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AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
Posted - 2010.12.16 00:47:00 - [91]
 

Originally by: Donovans
Former max learning skills player reporting in once again.

Ccp, this short video kind of summarizes my sentiments about this patch and the relevant developer blog :

This way



I was thinking more along these lines (applies to just about any CCP employee) Dorfman

Dr Zom
Posted - 2010.12.16 01:47:00 - [92]
 

Originally by: Dr Zom
Has anyone else noticed that wallet entries for today have no time associated with them, just the date? This was not in the patchnotes.

Whatever the issue was, new entries have a time again. The entries I mentioned before are still timeless, but new ones are back to normal.

Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
Posted - 2010.12.16 02:50:00 - [93]
 

Edited by: Diomedes Calypso on 16/12/2010 04:25:27
Originally by: AkJon Ferguson
Originally by: Miss Pristine
answer this pls

I have a remap that will be available on Jan 5. With the free remap they just gave us... Will this just reset the remap I will receive in Jan?

Meaning... If I use this remap, will it create a new countdown and my old one will go away? If I save the remap till the original was available, will I have 2 then?


Nothing happens on Jan 5 for you. You have one remap available now. When you use it you will start a 1-year timer for the next remap.

Yes, that's not fair. Anyone who just remapped before the patch is laughing. Anyone who is due for a new remap in the next few days or weeks got very little out of the deal. CCP's primary corporate value is incompetence. Oh well. Enjoy EVE before they finally succeed at breaking its tank.


(if its true... if not the tension could have been saved with a more clear explanation in the op)This is complete bs

My main character that needs the remaps later next year and has one coming up in march at the end of the queue for the current spec gets nothing

People who happened to have a remap available got another one and something of real value (and other stuff in between).

Give everyone a remap on their orignial aniversary that would stack upn the one just made available.

Announce that players can use the peititon system to do this and somehow give players a record of their original availablity date and the thing would be solved easily enough. (a bunch of peitions spread out throughout the next year..and only in the numbers of people who cared to bother or didn't have a remap available for it to stack upon... a much smaller subset of all the characters out there so it wouldn't be a huge burden on customer service)




qaz zaq
Posted - 2010.12.16 03:33:00 - [94]
 

Overall a good upgrade. I am curious if the people complaining about losing 32 sp/hour are the same ones that were telling the maxed players who were going to lose 72 sp/hr to shut up and grow a pair, and that it would be 8 years before this or that.... lmao. So, they didn't care about me and others losing 72 sp/hour, but they are crying themselves over a 32 sp/hour... lmao

Tesla Grass
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.12.16 05:26:00 - [95]
 

After spending all day working through skill plans and such, I have only found myself more and more frustrated.
CCP have not given us an "extra" remap, just the ability to remap right now instead of waiting for the time it was due. I had spent hours working out a skills path to get an end goal of what I wanted and had not planned on remapping till Sept next year. It now appears that because I had the presence of mind to work out what I wanted to do a year in advance and CCP could not, that this places me in the position that this "extra" remap is TOTALLY pointless.
By my reckoning the only way to make use of the "extra" remap is to cut my current plan short, train for something totally different and pick up where I have left off in years time.
And I am not even close to being the most ripped off, those that would have had remap's available in the next month or so get the abiltiy to what! Remap a couple of days or weeks before they could of anyway. I am sorry CCP but this, although I would never stop my subscription because of it, is mindlessly unfair to those that can plan ahead, and a massive advantage to those that cannot.
grass

(bring back T'Amber for CSM)

Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
Posted - 2010.12.16 05:49:00 - [96]
 

Originally by: Tesla Grass
After spending all day working through skill plans and such, I have only found myself more and more frustrated.
CCP have not given us an "extra" remap, just the ability to remap right now instead of waiting for the time it was due. I had spent hours working out a skills path to get an end goal of what I wanted and had not planned on remapping till Sept next year. It now appears that because I had the presence of mind to work out what I wanted to do a year in advance and CCP could not, that this places me in the position that this "extra" remap is TOTALLY pointless.
By my reckoning the only way to make use of the "extra" remap is to cut my current plan short, train for something totally different and pick up where I have left off in years time.
And I am not even close to being the most ripped off, those that would have had remap's available in the next month or so get the abiltiy to what! Remap a couple of days or weeks before they could of anyway. I am sorry CCP but this, although I would never stop my subscription because of it, is mindlessly unfair to those that can plan ahead, and a massive advantage to those that cannot.
grass

(bring back T'Amber for CSM)


If they don't fix this I'm going to be bringing it up for months and months as an example of a lack of commitment to excellence.

I'm sure that the developeres didn't say to themselves "hey.. it would be a good game dynamic if we made it so people who had a remap available got another one stacked on top and lets make it so people who who planned ahead and happened to be well through their 12 month timer get no benefit at all "

No.. if so... its clearly an example of lazieness. It would have been a bother or another thing someone had to code and if they didn't have time it would have been too much care to record the timer date and assure people they could petition later to get one added to their account at that point in the future.

Either they've got a commitment to excellence or they don't.

I hope they still have that commitment and just made an ommision in communication that they can take care of soon.

white kight
Helljumpers
White Noise.
Posted - 2010.12.16 06:01:00 - [97]
 

Edited by: white kight on 16/12/2010 06:03:37
Will we get some more SP to allocate to refund us for the fact that on a patch you decided to stagger the release on to make sure it works, you have to create another long downtime to actually fix it?

Edit: Also supporting the post above. The "extra" remap does screw over those with the foresight to plan their skillqueue and their remaps in advance. Give us one FREE remap!!!

KaiserSoze434
Posted - 2010.12.16 08:07:00 - [98]
 

Overall went very smoothly. The only issue I'm noticing is I'm getting bit of slowdown and "rubber banding" post patch. Tried everything I can think of to fix (repair utility, etc) and can't seem to workaround on my end. I am not in a populated system by any stretch, J112558, so it can't be a population issue.

foksieloy
Minmatar
Rockets ponies and rainbows
Posted - 2010.12.16 11:01:00 - [99]
 

So when do I get a free remap?

All I got was my remap timer moved to yesterday, allowing me to remap even though I do not plan to do so for the next two years, making it utterly useless.

Joss56
Gallente
Unleashed' Fury
Posted - 2010.12.16 11:47:00 - [100]
 

Originally by: Crakers
Edited by: Crakers on 15/12/2010 23:09:44
Why should players that did learning skills be penalised for learning/traing skills that others didnt...


For theyre arrogance first.

But it isn't the case so, wait 8 years for tears.

Thaught Eve community was mature but when i read this kind of post i relay think that i'm dealing with 8 years old kids whining for sugar.

Lemming Alpha1dash1
Lemmings Online
Posted - 2010.12.16 11:57:00 - [101]
 

With this patch eve has made a smart financial decision.

after a new player has been attracted to this game the possibility for him/her staying
in eve has increased coz more options will we opened faster with new higher attributes.

even vs the older vets, ccp insures insures subscription longevity because most of those players have
invested alot of time into lvl4 and lvl5 tier 2 learning skills.
They now have to stay in eve longer to compensate that lose,
and reimbursing those sp's to put into other skills is a drop in the bucket.

hope they have developed a thick skin after I think many many nerf's towards their toys and now their attributes ugh

This patch will have great game altering changes I'm thinking newbies in tackle frigates will be in ceptors in no time,
that requires more pilots to start fitting heavy neuts to those bs's (or warpcore stabs lol)
BC's pilots will hit and tank even harder sooner too (lvl5 bc used to be a long haul)
Low sec will be an even more dangerous place to fly in (still hope to see fail fits tbh;)

I LIKE IT CCP ! ugh

KSbrain
Krait Corp
Fidelas Constans
Posted - 2010.12.16 12:29:00 - [102]
 

Could someone pleas tell me how it is fare that if you had a remap available yesterday you would have 2 now and if your remaps comes available today you will still have 1...

how is this not giving ppl with that just have there remap available a advantage over ppl that are getting it soon


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