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CCP Stillman

Posted - 2010.12.12 21:28:00 - [61]
 

Originally by: haarlowe
Q: Come December 14th, if a character is inactive, do they still get their skill points back to use upon reactivation?

A:

Every single character gets their SP back, active or not Smile

Qrtayl
Posted - 2010.12.12 21:31:00 - [62]
 

Originally by: CCP Zymurgist

Q: *Your question here*
A:

With the extra attribute points naturally come questions of distributing them. Some of us will be waiting a long time for a remap. It would make sense to allow us to distribute those points and not have to wait for several months for a remap if we recently did one. Particularly since we did not know to wait on a remap, that a major change was coming.
So...people are asking, did I miss the post where you addressed that concern?

Kyle Reel
Gallente
Posted - 2010.12.12 21:34:00 - [63]
 

Originally by: CCP Zymurgist

Q: *Your question here*
A:

Q: What... is your name?
Q: What... is your quest?
Q: What... is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?

Matek Sorak
Posted - 2010.12.12 21:40:00 - [64]
 

Q: Will the max possible value for attribute (except Chari be lowered to 32 from 33?
A:

Cornwalace
Posted - 2010.12.12 21:40:00 - [65]
 

Originally by: CCP Stillman
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
Originally by: Cornwalace
Q: If I were to purchase the Commissioned Officer Edition from a store, do we still have access to the Cerebral Accelerator towards any new account/character we may decide to create, since it is a sort of "new player learning speed bonus"?
A:

Q: Would utilizing the Cerebral Accelerator be the equivalent of using the new player learning speed bonus for those of us with new accounts (or wanting to start new accounts)?
A:

Q:What other "Miscellaneous other cleanup tasks will be performed that are not very interesting" regarding the learning skills are happening?
A:


Confused


Implants are not being changed because they are not learning skills Laughing

I also have no idea about those miscellaneous other cleanup tasks but I'll see if I can find someone to answer that for you.


Why hallo there,

The miscellaneous part refers to following items, but are not limited to:
1. All mentions of learning skills removed from tutorials, evelopedia, other text in the client
2. All complexes that required skills to activate gates, no longer requires those
3. Changing of the name and description of the static data for learning skills, as we can't complete remove them quite yet

As for the Cerebral Accelerator, we're not changing anything in regards to it, and it will continue to be given to players who buys the new sexy box, and anybody using it as of Tuesday will not experience any problems from using it. Smile


Just wanted to thank y'all for answering my questions! Good luck

Guinness Hooker
Posted - 2010.12.12 21:41:00 - [66]
 

Originally by: Matek Sorak
Q: Will the max possible value for attribute (except Chari be lowered to 32 from 33?
A:

yep you will never see 33 again

Cornwalace
Posted - 2010.12.12 21:43:00 - [67]
 

[b]Q: What is the meaning of life?
A:

Jeff Geoff
Gallente
Reprocity
Posted - 2010.12.12 21:45:00 - [68]
 

I've spent a lot of time with 4 toons (not main accounts - two main account toons already developed) training up learning skills to facilitate speedy learning of trade skills, and buying skill implants - I'm a trader in the main - to attempt to achieve tycoon IV in all accounts, aim being to dominate all possible 0.0 markets and all of Empire in those commodities I deal in.
I'm not sure what u r up to but it seems I have wasted a lot of time. I'm not happy, I could have trained these guys to fly dreads?
But then Eve probably is a total waste of time, sigh.
Sigh.
Timewaster Jeff

Boinz
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2010.12.12 21:47:00 - [69]
 

Q: In the patchnotes for the upcoming patch, this little tease is slipped in:
Quote:
# Neural Remap window overhaul * Our UI designers and programmers were in holiday mood, and overhauled the Neural Remap window, making it much more intuitive. Why not check it out and see if any other gifts await you there!


What does it mean?

A:

Palovana
Caldari
Inner Fire Inc.
Posted - 2010.12.12 21:58:00 - [70]
 

Originally by: Boinz
Q: In the patchnotes for the upcoming patch, this little tease is slipped in:
Quote:
# Neural Remap window overhaul * Our UI designers and programmers were in holiday mood, and overhauled the Neural Remap window, making it much more intuitive. Why not check it out and see if any other gifts await you there!


What does it mean?

A:


I haven't been able to find anything on SiSi. Unless they're not putting it there and saving it for Tuesday on TQ?

smoopmeister
Pew Pew Patrol
Posted - 2010.12.12 22:04:00 - [71]
 

Originally by: Jeff Geoff
I've spent a lot of time with 4 toons (not main accounts - two main account toons already developed) training up learning skills to facilitate speedy learning of trade skills, and buying skill implants - I'm a trader in the main - to attempt to achieve tycoon IV in all accounts, aim being to dominate all possible 0.0 markets and all of Empire in those commodities I deal in.
I'm not sure what u r up to but it seems I have wasted a lot of time. I'm not happy, I could have trained these guys to fly dreads?
But then Eve probably is a total waste of time, sigh.
Sigh.
Timewaster Jeff
you've not wasted any time, every single SP trained in learning will be given back to distribute as you see fit. you implants will still give their same bonnus, your base skill points will increase to 17 from 5.
you can train that dread you've always wanted.

CCP Zymurgist


Gallente
C C P
Posted - 2010.12.12 22:07:00 - [72]
 

Originally by: Cornwalace
Q: What is the meaning of life?
A:



What is 6 times 7?

Ervol Libra
Amarr
Pinky and the Brain corp
Posted - 2010.12.12 22:09:00 - [73]
 

Q: Will the neural remap counters be reset?


Galen Kamari
Gallente
Pelican.
Atlas.
Posted - 2010.12.12 22:22:00 - [74]
 

Q: Will the day ever come when people will read a thread before asking questions already answered in it?
A:

Mike deVoid
Firebird Squadron
Terra-Incognita
Posted - 2010.12.12 22:45:00 - [75]
 

Edited by: Mike deVoid on 12/12/2010 22:45:32
Thought I'd post this as someone was asking about training speed

Some quick number crunching for everyone curious.

Present (5/5 learnings +5 implants):
Maximum attainable effective attribute value (primary): 33pt.
Maximum attainable effective attribute value (secondary): 26.4pt.
Maximum effective learning speed, thus: 2772 SP/hour.

Present (5/4 learnings +5 implants):
Maximum attainable effective attribute value (primary): 31.9pt.
Maximum attainable effective attribute value (secondary): 25.3pt.
Maximum effective learning speed, thus: 2673 SP/hour.

Future ([bright or not] +5 implants):
Maximum attainable effective attribute value (primary): 32pt.
Maximum attainable effective attribute value (secondary): 26pt.
Maximum effective learning speed, thus: 2700 SP/hour.

So *if* you have trained to 5/5 then your maximum possible rate drop by 72 sp/hr at most as this assumes you wear your +5 implants all the time. Because of the 5.376,000 SP reimbursement you won't feel any nerf for a minimum of just over 8.5 years. That figure drops by about 1 year for each Advanced Learning you only put to lvl 4.

For 5/4 and below, it's a boost.

Desparo
Posted - 2010.12.12 22:47:00 - [76]
 

Q: How does one nominate this forum topic for most useful replies from CCP?

That's a compliment in case anyone who asked questions that were already answered in the initial posting read this and can't figure it out.

So Sensational
Ministry of War
Posted - 2010.12.12 22:48:00 - [77]
 

Edited by: So Sensational on 12/12/2010 22:48:39
Originally by: Galen Kamari
Q: Will the day ever come when people will read a thread before asking questions already answered in it?
A: No, people are ****ing stupid.


TSX01
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2010.12.12 23:00:00 - [78]
 

Q: Currently I have already remaped my attributes, so after Dec 14 will all my attribute became 20/20/20/20/19? Or will it add attributes depends on my learning skill that have not been trained, and add to each corresponding category on top of my current remap status?

Nyx's Darkness
Posted - 2010.12.12 23:00:00 - [79]
 

Originally by: Mike deVoid
.
Maximum effective learning speed, thus: 2700 SP/hour.

So *if* you have trained to 5/5 then your maximum possible rate drop by 72 sp/hr at most as this assumes you wear your +5 implants all the time. Because of the 5.376,000 SP reimbursement you won't feel any nerf for a minimum of just over 8.5 years. That figure drops by about 1 year for each Advanced Learning you only put to lvl 4.

For 5/4 and below, it's a boost.


you see the nerf straight away, my next year plan jumpped by 1 week. i understand that the learning sp i can move, but im not getting free sp's i already have it and from now on everything i train for is slower. dress it up as you wish, but it is not nerf free

Ryusoath Orillian
INDUSTIENCE
Posted - 2010.12.12 23:07:00 - [80]
 

it disgusts me that the question has been asked multiple times yet ccp ignores it.

Q: what the **** are you doing nerfing peoples training time by 72sp/h?

the very people dedicated enough to have 5/5 and +5 implants
are the ones getting shafted.

you have answered the stupid pointless 'joke' questions now answer the most important ****ing question.

answer the ****ing question.

typical ccp bull****.

also for those too stupid to figure it out we are getting a free remap. i will bet 1 billion isk we do.

Trina Carmen
Posted - 2010.12.12 23:14:00 - [81]
 

I'm scared!!

Schmacos tryne
Posted - 2010.12.12 23:15:00 - [82]
 

Ranting removed. Please try to post constructively. Spitfire

Trina Carmen
Posted - 2010.12.12 23:22:00 - [83]
 

so in 8 years from now when the diff between the sp you get back and the sp you lose an hours catches up you should be to uber to care.....no?

Ryusoath Orillian
INDUSTIENCE
Posted - 2010.12.12 23:23:00 - [84]
 

Please refrain from personal attacks. Spitfire

Hooligan Tool
Awww Diddums..
Posted - 2010.12.12 23:25:00 - [85]
 

Edited by: Hooligan Tool on 12/12/2010 23:27:04
Originally by: TSX01
Q: Currently I have already remaped my attributes, so after Dec 14 will all my attribute became 20/20/20/20/19? Or will it add attributes depends on my learning skill that have not been trained, and add to each corresponding category on top of my current remap status?

I'm not a dev, but from what I understand...

Your remap will stay the same. Whatever your base attributes are now, they simply add 12 to them.

Example:

Before:
INT 5 +4 remap +9 Learnings +4 Implant x1.1 Learning5 = 24.2
PER 5 +3 remap +9 Learnings +4 Implant x1.1 Learning5 = 23.1
CHA 5 0 remap +9 Learnings +4 Implant x1.1 Learning5 = 19.8
WIL 5 +3 remap +9 Learnings +4 Implant x1.1 Learning5 = 23.1
MEM 5 +4 remap +9 Learnings +4 Implant x1.1 Learning5 = 24.2

After:
INT 17 +4 remap +4 Implant = 25
PER 17 +3 remap +4 Implant = 24
CHA 17 0 remap +4 Implant = 21
WIL 17 +3 remap +4 Implant = 24
MEM 17 +4 remap +4 Implant = 25

For those old characters that had a low base attribute of 3 (and chose not to remap) they get to keep that (it would be 15 instead of 17), but still cannot remap.

Again, this is just what I understand the situation to be, so don't crucify me if I'm wrong...

Trina Carmen
Posted - 2010.12.12 23:26:00 - [86]
 

honestly this is a good change for 99% of eve player's and will improve the new player base why don't you get over yourself and look at the big picture.

Huijgen
Amarr
Organized-Chaos
Posted - 2010.12.12 23:27:00 - [87]
 

Thx CCP for this nice xmass present.Very HappyVery Happy

Trina Carmen
Posted - 2010.12.12 23:28:00 - [88]
 

Edited by: Trina Carmen on 12/12/2010 23:28:54
I think schm is gonna cry....lol

Schmacos tryne
Posted - 2010.12.12 23:29:00 - [89]
 

Inappropriate content removed. Spitfire

Xessej
Posted - 2010.12.12 23:30:00 - [90]
 

Originally by: Schmacos tryne
Ranting removed. Please try to post constructively. Spitfire



Contact CCP in June 2019. That's when the sp reimbursement will fall behind the 72 sp/hour difference. I'm sure they'll be happy to do something for you then.


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