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DJWiggles
Gallente
Eve Radio Corporation
Posted - 2010.12.16 21:42:00 - [271]
 

Originally by: Bel Rigean
Edited by: Bel Rigean on 13/12/2010 16:20:09
Originally by: DJWiggles
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist


Q: *Your question here*
A:


Can I have a Pony?

Love and kisses..

Wiggles


FOR PONY!!!


FOR GREAT JUSTICE!!! I want a sp pony

Nightwing
Posted - 2010.12.16 22:56:00 - [272]
 

Edited by: Nightwing on 16/12/2010 22:59:06

Bux Naked
Stained Sheets
Posted - 2010.12.17 04:59:00 - [273]
 

Originally by: Pesets
They have already implemented a "bonus remap" mechanic for new characters. I'm not necessarily saying they screwed this up, i'm just asking to be sure.

Before the patch, my normal remap was due to be available in a few months. Now i have one. My question is, if i remap now, will i still get another remap in a few months, or will i need to wait for a whole another year? It's kinda hard to tell from the attributes screen, it just says i have one right now.


I, too, have the same question. My remap wasn't going to come back until April. Now it says I have one. That's all fine and dandy, but I was hoping for an extra remap so that I could use up the free one so by the time April comes, all of my leadership skills would be trained and I could go back to combat training. But on the other hand I have several friends who said they now have 3 remaps.....wtf? Can we get an official response about this from someone at CCP?

Corran Do'Urden
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2010.12.17 07:38:00 - [274]
 

Same here, I had a remap coming in 2 months but now it's been reset, I used it only to have my timer reset to today. Completely *******s compared to people who had a remap just getting another and not having their current timer reset.

Syn Callibri
Minmatar
21st Eridani Lighthorse
Posted - 2010.12.17 19:22:00 - [275]
 

Interesting...I had a remap due next June...used the free one (from last patch) and now my time reset...WTF?


Boogie Bobby
Posted - 2010.12.17 20:57:00 - [276]
 

The remap is only +1 if you had one available already.

If your remap was on a cooldown on the 15th you got the cooldown reset and a remap available.

For me personally I had a character whose cooldown would have expired today so in that case the freebie was a dud, but my 6 other characters who now have 2 came out ahead for sure. You will be on the 12 month timer again if you use the remap.

It's bad luck, stop complaining, you're not entitled to anything.


Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
Posted - 2010.12.17 21:27:00 - [277]
 

Could you please do the courtesy of altering the Will I get a free remap to "

No.. not all players will get a free remap. Some will only have their remap date moved up in case they for some reason cared to change their attributes before the time they had intitally planned their skill training for.

I can get around to living with the uneven treatment but I'm going to get upset every time I see a lie repeated.

Bhattran
Posted - 2010.12.18 06:08:00 - [278]
 

Glorious thanks to you CCP Zymurgist for being so diligent in maintaining this thread and a pox on all of you who can't be bothered to read the FAQ or are just ungrateful because you didn't make out with multiple remaps like others who've NEVER remapped or were ALREADY sitting on an available remap, hence making out with more than 1 available remap.

Pesets
The Hunt Club
Posted - 2010.12.22 08:09:00 - [279]
 

Well,

Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
Q:Will I get a free remap?
A: Yes, Merry Christmas Very Happy


Thing is, some of us didn't get a free remap. We got a remap ahead of the time, but it's not free because it comes at the expense of the remap we were supposed to get later (months or days, depending on the character). Whereas people who had at least one remap aren't losing out on anything because, well, they didn't have any additional remaps coming anyways.

And the whole argument that they "deserved" an extra remap is bull. If they didn't remap, it's because they had a good reason (aside from oldskool Achuras who just want to stay oldskool for the heck of it). Maybe the only skills left to train for them are, say, Perc/Will ones, and there was just no point remapping to something else for the whole year (but quite a few skills that are worth remapping for a month or two). Maybe their training plan was simply longer than a year, so they remapped, trained for a year, got the extra remap, and just happened to be finishing up the skills they wanted when the bonus hit.

For example, i made sure to train all the Int-primary skills i wanted before remapping from Perc/Int to Perc/Will. Had they done this a few months back, i'd have had two remaps right now. As it stands, i just got my remap ahead of the time, which is of no use whatsoever because i had a plan up to and past my normal remap date anyways (and not much to remap for, if that remap lasts for the whole year). Basically, some got lucky, some didn't. Which is fine when it happens by itself as part of the game, but not when CCP decides to just randomly reward some players and not the others.

Again, someone whose remap timer finished one seconds before the patch got two remaps, someone whose remap timer finished one second after the patch got only one. That seems pretty obviously messed up to me. And there's a very obvious way to fix it (anyone who remapped less than a year before the patch should get an extra remap whenever they were supposed to, even if they already got another one somehow). And the faster they fix it, the fewer people will be at all affected by this.

But apparently they'd rather fall back to the usual "what you gonna do" attitude. I guess the whole "dedication to excellence" thing was just for one year, and that year is up...

Dr Karsun
Gallente
Coffee Lovers Brewing Club
Posted - 2010.12.22 10:51:00 - [280]
 

I'm writing to protest against the way the free remap was given to us. For some of us who were near the next remap (like me), we got a small part of a remap. I only had 2 or 3 months left to my next remap, not an entire free remap.

Because of that I'd kindly ask CCP to implement something that it would actually be a gift remap, a full remap for everyone, not just a semi-full remap. Make the clock go further, so that in the 3 months I will get my normal remap, but the one we got now stays as a REAL gift!

Kimiko Ayasi
Nepture Endeavours
Posted - 2010.12.27 23:23:00 - [281]
 

Edited by: Kimiko Ayasi on 27/12/2010 23:25:57
A question if you don't mind.

Some of the clone types are:
Pi: 54,600,000 skill points
Rho: 71,000,000 skill points

Let's say I have 53,000,000 allocated skill points PLUS 5,000,000 unallocated ones from learning kills. If I purchase the Pi clone and then get podded, will my unallocated skill points be affected in any way?

Is there any way to "loose" them without allocating?

Thank you.

Kimiko Ayasi
Nepture Endeavours
Posted - 2010.12.27 23:43:00 - [282]
 

Went to the test server, podded myself, didn't update clone and podded again. Lost some skill points as expected but the undistributed pool was untouched.

Syn Callibri
Minmatar
21st Eridani Lighthorse
Posted - 2010.12.28 19:44:00 - [283]
 

Originally by: Dr Karsun
I'm writing to protest against the way the free remap was given to us. For some of us who were near the next remap (like me), we got a small part of a remap. I only had 2 or 3 months left to my next remap, not an entire free remap.

Because of that I'd kindly ask CCP to implement something that it would actually be a gift remap, a full remap for everyone, not just a semi-full remap. Make the clock go further, so that in the 3 months I will get my normal remap, but the one we got now stays as a REAL gift!


QFT.


Roq'Letosands
Posted - 2010.12.29 01:41:00 - [284]
 

I was considering doing a remap, but I have "-2" in the unassigned attributes part (that's a negative 2).

I am assuming I am going to have to bring my attributes down to the same assignable number as everyone else that does a remap now?

Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
Posted - 2010.12.29 22:37:00 - [285]
 

I think we should bring this all up again in General Discussion next week when the developers get back from vacation and the decision makers can conference to decide to correct the fairly major difference in player treatment. It's worth about 300 million isk, is wide spread (10s of thousands affected) and it is correctible.

I'll document that in a concise post, with following wall of text supports in additional posts and it should get linked on corporate forums to let people understand how they are getting the shaft (most people still think they'll get their remap on the timer anniversary as they should stacked upon the "free" remap)

I also have come to understand how I think the mistake was made...and yes it was a mistake.

What should have happened was a "reset" of everyone's timers... which would mean that people with existing remaps wouldn't have gotten anything just like most people with timers going would get very little.

If you remap, you of course don't want to remap right away...thats why you mapped in the first place. If you wer smart, (and most of us are) if you have a 1 year timer, you make a training plan for that year and map accordingly.. if the timere were shorter you would have planned differently and mapped differently.

If we had known in advance that the timer would be reset in December, we could have planned for that.. may have made remaps and training queues in the months ahead differently. A "surprise" remap is of verry little benefit in all but very specialized cases.

Some of those cases did deserve a timer reset because the major shift in the learning skills really could have unfairly affected players who had planned a year to optomize training of those skills for a large portion of it. A reset would have solved that problem, bailed out a few people who screwed up accidentaly for other reasons, and maybe got a few people a few months ahead who had pretty much finished the priority things they had mapped for 10 months before or something.. a very small benfit to a very small slice of players.

Giving a stacked remap (so you have 2 in hand) is of a large value because the mapping can be planned to train a focussed group of skills at such a higher rate that you can easily save 1 month over what would otherwise have been a 4 month plan if mapped in a fashion that makes sense with other major skll areas (specific areas that players a year or two ito their training might be dones, or leadership that have odd primary attributes and fewer skills in a way that a significant portion of maxiumum effectiveness can be achieved with about 5 million sp )

Lutz Major
Posted - 2011.01.11 14:28:00 - [286]
 

Just found it in the database dump:
Originally by: Learning Skill Book Descriptions
This is part of a set of debunked CONCORD self-help books that used to be very popular among capsuleers until independent researchers proved conclusively that they were largely rubbish.
+1 to description texts (again) Very Happy


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