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Tiger's Spirit
Caldari
Posted - 2010.12.16 08:05:00 - [301]
 

Edited by: Tiger''s Spirit on 16/12/2010 08:13:09
Originally by: Blind Searcher
Originally by: Consortium Agent
Originally by: Ranka Mei
You could not have trained at 2775 sp/h. Get your facts straight first; otherwise there's no point.


My mistake, it was 2772 SP/hr, not 2775 - frustration bears typos. So, 1,427,880 SP loss per annum, not 1,445,400. Anyway you shake it, it's damn near 1.5m SP lost per year.

Now my facts are straight(er). Now there's a point (since a whole 3 SP/hr made you have to post your 2 cents).

To clarify... under the old system it was possible to force your SP/hr higher by training learning to a specific level, cybernetics to 5 and then remapping to max attributes - then train learning skill(s) higher to force the addition of another point (or two) to an attribute. This is probably considered an exploit, however and is clearly remedied by this patch. For example:

Train a SOCT skill to l4, cyber to 5 and shove in +5 implants, remap to max the primary attributes of that SOCT skill and then train the SOCT skill to l5 would add another point (31 instead of 30) to that attribute, therefore making skills with that primary attribute train higher. Train the secondary SOCT to 5 and you've got 31 and 19 in primary and secondary respectively, giving you ~2772 sp/hr depending on the skill.

I realize that I'm probably one of a handful of people who ever figured this out and that this doesn't affect 99% of Eve... sadly... I'm still not happy about it though. Seriously. But... what can I do but grin and bear it... or ragequit lol.




But you did get 5.3m sp that you otherwise would not have had to put where you want. This equates to 3.5 years of training difference. So in 2014 you have the right to complain about your loss in training speed but who knows what will happen between now and then.

Edit: As far as new people training faster... Look on the bright side. They will hopefully train up some PVP skills sooner to add to the low sec adventure.


And ? but we losing our advantage against lazy and stupid players, who didnt want to learn 5/5.
That was yearly 25 days advantage. we got back those sp-s ? Ohhh.. But we lose much more, because we will losing every years over 1,5m+ SP. Oh i see the lazyness is a gift, what it is necessary to reward. LOL
Maybe next step will be for everyone have all lvl5 skills, for equality, or 1 guntype for everyone, not need just amarr or caldari players. We like Eve because his variety,but now everyone is same, because some players was too lazy or not too smart. It's a horrible path for future. Gift for lazyness and punisment for effort. And second, we now losing after patch 12 days learning time too in every year, with new stats, because we lost 1 attrib.
Nice, maybe we should be happy for this changes?

Jadwina Kerkova
Vita Mihi Mors Est
Posted - 2010.12.16 10:34:00 - [302]
 

Adapt and evolve or die crying.

Joss56
Gallente
Unleashed' Fury
Posted - 2010.12.16 11:39:00 - [303]
 

Quote:
We like Eve because his variety,but now everyone is same, because some players was too lazy or not too smart. It's a horrible path for future.


I've got a big list of useless things to train if you like to shat yourself Laughing

If you don't want you sp refunded pliz petition and send it to me because i will never be able to catch your total amount sp no matter how many hours I'll spend playing on top of you unless you stop training, and that is sad.

Confused

Edward Olmops
Posted - 2010.12.16 14:01:00 - [304]
 

Originally by: Guillame Herschel
Edited by: Guillame Herschel on 15/12/2010 22:47:24
Originally by: LeaMin
this is only a good change for all who was too lazy too skill all learnings to 5


How many people told you again and again that training advanced learning skills to level 5 was going to be a waste of time?

They were all right. You were wrong. Suck it up, crybaby. You were warned years ago, and you ignored it. You thought you knew better, but you didn't. Hardy-har-har to you. Have I made you cry yet?


You are wrong. She still has an advantage. Her SP total is higher than it would have been without training to all Lvl5.
Just that this advantage just stopped increasing over time.
No reason to cry either way.

Major Issue
Posted - 2010.12.16 14:05:00 - [305]
 

Originally by: Kya Nide
well, everyone is supposed to receive free remap.... so, what does this mean for those, who should receive normal remap a few days after Patch Deployement?
Does it mean I only receieved the remap a few days earlier, and when I will use this remap I have to wait another year for new remap?
Or does it mean i received an extra remap now, and i can use it without fear, because it did not influence the term of my "normal" remap? :)


I have posted the same question earlier, but did not get (or find Very Happy) a proper answer.

Normally I would have got the next remap in about 3 weeks. If I use the free one early, it would flunk my long-term plans if I had to wait another year after.

Has anyone WITHOUT a remap prior to this patch tried the free remap and can tell if the next remap is now scheduled according to the old plan or is it 12 months from now?

Tresie
Posted - 2010.12.16 16:09:00 - [306]
 

Originally by: Major Issue
Has anyone WITHOUT a remap prior to this patch tried the free remap and can tell if the next remap is now scheduled according to the old plan or is it 12 months from now?


Yes. I have, on an alt. And the timer resets as if it was an ordinary remap. Sadly.


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