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Sol Foundry
Posted - 2010.12.14 18:17:00 - [211]
 

Seriously guys, chill out a bit. No one is forcing you to like your Christmas presents, but can you at least try to not make the people who gave them to you feel like crap for doing so?

Honestly, It's embarrassing to read most of these posts.

CCP, in all sincerity, thank you for the lovely ship. I will cherish it for as long as the gankers will allow me to.

L'Howen Pendragon
Phoenix Industries
Posted - 2010.12.14 18:23:00 - [212]
 

Originally by: Sol Foundry
Seriously guys, chill out a bit. No one is forcing you to like your Christmas presents, but can you at least try to not make the people who gave them to you feel like crap for doing so?

Honestly, It's embarrassing to read most of these posts.

CCP, in all sincerity, thank you for the lovely ship. I will cherish it for as long as the gankers will allow me to.


CCP Knows exactly what type of people play this game... they know what sells and what is being played in the market as well as what is being flown. The ship offered is not one of those kinds of ships.

This ship looks like an idea that came about while drinking goldschlager... an interesting idea, but nothing that the average user could ever use. Hell give me a snowball launcher and I'll be happy.

devonii
Posted - 2010.12.14 18:46:00 - [213]
 

I did complain about the learning skills going away (not that they are going away, but "how" they are going away). This, on the other hand, is a GIFT. It's not a gift like learning skills where they are taking something away and giving you a replacement...it's a real gift. While I don't personally think the looks are stunning, I look forward to having it in my collection and spinning it my hangar at least once or twice.

CCP...my sincere thanks. (BTW, I REALLY, REALLY like the Zephyr..by far one of the coolest ships to spin.)

For those of you complaining about this...you can donate your ship to me. Feel free to contract this, and any other ship you would like to get rid of. I'm also open to meeting you at any high sec location for an open trade window.

:) Happy Holidays everyone!!!

Leon Gaff
Posted - 2010.12.14 18:47:00 - [214]
 

Free gift is nice, if it has any use.
If it just represents wasted manhours, then itīs a slap in the face.

Which is it, CCP?

Swidgen
Posted - 2010.12.14 22:12:00 - [215]
 

I consider both of these "gifts" to be a slap in the face.

BitterSidekick
Posted - 2010.12.14 23:00:00 - [216]
 

I really appreciate the gift, we pay for EvE, but some sort of gift is always nice. Its good that they give something.. for free.

David Eastwick
Caldari
Mnemonic Enterprises
Dark Matter Coalition
Posted - 2010.12.15 01:48:00 - [217]
 

well its now the 15th and still no sign of the ship?
can some one tell me what time zone UTC is in ? (GMT+1? -1? +6? -6?)

L'Howen Pendragon
Phoenix Industries
Posted - 2010.12.15 04:00:00 - [218]
 

Originally by: BitterSidekick
I really appreciate the gift, we pay for EvE, but some sort of gift is always nice. Its good that they give something.. for free.


If we pay for something, and get something the majority of us never will use, that's not a gift, that's a slap in the face.

Terrorform
Gallente
Posted - 2010.12.15 04:01:00 - [219]
 

Originally by: David Eastwick
well its now the 15th and still no sign of the ship?
can some one tell me what time zone UTC is in ? (GMT+1? -1? +6? -6?)


UTC = GMT

:)

Mayham Jack
Caldari
Posted - 2010.12.15 06:26:00 - [220]
 

Well to help you out if its 4 am Central TZ US then its 10 am UTC or other words eve time you can do the math to figure out in your TZ

Dorn Val
Posted - 2010.12.15 08:08:00 - [221]
 

Thanks for the ship CCP! The textures on the Noctis look great, and I'm looking forward to seeing what your designers have done with the Echelon!

One a similar note: Please turn your design team loose on the rest of the ships in the game -would really like to see more of them updated!

TheAccontant
Posted - 2010.12.15 10:23:00 - [222]
 

Originally by: David Eastwick
well its now the 15th and still no sign of the ship?
can some one tell me what time zone UTC is in ? (GMT+1? -1? +6? -6?)


You do realise you live on a globe, right? And that there places outside the USA?

Bree Azul
Posted - 2010.12.15 11:17:00 - [223]
 

Originally by: David Eastwick
well its now the 15th and still no sign of the ship?
can some one tell me what time zone UTC is in ? (GMT+1? -1? +6? -6?)


seriously? have you been playing more than a day its gmt and also "gametime" of eve. This question is answered every down time.

Aphrodite Skripalle
Galactic Defence Consortium
Posted - 2010.12.15 11:44:00 - [224]
 

Thanks for the nice looking ship.
I gonna put it to my collection.
Hopefully the hull will be of use in future ship types.

Winnabago Warrior
Posted - 2010.12.15 12:29:00 - [225]
 

Originally by: DJ DeLaMuerta
Its a nice ship and once again the Art team have done a super job however...

Its yet another free ship that will get very limited use but yet has taken as much time to design as if you were to add in a full combat, market bound ship.
We have had a lot of free ships in the last few years but few new additions to the line up and none to the standard T1 listings that have some glaring holes.

What about Tier 2&3&4 Destroyers, a ship class thats almost completely useless now we have a dedicated salvage ship.
What about Tier 3&4 Battlecruisers, probably the most popular class in eve and yet we have are sorely lacking in choice.
What about Tier 4 BS, think how much salivating and joy a new BS for each race would bring.
What about all the faction ships we are missing such as faction BC and Destroyers, that would add much more depth to the game instead of just the ones that have not been added to in many years.

While i love the gesture of all these free ships i would much rather the time was put into developing and expanding the regular ships we use every day. We have had so little changes/additions in recent years that things are getting quite stagnant and the addition of meaning full combat ships (particularity accessible T1 ones) would be so warmly received that i am surprised we have been left waiting so long tbh.

Thanks though tis a nice ship.




/signed

Joss56
Gallente
Unleashed' Fury
Posted - 2010.12.15 12:40:00 - [226]
 

Originally by: TheAccontantYou do realise you live on a globe, right? And that there places outside the USA?[/quote


This one goes to my sign Laughing

I will just add "/Uk" Laughing

Axel Strom
Posted - 2010.12.15 13:10:00 - [227]
 

Edited by: Axel Strom on 15/12/2010 13:13:06
Originally by: L'Howen Pendragon
CCP Knows exactly what type of people play this game...



Then they should know that Eve players in general don't want a ship they'll never use. Now, if it was shaped like a ***** most of us would probably be ecstatic...


...Actually, on that note CCP, could you please make a ship that really closely resembles a ***** so I don't have to listen to corpies going on about how other ships look like one when they really, really don't?

Anywhoo..... Yeah, while it's nice to get something for nothing, I don't mean to be horrible, but this ship does seem pretty pointless from what I can tell of it so far. The only use I'm likely to have for it is selling it to some mad collector for an extortionate price once gankers have blown up everyone else's Wink



BEWILDERED EDIT: Wow, ***** is censored on this site? Since when was that a profanity? What would you prefer I call it? Phallus? Membrum virile?

Joss56
Gallente
Unleashed' Fury
Posted - 2010.12.15 13:16:00 - [228]
 

Originally by: Sol Foundry
Seriously guys, chill out a bit. No one is forcing you to like your Christmas presents, but can you at least try to not make the people who gave them to you feel like crap for doing so?

Honestly, It's embarrassing to read most of these posts.


This

It seams Eve is a mature community, well, then some should take a look at "wow" forums, it's the same shame lvl 10years old "i want it nao!!"

Rawls Canardly
Special Forces Operation Detachment Delta
The 0rphanage
Posted - 2010.12.15 13:52:00 - [229]
 

Suggestion: Turn this model into a production item... off-racial combat ships would be spiffy :)
Perhaps as some sort of assault frigate with a bonus to tackle strength? (ie. +20% point strength per level of Assault Frigate, and a buff on whichever weapon type CONCORD tends to use)
CONCORD is notorious for being inescapable, after all.
and yes, it would require Assault Frigates to be trained up, making it a T2 boat. Perhaps something like this:
CONCORD "Ordination" class Assault Frigate (REQUIRES ASSAULT FRIGATES 5 to compensate for lack of racial frigate requirement)
Bonuses: 20% bonus to warp jammer strength per AF level, 7.5% bonus to hybrid turret damage per level (or whatever concord uses), 7.5% hybrid(whatever) turret tracking per level, 5% Hull resist per level (Yeah why not)
Highs-5 (turrets 3, missiles 2)This causes the ship to have steeper requirements to fly properly.
Mids-3 (standard MWD/Point/Web)
Lows-4 (either an armor tank or a gank fit, to fit either DPS or Solo roles)

enough powergrid/cpu to fit in the other assault frigs
T2 resists, of course. The mids and lows could of course be swapped, perhaps a second CONCORD assault frigate?

max rift
Posted - 2010.12.15 14:17:00 - [230]
 

Thanks CCP, i will stick this in my hangar with the other freebies in hope that one day i will have the only one and can then sell for billions, no wait trillions.

damn just had a horrid thought "what if everyone else thinks the same"

Max

Badaboom Badabing
Posted - 2010.12.15 14:26:00 - [231]
 

If its free does it matter?
You should be glad your getting owt cos half of you dont even deserve the steam off one of my dumps.
Why should they give you anything at all???
You all want some free uber ship?
This ones crap you say... then buy another type off the market with isk and stop being little girls crying over something in my eyes you dont even deserve in the first place.
Bit of appreciation is nice to show when ur getting something from a gesture of goodwill didnt your parents teach you how to behave?

Thankyou CCP! and Merry Christmas!


PyckenDame
Posted - 2010.12.15 14:29:00 - [232]
 

Edited by: PyckenDame on 15/12/2010 14:29:46
Contrary to many post I've seen in this thread, I do think CCP knows the average EVE player,...

We are hamsters. We like "having" stuff. And yes, I, as most of you, will not fly this ship. But then again I do not fly my hookbill, gila and all those other ships I wanted yet never flew. And even if we were to be given a nice pvp or uber carebear vessel, we still wouldn't fly it as we only get "1"

So, my sincere thanks CCP for adding a nice looking ship to my collection.

ps. we = most of us
pps. CCP, if we get snowballs this year, could you please also give us a fridge?

Capsuleer Newton
Amarr
Posted - 2010.12.15 14:34:00 - [233]
 

Originally by: Kateryne
Originally by: Aeo IV
I like new ships and free stuff, but I wish CCP wouldn't focus so much effort in one-of-and-useless ships.

This to be honest, as it sounds like it won't see much use outside of the new Sansha invasion mechanics, which aren't going to interest a majority of people anyway. How about something we could all use? Like a ship with bonuses to hacking, archaeology and scanning in general? A super-covert-ops frigate.


Twisted Evil ... or a laser crystal that do explosive and kinetic damage, or a missile that inflicts all damage type, an uber frig with a base resist of 90%.... or a turret-based weap that can insta-pop anything even concorde.... i want more... Twisted Evil

David Eastwick
Caldari
Mnemonic Enterprises
Dark Matter Coalition
Posted - 2010.12.15 15:25:00 - [234]
 

Originally by: TheAccontant
Originally by: David Eastwick
well its now the 15th and still no sign of the ship?
can some one tell me what time zone UTC is in ? (GMT+1? -1? +6? -6?)


You do realise you live on a globe, right? And that there places outside the USA?


Yes im aware theres other countrys, after all my arrogant little friend, i live in the UK this is where time is set Greenwich Mean Time GMT, however i have not come across UTC before so wanted to know what time zone it is in since when did not knowing and asking for information warrent a sarcastic remark like that? i suggest you dont read or reply to my threads or posts and we will get on great, same goes to people that thought his reply was funny.

to those that have advised me that UTC is the same as GMT thank you, not sure why they have created a timezone for eve and set it the same as GMT that kinda confuses people but then i guess eve is a universe of its own (im guessing its Universal Time Code or some such)

Croft Miner
Posted - 2010.12.15 15:33:00 - [235]
 

Yay, now let me play! :D

Arom Wraelt
Posted - 2010.12.15 15:47:00 - [236]
 

Edited by: Arom Wraelt on 15/12/2010 15:50:16
Shocked

Arom Wraelt
Posted - 2010.12.15 15:50:00 - [237]
 

Edited by: Arom Wraelt on 15/12/2010 15:51:07
Originally by: David Eastwick
Originally by: TheAccontant
Originally by: David Eastwick
well its now the 15th and still no sign of the ship?
can some one tell me what time zone UTC is in ? (GMT+1? -1? +6? -6?)


You do realise you live on a globe, right? And that there places outside the USA?


Yes im aware theres other countrys, after all my arrogant little friend, i live in the UK this is where time is set Greenwich Mean Time GMT, however i have not come across UTC before so wanted to know what time zone it is in since when did not knowing and asking for information warrent a sarcastic remark like that? i suggest you dont read or reply to my threads or posts and we will get on great, same goes to people that thought his reply was funny.

to those that have advised me that UTC is the same as GMT thank you, not sure why they have created a timezone for eve and set it the same as GMT that kinda confuses people but then i guess eve is a universe of its own (im guessing its Universal Time Code or some such)


Hi,


UTC is not a time zone made for eve, UTC is the time standard by which the world regulates clocks and time, which is not to be confused with GMT. Maybe this extract from Wikipedia will clarify this for you a bit more:

"Though there are scientific differences (explained below) between "Coordinated Universal Time" and the time standard known as Greenwich Mean Time (GMT) - in the very broadest sense as understood by non-scientists, "Coordinated Universal Time" in essence is Greenwich Mean Time (GMT). When times are listed as being "UTC" - this is de facto the equivalent of "GMT".

UTC is used mostly on the web for well, coordinating time around the world. It is also used in "Network Time Protocol" or NTP.

Now, back on topic... thanks for the purrdy new ship CCP! It's my favorite type of ship... FREE! Cool


Edit: Typos... ^_^

Prinz Panne
Posted - 2010.12.15 15:57:00 - [238]
 

This message is to all fellow pilots who donīt want to [have|use] their cristmas ships:

Please contract them to this character in exchange for an isk value of up to 100000 (0 isk is greatly appreciated and will be rewarded with a free and friendly christmas compliment - a rare and valuable thing in the harsh world we live in).

Phreakinout
Posted - 2010.12.15 16:36:00 - [239]
 

Edited by: Phreakinout on 15/12/2010 16:54:24
Wow peeps, hate to be your parents ya lil ingrates! It's free! did u whine this much over the snowballs and launchers? Oh crap, ya you did.... anyhoo... seriously though, as a fellow hamster this is just fun to have and flip around in. Besides, you have no idea if this ship may come in use later, such as the Sansha ship for codebreaking, in some update/release when u lil whiners will then complain that you can't do that part of the story or w/e cuz you didn't train the skill. CCP knows their players well and listens well. And this may in fact be a pre-emptive strike to gen pop stupidity. But alas... that very stupidity is what causes the current whining. Either way - a) free b)pretty/shiny c) if it wasn't this you'd whine abpout something else.

That being said - tyvm CCP for giving something when nothing needed to be. Some of us appreciate a gesture at least (though i have kinda grown found of the bulbuous lil thing)

Quote:
PyckenDame on 15/12/2010 14:29:46
Contrary to many post I've seen in this thread, I do think CCP knows the average EVE player,...

We are hamsters. We like "having" stuff.

pps. CCP, if we get snowballs this year, could you please also give us a fridge?


um yeah... melted snowballs from last year don't even make a nice splat on a hull :P a lil dorm fridge that can be placed in our domiciles this summer with Incarna..that'd be sweet! Quafe n strippers for all, and for all a good nite!

L'Howen Pendragon
Phoenix Industries
Posted - 2010.12.15 19:12:00 - [240]
 

Originally by: Axel Strom
Edited by: Axel Strom on 15/12/2010 13:13:06
Originally by: L'Howen Pendragon
CCP Knows exactly what type of people play this game...



Then they should know that Eve players in general don't want a ship they'll never use. Now, if it was shaped like a ***** most of us would probably be ecstatic...


...Actually, on that note CCP, could you please make a ship that really closely resembles a ***** so I don't have to listen to corpies going on about how other ships look like one when they really, really don't?

Anywhoo..... Yeah, while it's nice to get something for nothing, I don't mean to be horrible, but this ship does seem pretty pointless from what I can tell of it so far. The only use I'm likely to have for it is selling it to some mad collector for an extortionate price once gankers have blown up everyone else's Wink



BEWILDERED EDIT: Wow, ***** is censored on this site? Since when was that a profanity? What would you prefer I call it? Phallus? Membrum virile?


Honestly I'd be ****ed off if I got a ship that looked like anything and is as useless as this ship is. It is a specialty ship that can't be used except for one case. One medium slot, and that's it... really? Just give me a shuttle with a medium slot and you got the same thing.

I pay for a year up front... I expect specific things, like functionality out of my ships.

Also, with a Christmas gift you don't like, you normally will get a gift receipt and you'll be able to return the gift and get what you really wanted. Give me 1/2 a bill and I'll be happy... give me a ship I'll never use in a system that any ship that doesn't have a strong defense gets popped in a heartbeat, then you'll see why I don't want this ship or need it.

Also has anyone even read the description of the ship and the hacking unit? Talk about being non-descriptive...


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