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zandayus
Posted - 2010.12.11 13:57:00 - [181]
 

would like to see all the other ship design concepts they had before they agreed on this one.just another to add to my hanagar collection.might take it out for for my Eve wallpaper collection.well back to mining asteriods........

L'Howen Pendragon
Phoenix Industries
Posted - 2010.12.11 14:47:00 - [182]
 

Originally by: 111kartel111
Edited by: 111kartel111 on 11/12/2010 13:41:50
Thank you CCP for a wounderful christmas present and I wish everyone there and everyone on these forums a merry christmas and a happy new year.Cool


PS: I would remind everyone that its not the value of the gift thats important its the thought that has the real meaning.Wink


There is a difference between a gift that is useful and another that is either a re-gift, refine fodder, or storage never to see space... CCP has created a niche ship that will be useless to 99% of the people in this game.

Rezard
Minmatar
Fornax Chemica
Posted - 2010.12.11 16:51:00 - [183]
 

Another useless ship, at least snowball caused a lot of fun, this is like opening your presents on xmas and seeing a bunch of clothes...

"Here, this t-shirt has a +5% bonus to doing your new chores I justc reated for you, good day sir!"


Izkhanilov
Epsilon Manufacturing
Posted - 2010.12.11 17:11:00 - [184]
 

Sweet Jesus it's hideous

Lone Provider
Posted - 2010.12.11 22:06:00 - [185]
 

---===::: REALLY!!! :::===---

Well done CCP, a massive FAIL! again, ffs!

Nice tease too, lets have a "create a starship contest"! Announce a winner, AND NOT USE WHEN IT WOULD HAVE BEEN AWESOME TO DO SO!

When will you actually give us a decent gift, do you guys really think about this or just leave it to one person who doesn't even play EvE?

KEEP IT!!!

Evil or Very MadEvil or Very MadEvil or Very Mad

Starfall Achura
Posted - 2010.12.11 22:42:00 - [186]
 

Oh for the love of Pete!!!!

Do you guys really think CCP is going to give every subscriber a ship that has stats that can meaningfully effect game play? This is just a little trinket to introduce an aspect of Incursion,(as the Primae was to PI) and at the same time give us a collectible gift.

Stop whining and be appreciative of the good material they produce, I am sure we will see a further incarnation of the Echelon in the coming months.

Merry X-mas

p.s. I hear WoW gives out little bears that follow you around, on special occasions... Rolling Eyes


L'Howen Pendragon
Phoenix Industries
Posted - 2010.12.11 23:19:00 - [187]
 

Originally by: Starfall Achura
Oh for the love of Pete!!!!

Do you guys really think CCP is going to give every subscriber a ship that has stats that can meaningfully effect game play? This is just a little trinket to introduce an aspect of Incursion,(as the Primae was to PI) and at the same time give us a collectible gift.

Stop whining and be appreciative of the good material they produce, I am sure we will see a further incarnation of the Echelon in the coming months.

Merry X-mas

p.s. I hear WoW gives out little bears that follow you around, on special occasions... Rolling Eyes




The ship is doing nothing to affect anything in Incursion, it brings nothing to the game at all. All it will be is a noob ship that will make the noobs feel all powerful till they realize they will loose it the first time they undock and bring it into low or nul sec.

They should make a ship that not everyone can fly out of the box with a one skill training to sit in it.

Give one of the new ships to the people, make it that they will receive one of the new ships depending on their race. Mim will receive the mim ship, gal will receive one of their own, etc... noobs will have something to work towards, those older characters will be able to use them, and choose to keep it or not.

Now that would be a Christmas present worth having. Not the ship they are offering.


Saderakh
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2010.12.12 00:16:00 - [188]
 

I checked out the vid shot of the ship. It looks cool. It does kinda remind me of a frog with one broken leg though, if u see from a good angle :D

Ranka Mei
Caldari
Posted - 2010.12.12 01:22:00 - [189]
 

If I may be so bold, while I can appreciate the idea behind the Echelon, and the Zephyr, for that matter, I find these rather, um, useless when they're just collector's items, and can't be built. You lose your shiny ship, you're done for, permanently.

So, personally, I rather welcome ships like the Noctis: ships that are buildable, and replacable.

Gant Grief
Posted - 2010.12.12 14:05:00 - [190]
 

Originally by: Ranka Mei
So, personally, I rather welcome ships like the Noctis: ships that are buildable, and replacable.


The Noctis isn't free :facepalm:

L'Howen Pendragon
Phoenix Industries
Posted - 2010.12.12 15:19:00 - [191]
 

Originally by: Gant Grief
Originally by: Ranka Mei
So, personally, I rather welcome ships like the Noctis: ships that are buildable, and replacable.


The Noctis isn't free :facepalm:


Thankfully.

Argus Kell
Gallente
Lost Enterprises...
SOLAR WING
Posted - 2010.12.12 17:27:00 - [192]
 

I've briefly come onto the forums recently and seen that no matter what conversation starts everybody just *****es about the game all the f***ing time. "we want gifts", "not that gift, thats useless", "theres bots everywhere, get rid of bots", "you're not doing enough to get rid of bots", "CCP want bots cos it makes them money", etc.

I just wish you all wouldn't be such an ungrateful bunch of ****s 24/7. You pay for the game 'as is'. Anything that is added through expansions, etc is bonus. If you don't like the game, stop paying for it. The reason you all criticise every single move this game makes and talk nonsense about it 'dying' all the time is because it isn't dying at all. Games that are actually dying have communities that scream about how amazing the game is and what can we do to save it.

Stop acting like a bunch of spoilt brats and start appreciating an effort that didn't have to be made at all.

Syekuda
Hell's Revenge
Posted - 2010.12.12 23:39:00 - [193]
 

so let me get this straight. CCP paid an employee or a team of employee so "create" or "design" (I call this puking if you ask me) a ship which will hang inside a hangar all it's life ?

Seriously, most hacking sites will have NPC's and if that's the case, that little frig won't be able to defend itself. Why in the hell would I use it...or undock it as a matter a fact ?

CCP, make it a combat frig at least which has the potential to defend itself against NPC cruisers at least. That way this frig could be used in hacking sites in high-sec...at the very least. If you ask me, make it a cruiser size and make sure it can defend itself against 1 battleship and a couple of battlecruisers.

Remember, your talking about Sansha and Concord here, it's not idiot faction. On 1 side they got the ability to anal you and on the other side, you got the ****ed off race (high electronic and superior technology) and yet.... you give us this..tiny frig which will be killed in 1 shot ?

go back to the drawing board please.

ps: it's so useless I want to gank it so hard in high-sec

ace234
Posted - 2010.12.13 00:12:00 - [194]
 

Edited by: ace234 on 13/12/2010 00:15:17
What the hell do u ppl want it's a "free" ship your getting

Garekell
Posted - 2010.12.13 04:13:00 - [195]
 

I want people to stop using 'text speech abbreviations' unless they are texting friends and not writing on a forum or other communications outside their cell phone world.


Originally by: ace234
Edited by: ace234 on 13/12/2010 00:15:17
What the hell do u ppl want it's a "free" ship your getting

Tergiminius
Binary Star
Posted - 2010.12.13 09:46:00 - [196]
 

Originally by: ace234
Edited by: ace234 on 13/12/2010 00:15:17
What the hell do u ppl want it's a "free" ship your getting


The point a lot of people here are trying to make is it's not a free ship, it took resources to design and implement, resources of dev time that could have been put to use getting stuff fixed in the game or worked on towards the incursion expansion. All these "free" items and "vanity" items we'll be getting in incarna are paid for using our monthly subscription fees.

Argus Kell
Gallente
Lost Enterprises...
SOLAR WING
Posted - 2010.12.13 10:16:00 - [197]
 

Originally by: Tergiminius
Originally by: ace234
Edited by: ace234 on 13/12/2010 00:15:17
What the hell do u ppl want it's a "free" ship your getting


The point a lot of people here are trying to make is it's not a free ship, it took resources to design and implement, resources of dev time that could have been put to use getting stuff fixed in the game or worked on towards the incursion expansion. All these "free" items and "vanity" items we'll be getting in incarna are paid for using our monthly subscription fees.


I understand what you're saying but you're wrong. The items you have NOW are paid for using your monthly subscription. The items you 'will' be getting are bonus. Your subscription is that you subscribe to the game 'as is'. Thats all you're entitled to. If you get bored of 'as is' you can quit but CCP don't owe you anything. This is a bonus on top of the bonus of Incarna etc.

Argus

Tergiminius
Binary Star
Posted - 2010.12.13 10:23:00 - [198]
 

I know nothing is owed but at the same time, all money paid in subs goes to pay their wages so whatever time is spent on bonus items has already been paid for with past subscription money. It's not like the devs come in unpaid and work on the stuff.

Argus Kell
Gallente
Lost Enterprises...
SOLAR WING
Posted - 2010.12.13 10:48:00 - [199]
 

Originally by: Tergiminius
I know nothing is owed but at the same time, all money paid in subs goes to pay their wages so whatever time is spent on bonus items has already been paid for with past subscription money. It's not like the devs come in unpaid and work on the stuff.


That’s like saying that because you pay for a service from McDonalds (those delicious burgers) and that money is used to pay their employees then we can all band together and tell them what burgers to make. How CCP spend their money is none of your business. The bonus products (including the multitude of decent free expansions) are an extra that they choose to make because it improves their business. If they choose to spend the money collected via subscriptions to their virtual world making holiday videos that they then post here as the game falls to pieces then that is their prerogative. At the end of the day, like any Christmas gift, if you don’t like it just suck it up, put on a polite smile and say thank you. The responses to this nice gesture in this thread are a look at peoples’ disgusting attitudes today. There’s no effort made to be civil about it and this kind of rudeness is just so unnecessary.

John Triphammer
Posted - 2010.12.13 13:39:00 - [200]
 

great design-very nice present! thank you ccp !!!! whats wrong with everybody? so many ppl whining and complaining?? hope santa forgets you for good this year. it doesnt fit in you personal gaming style? your gaming style is the one and only way the game is to be experienced? everybody else is a noob and looser? yeah-yeah.Rolling Eyes
looks like some folks lost the ability to have fun.
i´ll put this ship to good use and it will gain me some isk.not much maybe as the "big ones" do in one kill- but well, i have fun my own way.
Congrats to the designer who made this ship.excellent work.it adds a bit romanticism to this cold and harsh eve-universe.well done. Very Happy

L'Howen Pendragon
Phoenix Industries
Posted - 2010.12.13 15:21:00 - [201]
 

Edited by: L''Howen Pendragon on 13/12/2010 15:21:48
Originally by: Argus Kell
Originally by: Tergiminius
Originally by: ace234
Edited by: ace234 on 13/12/2010 00:15:17
What the hell do u ppl want it's a "free" ship your getting


The point a lot of people here are trying to make is it's not a free ship, it took resources to design and implement, resources of dev time that could have been put to use getting stuff fixed in the game or worked on towards the incursion expansion. All these "free" items and "vanity" items we'll be getting in incarna are paid for using our monthly subscription fees.


I understand what you're saying but you're wrong. The items you have NOW are paid for using your monthly subscription. The items you 'will' be getting are bonus. Your subscription is that you subscribe to the game 'as is'. Thats all you're entitled to. If you get bored of 'as is' you can quit but CCP don't owe you anything. This is a bonus on top of the bonus of Incarna etc.


Argus


If they paid someone out of pocket instead of with the money they get from our monthly/yearly fees then you are right... but since we know they aren't doing that, we have a right as subscribers to *****.

Lone Provider
Posted - 2010.12.13 15:57:00 - [202]
 

O.K! I may not sound appreciative, but......its useless to a majority of players!

Question-

For Christmas would you give a blind person a beautiful painting or a best seller book with no brail?
For Christmas would you give a deaf person the latest music cd?
For Christmas would you give a person with no legs or feet a pair of designer shoes?

NO!!!

You wouldn't because you realise it would be ******* USELESS for them!

And if you did it would just look like your taking the ****!

Thats the point!

Rolling Eyes

John Triphammer
Posted - 2010.12.13 18:33:00 - [203]
 

Edited by: John Triphammer on 13/12/2010 18:51:16
haha! that´s hillarious !! :D "i dont like my present-i got rights to have a better present... and so on !!" jeez!Very Happy

if its a niche-ship i´m glad ccp also takes care of minority players.like me. :) "99% of players dont need it". everybody here can drop an opinion- sure - but the point of this should be to say "thank you ccp for such a great game and the gift" - everything else just seems a little out of context here.imho.dunno if any ccp guy actually reads this- guess they are too busy- but i guess its not motivating for them to see this reactions.i´m glad i decided to subscribed to this game-provides me with (endless) hours of fun.if one day i have to criticize something i´ll do it in the proper forum.NOT in the Christmas-gift-comment section.My granny teached me that.Very Happy

DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2010.12.13 19:08:00 - [204]
 

CCP,

Thank you very much for all of the freebies received during the past few years. It's always nice to get an unexpected gift, especially for Christmas. Cool I like collecting 'Special' limited run items so this new ship is greatly appreciated.

Seems some of the players would have been much happier if they had received a Toy instead of a Tool they can use.

Now don't get me wrong, I really enjoyed having the Snowball Launcher fitted on a Rookie ship and having Snowball fights with friends or shooting Snowballs at other players ships while sitting at a Jump gate. I even shot some Snowballs at Concord ships. That's probably the only time players were allowed to engage Concord without any retribution or aggression from them. Very Happy

I'm sure there's a lot of players as well as myself that have been waiting for a random Cold Energy Wave to pass through the Eve Universe and refreeze the old melted Snowballs as well as resupply us with some more new frozen Snowballs.

Is there a small chance of Eve getting another 'White Christmas' this year?

Anyway, I like this new direction CCP is going with the game. I look forward to seeing more new and exciting changes as well as new items being introduced into Eve in the future.

Merry Christmas to everyone,

DMC

GeoBlue
Posted - 2010.12.13 21:26:00 - [205]
 

Well Merry Christmas and thanks CCP for a new ship. Now can you please explain how were to use this thing??

L'Howen Pendragon
Phoenix Industries
Posted - 2010.12.13 23:18:00 - [206]
 

Originally by: GeoBlue
Well Merry Christmas and thanks CCP for a new ship. Now can you please explain how were to use this thing??


The same way we have used the other niche ships... as something we store in our hangers and never to be seen by daylight again.

David Eastwick
Caldari
Mnemonic Enterprises
Dark Matter Coalition
Posted - 2010.12.14 00:30:00 - [207]
 

nice looking design thank you and merry christmass


Lochdanan
Posted - 2010.12.14 13:11:00 - [208]
 

so, has anyone actually recieved their ship yet? I'm on a full account, i logged in this morning, and there is no item redeem option anywhere that i could find. and yes, i looked at the blog page to make sure i was looking in the right area.

just curious as to if it has been released yet, or still too early in the day.

Roy Cambell
Posted - 2010.12.14 14:04:00 - [209]
 

Nothing yet for me atlest, cant wait :D

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
Posted - 2010.12.14 16:24:00 - [210]
 

If you went up to the average EVE player on the street and handed him a ten dollar bill, he'd spit on you and call you an idiot for not giving him a c-note.

What a bunch of ingrates. Rolling Eyes

I, for one, thank you CCP for another interesting gift this year.

Mr Epeen Cool


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