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Velios
M. Corp
M. PIRE
Posted - 2010.12.15 12:20:00 - [181]
 

I would urgently like to see some solid evidence from CCP about their stance on bot's and what exactly (if anything) they intend to do to eliminate their widespread use throughout the game.

It feels to me as if the very image and reputation of the game is being tarnished by the widespread use of bots. It makes the game less special to play knowing there are many people out there making 200x what you ever could because they are using macros.

Kalle Demos
Amarr
Helix Protocol
Posted - 2010.12.15 12:21:00 - [182]
 

Edited by: Kalle Demos on 15/12/2010 12:31:16
Originally by: Velios
I would urgently like to see some solid evidence from CCP about their stance on bot's and what exactly (if anything) they intend to do to eliminate their widespread use throughout the game.

It feels to me as if the very image and reputation of the game is being tarnished by the widespread use of bots. It makes the game less special to play knowing there are many people out there making 200x what you ever could because they are using macros.


They already made a blog, they pretty much said, "detecting bots is hard so we will focus on RMT".

As you can see, more is written about RMT and how buying plex is better, a fraction of the blog is about how they cant do anything about bots

When this was posted in a channel with alot of known players, people laughed and congratulated CCP for not doing anything against bots, little do people know that last week botters were pretty worried and actually thought CCP were going todo something

Now botting will be stronger than ever, anyone stupid enough to buy ISK when they can farm isk ultimately with a risk free bot deserves to get a reversal & ban.

Like it has been said over and over, CHANGE MINING & RATTING to make it less boring, which you promised in fanfest 2009 anyway.

FactorySlave01
Posted - 2010.12.15 19:58:00 - [183]
 


FactorySlave02
Posted - 2010.12.16 00:02:00 - [184]
 

Supported.

EdFromHumanResources
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.12.16 01:39:00 - [185]
 

You could sit around idly waiting and hoping for CCP to "fix" botting or you could fight back yourself. Your choice really.

Cal Menahr
Posted - 2010.12.18 02:10:00 - [186]
 

Agreed.
Bots destroy the balance of the universe.

Blind Man
Caldari
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
Posted - 2010.12.18 05:47:00 - [187]
 

Definitely supporting this, all the stories are disheartening to say the least.

Cornerwood
Posted - 2010.12.20 05:19:00 - [188]
 

Edited by: Cornerwood on 20/12/2010 11:57:35
-Thinks deeply- why it took so long get ccp wake up? Is there corruption inside CCP? QuestionShocked

Ariel Blaze
Posted - 2010.12.20 06:05:00 - [189]
 

Make it a bannable offense to have code that affects the client running(most of these bots run python injection scripts). Essentially, it would be an anticheat(they could still use bots that "read" pixels and respond but that is far less effective than the current level of evebot.

samvital
RETRIBUTIONS.
Legion of The Damned.
Posted - 2010.12.20 13:50:00 - [190]
 

Agree

Davader
Posted - 2010.12.20 13:51:00 - [191]
 

+1

The Darker
Posted - 2010.12.20 13:52:00 - [192]
 

Supporting the idea.

Bunyip
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
Posted - 2010.12.20 16:32:00 - [193]
 

I have read the blog and am very disheartened. The original blog post gave me hope that Project Unholy Rage might bear fruit. It's good that CCP is blocking RMT, but it's time to take the next step.

CCP, give us tools to help you get rid of this threat that is destroying the market. Even constant macroers and RMTers have given ways to make this not be possible. However, there is none so blind as he who will not see.

I'm not talking about minigames or captchas, but just a real dedication to the players. Your own software is being reverse engineered, and you don't seem to care about your IP. Wake up and smell the corruption.

Red Raider
Caldari
Caldari Provisions

Posted - 2010.12.20 17:26:00 - [194]
 

Clear out the market bots while you are at it please.

Thyme Wasted
Posted - 2010.12.20 23:47:00 - [195]
 

Perhaps a new approach is warranted.

After all, if you can't beat em... join em.

GIGAR
Caldari
Posted - 2010.12.23 00:05:00 - [196]
 

Still no news from CCP.
This is very disappointing.

Doctor Verhovcev
Posted - 2010.12.23 11:23:00 - [197]
 

Supported.

Ksammar
Posted - 2010.12.23 15:47:00 - [198]
 

Supported.

Gledia
Posted - 2010.12.25 06:06:00 - [199]
 

CCP plz kill all bots in game!

SUPPORTED

ninjaholic
Gallente
House Aratus
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2010.12.25 06:12:00 - [200]
 

Agreed. End the botting.

Mulinex
Posted - 2010.12.25 11:15:00 - [201]
 

Supported.

Venkul Mul
Gallente
Posted - 2010.12.25 12:23:00 - [202]
 

Originally by: Sokratesz
So I finally got some free time before dinner now and the feeling that I have had enough time to think everything over so I can tell you the best parts without all the bull****. It won't be as elaborate as last time. In advance I can say however that I felt that it was very productive and, to quote dr. Eyjo, ' You really set things moving in the right direction with the june summit'.
....

Day 2

EVE Economy
A very interesting talk about the EVE economy, RMT etc. What became clear is that there still is a ****ton of ISK flowing into the economy whilst not enough is exiting it and that they are looking at ways to change this. We discussed ways of dealing with botters and RMT's and the results of that and their existing efforts should become clear in the next year or so. I am still surprised how Eyjo can manage to talk about spaceship economy for 2 hrs with a straight face but he really knows his stuff.




We will see what this will bear. Remember that CCP is a company and will go first against what will damage its profits more, i.e. RMT and then what damage it less, i.e. singular players bots.

For the same reason they will do a cost/result analysis and when getting one more bot will cost too many man hours of work they will not hunt for it, so we will always have a minimum population of bots.

Javajunky
Posted - 2010.12.25 18:55:00 - [203]
 

Here is your update,

CCP is in a business. They need to make to money, bots make money. It doesn't matter that PL is running around venal with 100 Titans and Supercaps made with bots ISK, it doesn't matter that the other alliances in the area have a no bot policy.

The devs don't care, cuz you guys are totally against a client based warden or bot detection app..

Soooo.... STFU and deal with the fact they are going to exist in the game even though most of us take the morale high road. Your idiots if you think there is any practical and cost effective way to solve the problem. Oh ya and not supported- don't waste a revs time

Saerinea Kael
Posted - 2010.12.27 19:06:00 - [204]
 

I hate that bots have/are/will/could be ruining my favorite game and would support any measure to completely remove them.

Gong Tou
Posted - 2010.12.28 10:33:00 - [205]
 

Absolutely agree

support4me
Posted - 2010.12.30 13:13:00 - [206]
 

Short letter to people who "care", to people who are "affected by bots", to people, whom game was "ruined by bots":

Guys and gals. While you hunt, mine and pvp, bots work. While you sleep, they work. They generate minerals and isk.

Now think - EVERY time YOU lose a ship, you HAVE to buy a new one. Or produce with minerals.
Will you dedicate few days of your life on process called "mine-produce-assemble me-self a new drake"? No you won't.
You will buy it on the market for 30mil (or how much is it now), which equals 3 or 4 missions with the same drake in highsec. You will buy it. And you won't even think that 70% of everything is produced by bots, from bots' minerals and bpc's. You just don't want to believe in this. Some of you played EVE since 2003, some since yesterday. And most of you never thought of bots until you saw this post.

And now you moan on a really difficult problem (for CCP to track bots), thinking that you were affected. It's like moaning your car dealer that you have to fuel your car.

/me unsupports this

Kalle Demos
Amarr
Helix Protocol
Posted - 2010.12.30 20:10:00 - [207]
 

Originally by: support4me
Short letter to people who "care", to people who are "affected by bots", to people, whom game was "ruined by bots":

Guys and gals. While you hunt, mine and pvp, bots work. While you sleep, they work. They generate minerals and isk.

Now think - EVERY time YOU lose a ship, you HAVE to buy a new one. Or produce with minerals.
Will you dedicate few days of your life on process called "mine-produce-assemble me-self a new drake"? No you won't.
You will buy it on the market for 30mil (or how much is it now), which equals 3 or 4 missions with the same drake in highsec. You will buy it. And you won't even think that 70% of everything is produced by bots, from bots' minerals and bpc's. You just don't want to believe in this. Some of you played EVE since 2003, some since yesterday. And most of you never thought of bots until you saw this post.

And now you moan on a really difficult problem (for CCP to track bots), thinking that you were affected. It's like moaning your car dealer that you have to fuel your car.

/me unsupports this


Then maybe you should play on sisi only where everything is 100ISK

Stegas Tyrano
Posted - 2010.12.30 21:21:00 - [208]
 

Edited by: Stegas Tyrano on 30/12/2010 21:21:22
Supported.

Ekserevnitis
Minmatar
Black Rise Security Division
Posted - 2010.12.31 13:02:00 - [209]
 

Edited by: Ekserevnitis on 31/12/2010 13:03:01
+1

Optimus Night
Posted - 2011.02.01 10:46:00 - [210]
 

Wow so baisically CCP is saying it can not do much against bots?

So everyone should get a bot! Or change the game mechanics in a way that eve is so easy that you dont need a bot!

How much time do they dedicate every day to find a solution?
Dont they realize that this problem grows bigger and bigger and destroys the game?
Does anyone from CCP reacted to this thread other then telling us nothing can be done? lol

Botters you do realize that you will play the game alone someday? May the best bot win! Crying or Very sad


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