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Pajama Sam
Origin.
Black Legion.
Posted - 2010.12.09 02:31:00 - [1]
 

So earlier tonight, I was out roaming in my shield cane when I stumbled upon a small pirate camp sitting on a gate. Being the magnificent pilot that I am, I easily escaped on the other side. Once I had warped off, Lars Lodar of the Python Cartel convoed me:


I found this rather suspicious, seeing as Lars was a pirate himself, and I was pretty sure Python and Flashy Red (the pirates that were camping the gate), worked together. I brought this up, but Lars quickly assured me that was no longer true. Plus, his bio said he was honorable, so there was no reason for me not to trust him.



I accepted his fleet invite and began searching the system for the pirates that tried to brutally violate my ship. Lars helpfully offered to bait for me, saying his Drake "has a good tank." After a few minutes of searching, Lars shouted in fleet chat:



Being a good wingman, I immediately rushed to his aid. Upon landing, I found that Lars was neither pointing nor shooting said Hurricane. My initial fears were confirmed as Lars and the Hurricane pointed and started shooting me while the rest of the Flashy Red gang landed. "Haha!", I thought to myself, "I can easily outrun these COWARDLY fools in my speedy shield cane." However, a Rapier suddenly uncloaked and webbed me. My beloved Hurricane was quickly reduced to nothing but a smoldering wreck of shame and shattered dreams.

Moral of the story: Lars Lodar is a bad man, and the rest of the Python Cartel/Flashy Red are dishonorable, cowardly, blobbing douches. Don't trust anything they say.

Chatlogs removed. The posting of chatlogs and EVEmails is not permitted in C&P. StevieSG

Zora Zeta
Posted - 2010.12.09 02:36:00 - [2]
 

nice fake story, you couldnt have broken up that camp with a cane and a drake. so everything else seeming fake in your story was honest in telling me it was fake

Lars Lodar
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
Posted - 2010.12.09 02:37:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Lars Lodar on 09/12/2010 02:43:11
It's true. We are indeed terrible human beings.

Lars Lodar
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
Posted - 2010.12.09 02:45:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Zora Zeta
nice fake story, you couldnt have broken up that camp with a cane and a drake. so everything else seeming fake in your story was honest in telling me it was fake


The intention wasn't to kill the gang directly, but patrol the system for 20 minutes. I gave it about 5 minutes to spring the trap, giving time for the rapier to get into position.

That is assuming you're an idiot and not a troll. :D

Jarek Kalensa
FLA5HY RED
The Defenders of Pen Island
Posted - 2010.12.09 02:50:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Zora Zeta
nice fake story, you couldnt have broken up that camp with a cane and a drake. so everything else seeming fake in your story was honest in telling me it was fake


Does this gibberish actually mean anything?

And it wasn't a camp, we were moving through and he happened to land on gate.

Rapier FTW.

Infinity Ziona
Minmatar
Cloakers
Posted - 2010.12.09 03:11:00 - [6]
 

How could you possibly believe there was a person in EvE that actually wanted to help you, especially when he was -10?

If a person with a halo and wings, with a +10 sec status offered me help in EvE I would be suspicious.

Toady11
Posted - 2010.12.09 03:13:00 - [7]
 

I knew Python pulled some dirty **** but this is a pretty douchey thing to do just for a cheap gank. I lost a lot of respect for Flashy Red any Python today and I'll be advising The Tuskers against flying with you guys or inviting you to any events in the future.

Jarek Kalensa
FLA5HY RED
The Defenders of Pen Island
Posted - 2010.12.09 03:26:00 - [8]
 

Oh noes! No shiny party invites for us? I am so woeful I could cry.

Really though, is our crime inviting someone to fleet who should know better? I see it as giving someone some valuable education, and for free too! We are clearly the most altruistic and generous pilots in EVE.

Keep it coming though, C&P threads are like fanmail to us.

Lars Lodar
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
Posted - 2010.12.09 03:32:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Toady11
I knew Python pulled some dirty **** but this is a pretty douchey thing to do just for a cheap gank. I lost a lot of respect for Flashy Red any Python today and I'll be advising The Tuskers against flying with you guys or inviting you to any events in the future.


As Pajama could testify, we all had a good laugh.

Last I checked, there is nothing wrong or dishonorable about socially engineering a gank. Dishonoring 1v1 or ransoms on the other hand are punishable by removal from corp.

Last I checked our corp dominated the last Tuskers AF Tourney and everyone had a good time with no drama.

Toady11
Posted - 2010.12.09 03:43:00 - [10]
 

This is worse than a dishonored 1v1 IMO. My guess is the only thing that will get you guys back into any tourneys is your removal from Python.

Jarek Kalensa
FLA5HY RED
The Defenders of Pen Island
Posted - 2010.12.09 03:48:00 - [11]
 

Is it worse than inviting a new player to a fleet, warping to them and then shooting them in the face? The pilot in that example is relatively blameless, just inexperienced. Pajama Sam has to shoulder some of the responsibility for his loss as he willingly joined fleet with a group of roaming pirates knowing full well what we might do.


Andrea Skye
Caldari
Heavy Risk...
Posted - 2010.12.09 04:24:00 - [12]
 

Our corp rules:

-Honour 1v1s
-Honour ransoms
-Dont shoot any blues.

Anything else goes, same with every other corp. Getting fleet invited and blown up is actualy a common thing with us, you got "Python'd"

Golden Helmet
Caldari
The Python Cartel.
The Defenders of Pen Island
Posted - 2010.12.09 04:40:00 - [13]
 

Here's the deal: If we agree to a 1 v 1 fight, we will honor it. If we agree to let you live for X amount of money and\or assets (contract, ejection, whatever), we will honor it.

If we send you a random fleet invite, and\or BS you in to joining our fleet, we will kill you.

It's something we've done for years and years and years, and you have no idea just how effective it is. Half the time, we don't even need probes, just send that missioner a fleet invite, they accept, and you warp to the prey. Sometimes it takes some work, e.g. "Could you help us with this mission?" or similar. Sometimes we even send alts to nearby highsec to round up gangs of morons to bring in to lowsec, and then lulz ensue. It is always a trap.

Again, we've been doing this for years. We call it being "Python'd". If we agree to a 1 v 1 or your survival for X isk, we will always honor it. Otherwise, you've just been Python'd, sucker.


(Disclaimer: There are exceptions to this. Random fleet invites = ALWAYS a gank. Fleeting potential recruits or "friendly" neuts \ reds for a roam or ganking the **** out of FW, however, is something we commonly do and we don't immediately turn and shoot as soon as we've killed our targets or get bored. Anyone who has flown with us knows the distinction.)

Toady11
Posted - 2010.12.09 04:48:00 - [14]
 

I always thought Python used the fleet trick to get warp ins, I didn't realize you used it to kill potential wing-mates looking for a fight. In my eyes that's worse than a dishonored ransom or dishonored 1v1. Pretty lame stuff guys.

Man Barthelme
The Tuskers
Posted - 2010.12.09 05:25:00 - [15]
 

Sry, why exactly is the Tusker name mentioned in connection to this? I see no Tuskers involved and none posting here. What's the deal, yo?

Headerman
Minmatar
Quovis
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2010.12.09 06:32:00 - [16]
 

Dood, never trust anyone who isn't a blue.

Also, set your CSPA charge to 1m ISk. Will stop that from happening.

Lars Lodar
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
Posted - 2010.12.09 07:11:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Lars Lodar on 09/12/2010 07:12:42
Originally by: Man Barthelme
Sry, why exactly is the Tusker name mentioned in connection to this? I see no Tuskers involved and none posting here. What's the deal, yo?


I'm asking myself the same question. I hope this gentleman isn't in the leadership because it'd be a shame for him to represent the Tuskers.

I would hate for our friendly relationship being tarnished by Toady11 besmirching our honor.

Corndog Sandwich
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.12.09 07:45:00 - [18]
 

i love empire dwellers

Lexa HeIIfury
Posted - 2010.12.09 07:50:00 - [19]
 

gj trusting people m8

Vinya Az'riel
Posted - 2010.12.09 08:03:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Lars Lodar
Edited by: Lars Lodar on 09/12/2010 07:12:42
Originally by: Man Barthelme
Sry, why exactly is the Tusker name mentioned in connection to this? I see no Tuskers involved and none posting here. What's the deal, yo?


I'm asking myself the same question. I hope this gentleman isn't in the leadership because it'd be a shame for him to represent the Tuskers.

I would hate for our friendly relationship being tarnished by Toady11 besmirching our honor.


Your what now?

Meridith Akesia
Stimulus
Posted - 2010.12.09 08:06:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Toady11
I knew Python pulled some dirty **** but this is a pretty douchey thing to do just for a cheap gank. I lost a lot of respect for Flashy Red any Python today and I'll be advising The Tuskers against flying with you guys or inviting you to any events in the future.


m8

Lana Torrin
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2010.12.09 08:26:00 - [22]
 

I've been in fleets against IT where one of their members randomly invited people in the hopes that they just accepted, and if they did warped them to an IT POS.b (Obviously this only worked for people out of fleet, but as it got a few people then there must have been blues not in fleet there) Is this also bad?

Pajama Sam, this was a lesson in how to not be a noob. Please use it and stop being a noob.

Man Barthelme
The Tuskers
Posted - 2010.12.09 08:32:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Lars Lodar
Edited by: Lars Lodar on 09/12/2010 07:12:42
Originally by: Man Barthelme
Sry, why exactly is the Tusker name mentioned in connection to this? I see no Tuskers involved and none posting here. What's the deal, yo?


I'm asking myself the same question. I hope this gentleman isn't in the leadership....


He isn't even in the corp.

SpotlessBlade
Trust Doesn't Rust
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2010.12.09 09:53:00 - [24]
 

Ok.... A GOON...is complaining... that someone did something less than honroable and .....i don't even....

War Kitten
Panda McLegion
Posted - 2010.12.09 12:35:00 - [25]
 

First decent thread I've seen in C&P in a while, thanks for stopping by.

Good story, lots of QQ, and a well executed sting.

9/10

Sinister Dextor
Posted - 2010.12.09 13:21:00 - [26]
 

Pajama Sam has NEVER invited someone to fleet in order to warp to them and gank them. No, never, not once, ever, at all.

Having made that absolutely plain, Pythons gone down a lot in respect since they made BFF with Flashy Red, not that they care, but hey.

Diesel47
Posted - 2010.12.09 13:26:00 - [27]
 

Ok so these guys are friends and they aren't honorable.

Got it.

Jawmare
Minmatar
The Python Cartel.
The Defenders of Pen Island
Posted - 2010.12.09 13:26:00 - [28]
 

Trololololololololololololololololololololololo~~~

Andrea Griffin
Posted - 2010.12.09 14:01:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Toady11
Pretty lame stuff guys.

Ard UnjiiGo
Meatshield Bastards
Posted - 2010.12.09 14:10:00 - [30]
 

Just posting to say: LaughingLaughingLaughing


And to wave hello at Sam and PC.


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