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Tom Gerard
Caldari
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
Posted - 2010.12.07 18:50:00 - [1]
 

People insist rigs are too expensive to fit on tech 1 pvp hulls.

How cheap do rigs need to get?

Will the Noctis drive prices that low

Why are people fitting active tanks to mammoths?

Mag's
the united
Negative Ten.
Posted - 2010.12.07 18:52:00 - [2]
 

What is this I don't even.

Jovan Geldon
Gallente
Lead Farmers
Kill It With Fire
Posted - 2010.12.07 19:21:00 - [3]
 

Even after the Noctis, Tom Gerard threads are still non-sequiturs.

So Cash
Posted - 2010.12.07 19:26:00 - [4]
 

I'm a capsuleer, what is this?

Aunty Nora
Posted - 2010.12.07 19:27:00 - [5]
 

You need to get out a bit man if you need to try this hard.

Nipple Clamps
Posted - 2010.12.07 19:30:00 - [6]
 

I saw a ship fitting that was t1 without rigs

The nocits came out

Therefor no once will put rigs on t1 ships

Tyber Zaan
Posted - 2010.12.07 19:33:00 - [7]
 

I now classify Ton Gerard as "Troll".

Tom Gerard
Caldari
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
Posted - 2010.12.07 20:02:00 - [8]
 

ITT shortbus children.

Players claim rigs are too expensive for tech 1 pvp

Let me dumb it down for you:

Noctis enters game.

Price of salvage falls.

Players claim rigs are too expensive for tech 1 pvp

Tom Gerard asks for intellectual responses.

Tom Gerard gets moronic replies.

Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
Posted - 2010.12.07 20:05:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 07/12/2010 20:05:37
I doubt these "people" exist.

I fit rigs to T1 Frigates without a second thought, and so does everyone else i know.

Corporal Punishment08
NosWaffle
Nostradamus Effect
Posted - 2010.12.07 20:08:00 - [10]
 

Ya know what the best way to get answers is? Start insulting the people that have already posted.

I don't know where you get your info from, or who you fly with, but t1 rigs are used quite a bit now in T1 ships. I use them in my BB all the time, when I used to fly a drake, scorpion for sure, Raven, I've seen rigged Caracal PVP fits. I honestly don't know what you're talking about.

As for your Mammoth question, I don't have an answer cause I don't fly Mammoths.

Lady Ayeipsia
Posted - 2010.12.07 20:13:00 - [11]
 

I knew a few people in Red vs Blue who wouldn't fit rigs on T1 frigates. Still, they were expecting to lose 10+ ships and I could see where the expense comes in that case. Otherwise, most everyone I know throws rigs on a ship.

Ryhss
Caldari
The Excecutorans
Posted - 2010.12.07 20:21:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Ryhss on 07/12/2010 20:22:47
I think the current prices are cheap enough.

Originally by: Professor Tarantula
Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 07/12/2010 20:05:37
I doubt these "people" exist.

I fit rigs to T1 Frigates without a second thought, and so does everyone else i know.
Yup.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2010.12.07 20:27:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Tippia on 07/12/2010 20:27:37
Depends on the ship and the rig…

Fitting 12M worth of trimarks on a 3M ship just to get 2k more EHP feels somewhat unnecessary. Not that this means you should leave it unrigged — just that something else might be more worth-while.

Lost Greybeard
Gallente
Posted - 2010.12.07 20:35:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Tippia
Edited by: Tippia on 07/12/2010 20:27:37
Depends on the ship and the rig…

Fitting 12M worth of trimarks on a 3M ship just to get 2k more EHP feels somewhat unnecessary. Not that this means you should leave it unrigged — just that something else might be more worth-while.


It's almost always worth shoving some cheap capacitor control rigs in there if you have nothing else that's more pressing.

The only things I don't fill the rig slots on are certain ships intended almost entirely for offensive pvp (usually light tacklers) that I'm pretty sure will be blown up soon after I assemble them.

Glyken Touchon
Gallente
Independent Alchemists
Posted - 2010.12.07 21:19:00 - [15]
 

It will also take time for the impact of the Noctis on the market to make itself felt.

Soma Khan
Caldari
Posted - 2010.12.07 21:23:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Tyber Zaan
I now classify Ton Gerard as "Troll".
slow people ITT

Swearte Widfarend
Gallente
Aurora Security
Posted - 2010.12.07 21:23:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Swearte Widfarend on 07/12/2010 21:23:58
Originally by: Tippia
Edited by: Tippia on 07/12/2010 20:27:37
Depends on the ship and the rig…

Fitting 12M worth of trimarks on a 3M ship just to get 2k more EHP feels somewhat unnecessary. Not that this means you should leave it unrigged — just that something else might be more worth-while.


QFT - There are significantly more rigs than trimarks...

Why would you not fit (for example) 700k of hybrid damage rigs on a Thorax?


Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2010.12.07 21:25:00 - [18]
 

Edited by: Tippia on 07/12/2010 21:29:10
Originally by: Glyken Touchon
It will also take time for the impact of the Noctis on the market to make itself felt.
Tbh, I have a feeling that the main impact will actually by another hit to the mineral market — unlike previous popular "mission clean-up" ships, the Noctis has enough cargo hold to just scoop everything without caring for how much stuff is worth in terms of ISK/m³. This means more loot (especially things like booster charges and metal scraps) will be reprocessed.
Originally by: Swearte Widfarend
QFT - There are significantly more rigs than trimarks...

Why would you not fit (for example) 700k of hybrid damage rigs on a Thorax?
Yup. I wouldn't be surprised if at least some of the apprehension towards rigging cheaper ships is because people aren't fully familiar with the options available. If it's not one of the "famous" rigs (trimarks, CDFP/Es, CCCs and the the like), they just don't bother, even though there's plenty of reasonably cheap stuff out there that improve some less obvious or oddball stat.

Pesky LaRue
Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels
Etherium Cartel
Posted - 2010.12.07 21:27:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Tom Gerard
People insist rigs are too expensive to fit on tech 1 pvp hulls.

How cheap do rigs need to get?

Will the Noctis drive prices that low

Why are people fitting active tanks to mammoths?
Did you intentionally pick your name to rhyme with retard or was it just a lucky coincidence?
Originally by: Tom Gerard
People insist rigs are too expensive to fit on tech 1 pvp hulls.
And exactly which people are these? Are you using the conversations you have with your alts in corp chat as "people insisting"?

Doddy
Excidium.
Executive Outcomes
Posted - 2010.12.07 21:50:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Professor Tarantula
Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 07/12/2010 20:05:37
I doubt these "people" exist.

I fit rigs to T1 Frigates without a second thought, and so does everyone else i know.


This. Personally i think t1 rigs are too cheap if anything. Caps should def need more expensive "extra large" rigs at the very least.

Jim Luc
Caldari
Rule of Five
Vera Cruz Alliance
Posted - 2010.12.07 21:59:00 - [21]
 

I think people should fit more T2 rigs to T1 frigates. This thread made me laugh so hard Laughing

Black Dranzer
Caldari
Posted - 2010.12.07 22:01:00 - [22]
 

Deja vu.

The Noctis will probably cause prices to fall a bit, but give it a few months.

Xituqtra
Posted - 2010.12.07 23:01:00 - [23]
 

yes when a new ship enters the game the effects of this ship can be seen after 1 week in the game so it's strange my rig prices show almost no movementRolling Eyes

AstarothPrime
Posted - 2010.12.08 07:06:00 - [24]
 

Armor tanking rigs are too expencive, its true.

You can always fit some 200k ISK speed rigs on your frigs and some 200k ISK shield resistance rigs as well.

My T1 pvp cruisers all carry shield resistance amplifiers, frigates a combo of resistance and speed.

I.

Aiwha
Caldari
101st Space Marine Force
Nulli Secunda
Posted - 2010.12.08 07:14:00 - [25]
 

I rig everything. People who do not rig either plan on dying a glorious suicidal death, or are competing for a Darwin.

CCP Spitfire


C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2010.12.08 09:15:00 - [26]
 

Moved from 'EVE General Discussion'.


Salvia Olima
The All-Seeing Eye
Merciless.
Posted - 2010.12.08 13:50:00 - [27]
 

IMHO this does not solve the price of T2 rigs. Mag sites' loot-table needs to be revisited or T2 rig components should be allowed to be made from T1 components too.

VanNostrum
Posted - 2010.12.08 14:04:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Lady Ayeipsia
I knew a few people in Red vs Blue who wouldn't fit rigs on T1 frigates.


This thread is now about Red vs Blue

Jennifer Starling
Amarr
Posted - 2010.12.08 14:07:00 - [29]
 

Edited by: Jennifer Starling on 08/12/2010 14:07:37

I don't think people will go salvaging en masse with the Noctis. It's not that good and awfully slow. I'd rather salvage in a Loki. I think we'll hardly see any effect - if at all - on salvage materials or rigs.

Arzamor
Caldari
Posted - 2010.12.08 14:50:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Tom Gerard
ITT shortbus children.

Players claim rigs are too expensive for tech 1 pvp

Let me dumb it down for you:

Noctis enters game.

Price of salvage falls.

Players claim rigs are too expensive for tech 1 pvp

Tom Gerard asks for intellectual responses.

Tom Gerard gets moronic replies.

Ok fella, you asked a moronic question and expect anything but flames?
Rigs are not too expensive for T1 PVP hulls, never have been.
Only too expensive for cheap ass, flat broke wallets.

Let me simplify:
Rigs are not too expensive for [___] ships, they're too expensive for SOME cheap/broke pilots.
And the level of wallet where the rigs aren't too expensive is entirely up to the player behind the pilot.
On top of that, since they introduced small and medium rigs, anything less than large has been insanely cheap. Medium purger/extender rigs on PVE/PVP drakes dropped price for fit ship by over 30 million isk.

Noctis will primarily mean that those mission runners and ratters who salvage will do so faster, and have more time for missions/rats and make more isk and lose more ships and buy more rigs. Prices may go down, but not extravagantly.

And because I know you were going there, it will not affect T3 market.


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