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riverini
Gallente
Reliables Inc
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2010.12.05 23:51:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: riverini on 11/03/2011 16:01:21
Good evening, NEW EDEN. Allow me first to apologize for this interruption. I do, like many of you, appreciate the comforts of every day routine- the security of the familiar, the tranquility of PVE repetition. I enjoy them as much as any carebear. But in the spirit of condenation, thereby those important revelations of today usually associated with someone's botting or the end of some awful bloody RMT struggle, a celebration of a nice holiday, I thought we could mark this December the 5th, a day that is sadly no longer remembered, by taking some time out of our daily lives to sit down and have a little chat.

There are of course those who do not want us to speak. I suspect even now, orders are being shouted into the batphones, and CTA’s against me and forum moderators will soon be on their way. Why? Because while the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power.

Words offer the means to meaning, and for those who will listen, the enunciation of truth. And the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with this GAME, isn't there? RMT and injustice BOTTING, tolerance and COMPLACENCE. And where once you had the freedom to make a profit, to play and enjoy as you saw fit, you now have ENDLESS HORDES OF BOTS and THEY ALLIANCE LEADERS AND REGULAR PLAYERS coercing EVEN INTO conformity and soliciting ITS submission.

How did this happen? Who's to blame? Well certainly there are those more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable, but again truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror. I know why you did it. I know you were afraid. Who wouldn't be? BANNINGS, RMT, AND CEOS. There were a myriad of RMTS which conspired to corrupt your reason and rob you of your GAME. Loath got the best of you, and in your loath you turned to the now biggest patronisers of this treachery: THE CSM AND CCP. They promised you order, They promised you NO LAG, and all they demanded in return was your silent, obedient consent of the BOTTING and RMT operations. Last night we sought to end that silence. Last night we disclosed the the confession of a seasoned RMT player, to remind this GAME of what it has forgotten AND WHAT HAZ it complaced into. More than four years ago a great citizen wished to embed the fifth of December forever in our memory. His hope was to remind NEW EDEN that fairness, justice, and freedom of BOTTING are more than words, they are perspectives.

So if you've seen nothing, if the SCANDAL of this RMTs remain unknown to you then I would suggest you allow the fifth of December to pass unmarked.

But if you see what I see, if you feel as I feel, and if you would seek as I seek, then I ask you to stand beside me one THIS NEXT WEEK, outside THIS PORTAL INTO to all major MMORPG outlets, and together we shall give them a month of December that shall never, ever be forgot.

German Giggles ShockedShockedShocked
riverini YARRRR!!

Quick facts: 1bil RMT is bought on the black market @$20 - $30 USD, do your math.

TL;DR: CCP IS BEING COMPLACENT ABOUT TE BOTTING BCZ THEY'LL LOSE A HUGE SHARE OF THE GTC MARKET IF THEY WERE TO BAN THEM, THIS HOWEVER IS KILLING THE GAME for honest ppl who play the game as they should. as proven before we can't expect CCP to move a finger until some duder from a major news outlet shows some of this, else they don't care about the honest gamers (ref. see lag +18 months)

R

edit: there fixed the title! u happy now?

Cyrus Doul
E0 Corp
Posted - 2010.12.05 23:57:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Cyrus Doul on 06/12/2010 00:01:13

ibtl
Edit for context: article mentions on how you can use chribba to get around ccp finding you RMTing. Im providing a couple other not mentioned options that Mr Lion missed.
quote of my comment from evenews on the 2nd article that shall not be linked:
"Any and all things like that are money laundering. EOH and somer.Blink are horrible for it. I bet if EOH went though their database they could find certain chars losing billions to the same set of people over and over. And Blink, well. take the GTC's or any lotto. You see one person bid on just enough slots over and over again so they can make sure they win more then they lose, By doing so the money can leave their account. get washed by blinks account and sent back as an actual item instead of isk again. Adding one more layer of masking to it. you see people like Quazal Atreides on there 15+ hours a day. at this point they have bots for the bots. He at this point has put at least 55 billion isk into the game as shown by his achievements. And don't forget, Chribba, EOH and Somer are all actively making isk off of this. Somer says that they have handed out 9.2 trillion isk since they started. Theres no way for a normal player such as me to see who is a bot or legit. But you know a lot of that money are payouts that are going to be used for RMT and Somer keeps something like 15 to 20 percent house Rake. so they have 1.38 trillion isk laying around that is prolly a good half made from laundering payouts."

Apathy 420
Minmatar
I'M ON A BOAT
Posted - 2010.12.05 23:57:00 - [3]
 

what

Tom Fulleride
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2010.12.06 00:01:00 - [4]
 

"fed"

Tiliam
Caldari
Posted - 2010.12.06 00:02:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Tiliam on 06/12/2010 00:02:21
Right so unfortunately I was unable to decipher what you've written OP - I tried google translate but it just blew up when I tried. Something about RMT and bots? Anyway it didn't make much sense.

Good luck getting a good discussion on it during the 5th December, as it's the 6th December in all GMT timezones...

also ibtl.

riverini
Gallente
Reliables Inc
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2010.12.06 00:04:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: riverini on 06/12/2010 00:08:02
reserved.

Kara Sharalien
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
Posted - 2010.12.06 00:06:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Kara Sharalien on 06/12/2010 00:06:18
In this wall of text showdown, WHO WILL WIN?

Riverini, of Majesta Empire, got the jump on our challenger, Cyrus Doul, and has surpassed all expecations in the area of atrocious spelling.

HOWEVER, Cyrus has demonstrated considerable technique, and none could contest that his text is even more densely compacted and unreadable then his opponent, who made the critical fumble of including one paragraph break per three paragraphs!

This is sure to be an interesting matchup, back to you in the studio John!

Aunty Nora
Posted - 2010.12.06 00:10:00 - [8]
 

Theres not much to be worried about, Botters are only a problem if they surprise and take you from behind.

Cyrus Doul
E0 Corp
Posted - 2010.12.06 00:12:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: Cyrus Doul on 06/12/2010 00:15:13
Edited by: Cyrus Doul on 06/12/2010 00:13:13
Originally by: Kara Sharalien
Edited by: Kara Sharalien on 06/12/2010 00:06:18
In this wall of text showdown, WHO WILL WIN?

Riverini, of Majesta Empire, got the jump on our challenger, Cyrus Doul, and has surpassed all expecations in the area of atrocious spelling.

HOWEVER, Cyrus has demonstrated considerable technique, and none could contest that his text is even more densely compacted and unreadable then his opponent, who made the critical fumble of including one paragraph break per three paragraphs!

This is sure to be an interesting matchup, back to you in the studio John!



Yeah I'm just going to make the point that individual sentences tend to not count as paragraphs all too often. and if you were to quote my original statement you will see that there are all of 2 spelling errors, (FYI Im should have a ' and prolly is shortened probably.) Same as your count of expectations as expecations and your false conjunction of match and up as matchup. Technically I guess I should give you half credit as the word is match-up. You just forgot the hyphen. Nice try though Grammar ******. [EDIT] <-- The stars are the leader of the **** party during WWII. Figure it out for yourself.[/EDIT] [EDIT2]Wow. CCP really sticks to the censorship of language to appease Germany's idea that they were all on vacation and to not talk about it.[/EDIT2]

omgfreemoniez
Posted - 2010.12.06 00:15:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Cyrus Doul
Nice try though Grammar ******. <-- The stars are the leader of the **** party during WWII. Figure it out for yourself.


My grandad never told me about the Four Stars Party?


Rian O'Shea
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2010.12.06 00:18:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Rian O''Shea on 06/12/2010 00:20:18
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_8pRHBsMHlbc/TNPRzCrXycI/AAAAAAAAB6A/_JhIuhrOWZw/s1600/v_for_vendetta.jpg
Image changed to a link. Spitfire

Kara Sharalien
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
Posted - 2010.12.06 00:21:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Kara Sharalien on 06/12/2010 00:22:18
Edited by: Kara Sharalien on 06/12/2010 00:21:59
Originally by: Cyrus Doul
Edited by: Cyrus Doul on 06/12/2010 00:15:13
Edited by: Cyrus Doul on 06/12/2010 00:13:13
Originally by: Kara Sharalien
Edited by: Kara Sharalien on 06/12/2010 00:06:18
In this wall of text showdown, WHO WILL WIN?

Riverini, of Majesta Empire, got the jump on our challenger, Cyrus Doul, and has surpassed all expecations in the area of atrocious spelling.

HOWEVER, Cyrus has demonstrated considerable technique, and none could contest that his text is even more densely compacted and unreadable then his opponent, who made the critical fumble of including one paragraph break per three paragraphs!

This is sure to be an interesting matchup, back to you in the studio John!



Yeah I'm just going to make the point that individual sentences tend to not count as paragraphs all too often. and if you were to quote my original statement you will see that there are all of 2 spelling errors, (FYI Im should have a ' and prolly is shortened probably.) Same as your count of expectations as expecations and your false conjunction of match and up as matchup. Technically I guess I should give you half credit as the word is match-up. You just forgot the hyphen. Nice try though Grammar ******. [EDIT] <-- The stars are the leader of the **** party during WWII. Figure it out for yourself.[/EDIT] [EDIT2]Wow. CCP really sticks to the censorship of language to appease Germany's idea that they were all on vacation and to not talk about it.[/EDIT2]


John, we have another development back at the stadium!

It seems that not content with his original submission, Cyrus has created another masterpiece for the judges to assess. Included in this submission are crimes against full stops, flagrant misunderstanding of forum tags and a lonely apostrophe, all sure to win him a lot of points in the final judging.

Riverini will have to lift his game if he is to retain any hope of winning this one! Back to you, John.

Joe Skellington
Minmatar
Matari Legion Holding
Matari Legion
Posted - 2010.12.06 00:33:00 - [13]
 

I'm feed up too, ate a lot of Thai food a few hours ago, then I had a big bowl of vegetable stew.


omgfreemoniez
Posted - 2010.12.06 00:35:00 - [14]
 

OP, you may be feed up, but I assure you my finances are in perfect order and all fees have been paid.


Herping yourDerp
Posted - 2010.12.06 00:35:00 - [15]
 

i see the trolls are trolling, you obviously didnt pay the troll toll


anyways RTM is a major problem, and they should be doing somthing about it, weather thy are or not is the question

mechtech
SRS Industries
SRS.
Posted - 2010.12.06 00:35:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: mechtech on 06/12/2010 00:36:03
Just ate curry, I'm feed up!

edit: RMT is my #1 problem with the game. We need to make this our #1 issue with CSM. Posts like this do nothing.

Pyro Ninja
Gallente
Viral Industry
Posted - 2010.12.06 00:40:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: omgfreemoniez
Originally by: Cyrus Doul
Nice try though Grammar ******. <-- The stars are the leader of the **** party during WWII. Figure it out for yourself.


My grandad never told me about the Four Stars Party?




it was a secret party if he told you about it he would have to kill you Shocked

ps3ud0nym
Posted - 2010.12.06 00:42:00 - [18]
 

Edited by: ps3ud0nym on 06/12/2010 00:45:18
While I agree that Botting and RMT in EVE is a major issue, I am more interested in other ramifications arising form this.

1) Tax evasion - Seems like this is a good way to make money and keep it off the books.

2) Real world money laundering

The question I have is, if CCP doesn't do something about this and very soon, how long will it be before the major media start picking this up and accusing CCP of facilitating criminal activity?

Alara IonStorm
Caldari
Posted - 2010.12.06 00:43:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: riverini
WE ARE FEED UP!!!! TIME TO MAKE SOME NOISE ABOUT RMT AND BOTTING!!!!


If noise = mocking the OP, mission acomplished.

Stegas Tyrano
Posted - 2010.12.06 00:44:00 - [20]
 

We need more war in eve.

The only reason they're making so much is because they've found safe space to bot in. We need more Hulkageddons and more wars in 0.0.

Green Daemon
54th Massachusetts Volunteer Infantry
Posted - 2010.12.06 00:46:00 - [21]
 

OP is mostly ~mad~ because he cannot figure out how to link to the thread that started all this on **********.com

..... dammit. "my alliance" . com

Rian O'Shea
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2010.12.06 00:47:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Stegas Tyrano
We need more war in eve.

The only reason they're making so much is because they've found safe space to bot in. We need more Hulkageddons and more wars in 0.0.


The problem is that "we" fight for the fun of it, "they" fight for their RL income so their tenacity and focus is very different from us players who "just want to have some fun".

Apart from that; Am I seriously the only one who recognised the OP's post? surely not.

Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
Posted - 2010.12.06 00:52:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Rian O'Shea
Originally by: Stegas Tyrano
We need more war in eve.

The only reason they're making so much is because they've found safe space to bot in. We need more Hulkageddons and more wars in 0.0.


The problem is that "we" fight for the fun of it, "they" fight for their RL income so their tenacity and focus is very different from us players who "just want to have some fun".

Apart from that; Am I seriously the only one who recognised the OP's post? surely not.


I'm with you.. and I' really don't get the deal with people bothering a rats ass about grammar.


I thik (yeah you understnd tha tws think) we all got the point with the "feed" think.. dotting i's and crossing ts is for anal rententives or peoplpe who can type without transposing a letter in everyother word

riverini
Gallente
Reliables Inc
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2010.12.06 01:15:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Diomedes Calypso
Originally by: Rian O'Shea
Originally by: Stegas Tyrano
We need more war in eve.

The only reason they're making so much is because they've found safe space to bot in. We need more Hulkageddons and more wars in 0.0.


The problem is that "we" fight for the fun of it, "they" fight for their RL income so their tenacity and focus is very different from us players who "just want to have some fun".

Apart from that; Am I seriously the only one who recognised the OP's post? surely not.


I'm with you.. and I' really don't get the deal with people bothering a rats ass about grammar.


I thik (yeah you understnd tha tws think) we all got the point with the "feed" think.. dotting i's and crossing ts is for anal rententives or peoplpe who can type without transposing a letter in everyother word


disregard the gammar nahzeees let's focus on what's important, these botters are keeling the game, how does it feel to pvp against someone who shrug off loses by letting his computer auto-rat losses while he is at the office... Evil or Very MadSurprisedSurprisedSurprisedSurprised

Rian O'Shea
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2010.12.06 01:17:00 - [25]
 


FluffyDice
StarFckers Inc.
Posted - 2010.12.06 01:19:00 - [26]
 

Just thought id add to this that last time i had a browse through ccp's website i noticed they are actually looking to hire someone with the experience and knowledge to address all these issues such as botting and exploits and other security issues that have emerged. Rest assured that CCP is working on dealing with such problems.... eventually

CHEERWlNE
Posted - 2010.12.06 01:21:00 - [27]
 

If you want people to take you seriously then please learn how to ****ing spell properly, thanks.

Soma Khan
Caldari
Posted - 2010.12.06 01:21:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Rian O'Shea

The problem is that "we" fight for the fun of it, "they" fight for their RL income so their tenacity and focus is very different from us players who "just want to have some fun".
translation: we suck at 'good fights' so here's a cool and convenient reason why we're such losers

Meridian Siri
Posted - 2010.12.06 01:22:00 - [29]
 

Prior to reading this thread, I was checking out another about Botting and RMT. Even though there was good (and plentiful) discussion regarding an issue that the player base is concerned about, the thread got locked by a CCP moderator (Adida).

OK. So you (CCP) have a good chunk of your player base that is pretty worked up over the issue of RMT and Botting and your response is to silence the conversation because "RMT is a EULA violation". What a load of CR**! The discussion itself is not the violation, idiots; it is the botting and RMT. Silencing the conversation makes CCP look either 1) uncaring, 2)complacent, 3)complicit, or 4) like idiots. You pick.

Suppose you will remove this thread because it discusses moderating or some BS like that.

oldmanst4r
Minmatar
oldmanst4r's Corporation
Posted - 2010.12.06 02:26:00 - [30]
 

Edited by: oldmanst4r on 06/12/2010 02:26:27
Edited by: oldmanst4r on 06/12/2010 02:26:10
1. Botting will exist as long as there is profit to be made.

2. There will always be profit to be made in botting EVE.

3. Therefore, there will always be botting in EVE.


So, shut up.





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