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Takseen
Posted - 2010.12.04 17:33:00 - [1]
 

What do we tell them after December 14th?

Killstealing
Posted - 2010.12.04 17:38:00 - [2]
 

finally you can say: "My dear, you can train whatever you want."

Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
Posted - 2010.12.04 17:38:00 - [3]
 

Cybernetics

Taladool
Minmatar
JIta-Hosting
Posted - 2010.12.04 17:46:00 - [4]
 

Learning skills

Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
Posted - 2010.12.04 17:46:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Killstealing
finally you can say: "My dear, you can train whatever you want and cybernetics at least to level 1."


FYP.

On the bright side it only requires science 3 and you can then use tractor beams too.

JC Anderson
Caldari
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2010.12.04 18:03:00 - [6]
 

ORE Industrial

Jennifer Starling
Amarr
Posted - 2010.12.04 18:06:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Destination SkillQueue
Originally by: Killstealing
finally you can say: "My dear, you can train whatever you want and cybernetics at least to level 1."


FYP.

On the bright side it only requires science 3 and you can then use tractor beams too.

You even start with Science III so Cybernetics I is perhaps a few minutes Wink ..

I'd say a few fitting skills would be handy.

JC Anderson
Caldari
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2010.12.04 18:19:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Jennifer Starling
Originally by: Destination SkillQueue
Originally by: Killstealing
finally you can say: "My dear, you can train whatever you want and cybernetics at least to level 1."


FYP.

On the bright side it only requires science 3 and you can then use tractor beams too.

You even start with Science III so Cybernetics I is perhaps a few minutes Wink ..

I'd say a few fitting skills would be handy.


Good advice indeed.

The core certificates are a good guideline for new players when it comes to fitting skills. Likely one of the few times where the certificate system comes in handy. ;)

Del Preston
Posted - 2010.12.04 18:22:00 - [9]
 

cybernetics, your basics (mechanic/engineering/electronics)


more specifically


electronic upgrades/hull upgrades and any skills related to capacitor usage

Jamie Jin
24th Imperial Crusade
Posted - 2010.12.04 18:26:00 - [10]
 

Like previous posters said ^^. Cybernetics V, Learning V, Advanced Learning V, or you midas well just quit because your wasting your time. Then you need BS V, T2 Large Guns, at LEAST or you shouldn't bother leaving station because your worthless. Then when you leave station you're worthless because you're in Empire and you are a citizen of ancient Rome and you can't come to 0.0 without 20m SP or PVP. Go mine noob.

iKill Giants
Eternal Phoenix Rises
Posted - 2010.12.04 18:53:00 - [11]
 

Engineering 5 - to maximize the power core.

Electronics 5 - to maximize the CPU.

Energy Management 5 - to maximize the capacitor capacity.

Energy Systems Operation 5 - to maximize the rate at which the capacitor recharges.

Energy Grid Upgrades 5 - to reduce the CPU requirements of installing power modules.

Mechanic 5 - To maximize hull strength.

Shield Management 5 - to maximize shield capacity.

Shield Operation 5 - to maximize the rate at which the shield recharges.

Hull Upgrade 5 - To maximize armor strength.

Repair Systems 4 - To be able to operate the best armor and hull repair modules

Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
Posted - 2010.12.04 18:58:00 - [12]
 

Drones.

Ren Nekk
Dead Eye Dogs
Posted - 2010.12.04 18:59:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Ren Nekk on 04/12/2010 19:03:31

Unfortunately a true answer to this question will still, as it has for a little while now, depend on the person's specific (or, more complicated, general), long-term goals, which must first be generated in order to determine which skills will fit best during particular neural remaps over the course of at least 2 years, as a result of weighing the relative pros and cons of expediency and efficiency.

This will continue to generate confusion among the stupid, with the advantage that there will be 11 less skills to addle the poor brains of this population. Although, as has been the case for a little while now, these people will likely just ask one of their stupid fellows how they should remap, and the friend will say something somebody else told them, and then these people will happily go on training whatever they want, or perhaps the above recommendations, from that point forward.

HURRAY PROGRESS!

Shiho Weitong
Caldari
Koa Mai Hoku
Posted - 2010.12.04 19:26:00 - [14]
 

JDO V, JDC V, JFC V.

I don't want other people playing. ^^

Bodrul
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2010.12.04 19:29:00 - [15]
 

simple

wrong forum son, Skill Discussions is that way>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>







Kyra Felann
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2010.12.04 20:16:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Jamie Jin
you midas well just quit


Wow.

Nilanea
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.12.04 20:19:00 - [17]
 

Sure. Train up Learning skills to 5/5 and get +5 implants. You can either station spin for the next 3 months or do low level missions in your frig till the training is done. Training anything else is a waste of your time and inefficient.

Oh, wait. After Dec 14...

What was that other response... what was it... it was inefficient and silly... Oh yeah... Do whatever you want and have fun.

Anyway. I guess it will be train up cybernetics to 4 and complete the core certificates (wow, now they seem kinda useful). Well that and have fun.

Can't wait till Dec 14. Heck I might make a new account and check out the rookie chat and see how things go.


Xercodo
Amarr
Xovoni Directorate
Posted - 2010.12.04 20:51:00 - [18]
 

I'm pleasantly surprised that unless i missed it, no one has pointed out that this should be in NC Q&A

Suitonia
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2010.12.04 21:27:00 - [19]
 

It depends entirely on what the person wants to do. However, I think the best start someone can get before branching off to do something they want to do would be this: I would start off by training for a Drake right off the bat for mission running, Kestrel (level 1 easy), AML Caracal (level 2 easy), Drake (level 3 easy). Once you have a semi-decent drake and level 3 missions, you have a decent enough income to decide to do what you want. You can quickly get to 8-9mil an hour with even 2-3 week old skills in a Drake when you reach level 3 missions. The skillbooks and Drake and Caracal can be funded by the time you reach the required standings to be able to run those missions.

From there, you can decide whether or not you want to PvP, carry on the PVE route to level 4s, decide to trade, or (heaven forbid) decide to mine. a few hours of Level 3 missions provide a decent enough income for you to be able to afford the start up of trading, or invention, or most things which you are able to do with your skills at this point.


Taedrin
Gallente
Kushan Industrial
Posted - 2010.12.04 21:41:00 - [20]
 

One can NEVER go wrong with the Core Competency certificates, unless you are making a trading alt.

Black Dranzer
Caldari
Posted - 2010.12.04 21:51:00 - [21]
 

We will tell them to train Whatever they damn well please.

Barkaial Starfinder
Minmatar
The Kairos Syndicate
Transmission Lost
Posted - 2010.12.04 22:06:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Killstealing
finally you can say: "My dear, you can train whatever you want."


THIS
Everyonetroll who is complaining about learning skills going away should read just this.


Get all support to level 3
some to level 4
put your ship of choice at 4
and weapons at 4

good start imo

MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Posted - 2010.12.04 22:13:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Barkaial Starfinder
Originally by: Killstealing
finally you can say: "My dear, you can train whatever you want."


THIS
Everyonetroll who is complaining about learning skills going away should read just this.


Get all support to level 3
some to level 4
put your ship of choice at 4
and weapons at 4

good start imo


this is why when people say you can't catch up they are full of ****.

A new player could train all of that in the time it would take me to get battleships to level 5 from 4.

you might not catch up in SP, but what does that really mean? Total number of skills trained is where it's important. the final 5% bonus takes about 80% of the training time.

Kyra Felann
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2010.12.04 22:43:00 - [24]
 

Yup, too many people are too focused on SP as a number instead of the important thing: skill levels and the benefits they give you.

These are probably the same people that grind for things to show off and make them feel superior in other games.

SP is just a number. It, in and of itself, does nothing for you.

JitaPriceChecker2
Posted - 2010.12.04 23:15:00 - [25]
 

Definietly lerning skills ...

Forum Guy
Posted - 2010.12.04 23:20:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Takseen
What do we tell them after December 14th?


Just tell them to do the tutorial missions then choose a profession and train in that direction. Should make things easier for them to choose now anyway without having to worry about that mini-game the 'learning skills'.

Killstealing
Posted - 2010.12.04 23:56:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: Barkaial Starfinder
Originally by: Killstealing
finally you can say: "My dear, you can train whatever you want."


THIS
Everyonetroll who is complaining about learning skills going away should read just this.


Get all support to level 3
some to level 4
put your ship of choice at 4
and weapons at 4

good start imo


this is why when people say you can't catch up they are full of ****.

A new player could train all of that in the time it would take me to get battleships to level 5 from 4.

you might not catch up in SP, but what does that really mean? Total number of skills trained is where it's important. the final 5% bonus takes about 80% of the training time.

this
but skills like drones V (+1 drone woop big deal) unlock skills like drone interfacting (+20% drone dmg/lvl omg i just ****ed)
then again you have skills like combat drone proficiency (I think it was prof.) that give +5% dmg for a 5 day train.

QT McWhiskers
EdgeGamers
Situation: Normal
Posted - 2010.12.05 01:13:00 - [28]
 

Hmm seems like the new answers will be. Your core skills, electronics, engineering, missile launcher Yadda yadda, then caldari frigate 4, caldari cruiser 4, battlecruiser 4, and missile skills because 2011 will be the year of the drake until ccp nerfs it making it nearly useless.

Squasar
Void Angels
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2010.12.05 01:42:00 - [29]
 

Anchoring V. Never know when you want to anchor stuff. It's very important in combat.

Hori To
Masuat'aa Matari
Posted - 2010.12.05 01:44:00 - [30]
 

my advice would depend on the players chosen profession.

one of : drake / hurricane / hulk most likely


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