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Avedoi
Posted - 2010.12.04 15:59:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Avedoi on 04/12/2010 16:16:56
Honestly, why didn't you let us choose the size of all the UI text instead of only the context menu font? Please, a small change of a setting is all I ask. I'm not on a ridiculously high resolution (19" LCD @ 1440x900) nor am I vision impaired.

Don't you know how bad it is for posture, eyesight, etc to lean in close to the monitor all the time? This is the single biggest hurdle for me to play EVE more than say 2 hours a week. Seriously.

I'm not asking for a sweeping change to the UI where everyone is affected by it whether they like it or not, just get that damn pulldown box to apply to all of the UI text.

Edit: Before you ask, I've tried it in fullscreen and windowed. No difference.

Master Alt2
Posted - 2010.12.04 19:32:00 - [2]
 

+1 with ability to change text sizes of certain items.

sian miller
Posted - 2010.12.04 19:32:00 - [3]
 

+1

Serpenser
Posted - 2010.12.04 22:06:00 - [4]
 

CCP has given us the ability to increase font size. Simply reduce your resolution to a respectable 800 x 600. Problem solved.

But of course that introduces another problem. Eve doesn't look as pretty at 800- x 600.

Avedoi
Posted - 2010.12.05 01:08:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Avedoi on 05/12/2010 01:10:32
Originally by: Serpenser
CCP has given us the ability to increase font size. Simply reduce your resolution to a respectable 800 x 600. Problem solved.

But of course that introduces another problem. Eve doesn't look as pretty at 800- x 600.


I'm using a widescreen TFT monitor. Do you have any idea how BAD everything looks at 800x600? Stretched out all horrible AND way too low resolution.

And we can't change the font size for all text, only the context menu (Right-click menu). I've been able to widen all text, but that doesn't do nearly enough.

I WILL NOT be forced to change my screen resolution to workaround bad UI design.

I'd sooner stop playing, but I don't want to. This is a great game. I just want it to not wreck my eyes and back.

BlackPyro
Posted - 2010.12.06 23:44:00 - [6]
 

I think, this is an important point. I told my co-worker about EVE, and that it is an amazing game. He was intrigued first, as he saw the screen shots. Then he installed EVE at home. On the next day he told me, that he deinstalled it again. I asked him, why, and he told me, that the font was to small for him. That is the only point, why he does not play EVE now.

blake fallout
Posted - 2010.12.06 23:49:00 - [7]
 

i noticed im getting closer and closer to the screen -except for the right click in space which i made size 11 (12,s too big, 10,s too small 11,s just right Wink

Kara Sharalien
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
Posted - 2010.12.06 23:51:00 - [8]
 

I am vision impaired. I was not so badly at the time I started playing, and fortunately, muscle memory lets me identify most of the UI without having to read it.

But the new right click menus are really ****ing with me, because I cant see them.

blake fallout
Posted - 2010.12.06 23:54:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: blake fallout on 06/12/2010 23:55:06
even getting within inches of the screen i still cannot (as said in other post like this) tell an eve 8 from an eve 9 since thier just too small especialy in wh stacks of items.

Mr Astrophobia
Posted - 2010.12.07 07:51:00 - [10]
 

I play at 1680x1050 and I have to lean forward when I play EVE, I just started and I already hate that I have to do that. It makes me not want to play for longer periods of time.
Even this forums default font size is too small, but thankfully you can increase that in your settings.

Perhaps the EVE devs have very good eyes.

Cresalle
Posted - 2010.12.07 13:48:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Mr Astrophobia
Perhaps the EVE devs have very good eyes.

Nah. Vikings are always blind drunk. They play by braille.

Avedoi
Posted - 2010.12.10 07:25:00 - [12]
 

So this is obviously an important topic, yet no devs have entered into the discussion?

I would've thought fixing a usability problem that adversely affects one's vision (refocusing to mid-range distance after being a few inches from a screen) temporarily or quite possibly permanently would give this trivial fix a higher priority.

Please, I'm looking for acknowledgement from a developer. Even if it's 'coming soon™'Smile

Nuts Nougat
SniggWaffe
FREE KARTTOON NOW
Posted - 2010.12.10 09:20:00 - [13]
 


Avedoi
Posted - 2010.12.10 09:38:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Nuts Nougat
The font is too damn small!


Heh, yeah. That's exactly what I had in mind when I started this topic. Why didn't he become President (speaking as an Aussie)?Very Happy

DaemoN Eleuel
Minmatar
Ookami no sekitsui
Posted - 2010.12.10 10:25:00 - [15]
 

i support this.. seriously, my eyes bleed when i try to do trading or pos stuff.

Would it be possible to just be able to resize the whole UI?

Rick Jaaaames
Posted - 2010.12.16 02:57:00 - [16]
 

I'm a huge fan of this idea. I'm running a 24" HD monitor at 1920x1080. I saw a thread from a year ago where this was the admin's responce...

Quote:
Posted - 2009.03.27 12:34:00 - [3] Not gonna happen, guys, there's no window manager in EVE to make this change fast and smooth.

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1035174

This has to change. Monitors are only getting bigger and if the UI guys are planning on sticking with what they have they're not going to be UI guys for long.

Does anyone know if there is a .cfg file that we can edit to make this work in the mean time?

Avedoi
Posted - 2010.12.24 13:33:00 - [17]
 

I'm beginning to think the devs are playing on projectors or big-screen tvs, or something. Hello, devs: NOT ALL OF US CAN THROW AROUND THAT MUCH MONEY!

But seriously, I don't have a problem seeing things in every other part of my life, why the hell should I get glasses just to play EVE?

Anyone suggesting corrective lenses should show me the degree/diploma/certificate showing they're a licensed and registered optometrist (and also psychic, being able to diagnose others over the Internet) or shut the hell up.

Originally by: Rick Jaaaames
I'm a huge fan of this idea. I'm running a 24" HD monitor at 1920x1080. I saw a thread from a year ago where this was the admin's responce...

Quote:
Posted - 2009.03.27 12:34:00 - [3] Not gonna happen, guys, there's no window manager in EVE to make this change fast and smooth.



Is Tonto Auri actually an admin? I might be mistaken, but I can't see any proof that they are anything but another speculative player. Not trying to be argumentative, just a bit skeptical.

Duvida
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2010.12.24 18:21:00 - [18]
 

I'd also like to support options to increase the font size in EVE.

Avaaloniaa
Posted - 2011.01.03 07:43:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: Avaaloniaa on 03/01/2011 07:43:26
Originally by: Avedoi
Edited by: Avedoi on 04/12/2010 16:16:56
(...)
I'm not asking for a sweeping change to the UI where everyone is affected by it whether they like it or not, just get that damn pulldown box to apply to all of the UI text.


I fully support this. Fonts are way too tiny in EVE on large screens especially.

We need a patch that addresses the interface on high resolution screens.

dirka
Posted - 2011.01.03 15:52:00 - [20]
 

+1

It is not like this is a new problem. CCP knows they have serious UI issues.

I believe the issue is more along the lines of:
  • font design is resource intensive (expensive) and boring

  • the GUI API is probably written in a way that doesn't easily allow for this change

  • it isn't an item that they can put on their list of *FANCY NEW FEATURES*

  • they probably have an in-development version of a new GUI in the works

Many requests have come requesting the ability to place Overview, Chat window, etc on a second monitor.
That change alone would fix it for some.

De'Veldrin
Minmatar
Norse'Storm Battle Group
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2011.01.03 16:02:00 - [21]
 

Yes, yes, yes, +1000 times yes.

Twilight Runner
Posted - 2011.01.04 17:39:00 - [22]
 

I play on a samsung 32" tv, at 1376 x 768 and the text is soooo annoyingly small.

CCP Sort it Twisted EvilTwisted Evil

Avaaloniaa
Posted - 2011.01.19 11:47:00 - [23]
 

I feel like this needs a big BUMP. I was so hoping the new patch would sort this out somehow... Crying or Very sad

betoli
Gallente
Posted - 2011.01.19 15:11:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: dirka
+1
  • the GUI API is probably written in a way that doesn't easily allow for this change




  • What is it written in? Please don't tell me its completely custom windowing system....

    Vezek
    Posted - 2011.01.20 07:47:00 - [25]
     

    I recently came back to Eve after receiving info from CCP about the new expansion, and picking up the Echelon and what not. It's just almost prohibitively unreadable. I've done everything I can to try to manipulate the font; but even lowering it to 1620 (or whatever, I'm not a resolution guy) makes the text far too blurry to read and doesn't really increase its size that much. Back in the day, when I was running the game at 1024 or 1200 or what have you, I don't remember this being a problem at all. But that's just not feasible anymore, when my native resolution makes that look horrific even with anti-aliasing.

    This really is a problem.

    shasby
    Posted - 2011.01.20 10:55:00 - [26]
     

    +1

    I also have friends who have asked "how can you read that stuff?!?"

    Many of us are used to it but you are not helping new player intake.

    Gibbo5771
    Posted - 2011.01.20 12:30:00 - [27]
     

    I play on a 24"" viewsonic 1920x1200.

    Text it fkin tiny but if you play on a small res like 1280x1024 not only does it look ****e, theres also no room to stretch my overview out and make local big etc etc

    My Postman
    Posted - 2011.01.20 15:32:00 - [28]
     

    /very much supported

    Biggest problem for me is to different a 0 (zero) and a 8. Sometimes i take of my glasses and come nearer to the monitor till my nose touches the screen.

    Stop loughing!

    Greg Huff
    Posted - 2011.01.20 19:00:00 - [29]
     

    +1 +1 +1 +1 +1...

    I recently changed my color scheme to Black and it did help a lot but not nearly enough. I've given up on reading mission reports/npc conversations. Unfortunately, there's no escaping the problem. I'm an industrialist which means a lot of marketing and PI. Trying to read the numbers is near impossible... even with my nose to the screen and looking through the strongest edge of my bifocals. Embarassed (note to self - find a magnifying glass)

    We need to get CCP and the CSM's to acknowledge this. Sad

    Avedoi
    Posted - 2011.01.25 10:42:00 - [30]
     

    Edited by: Avedoi on 25/01/2011 10:42:47
    Been keeping my training queue full on my laptop (15" @ 1366x768) and it's still way too small and unclear.

    Included in the latest patch? Damn, nope.

    ANYONE AWAKE IN CCP??


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