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Scorson
Aideron Robotics
The Aideron Collective
Posted - 2010.12.04 15:24:00 - [91]
 

Facebook isnīt a good idea...
Yes, I have pleanty of contacts there, including those who will promote my things... but isnīt right.
In the previous contest you made non-players to design something that donīt have a clue how it must be, now you like to non-players vote about something they donīt understand?
Iīm thinking seriously if it worth the 3-4 days effort for me, a industrial designer, to participate.
The design should be by players, the vote should be by players, logged in their accounts.

Grabaldy
Posted - 2010.12.04 15:45:00 - [92]
 

Originally by: silnys NYS
My work for the contest

Peregrine SBC
Linkage

Kite
Linkage

Sinister
Linkage

...i hope you like it


I NEED those interceptors! and that t3 ship, think it needs class of it's own!

Pheonix Dragoon
Posted - 2010.12.04 15:57:00 - [93]
 

anyone else having issues uploading pictures to the contest? I have tried and tried with different pictures and I keep getting the same error: "Please attach a GIF, PNG or JPG (max. 5MB) of your work"

It is a jpg and it is only 2.8mb. I have tried a PNG as well at 3.5mb and still the same error ;p

I tried different browsers, renaming, etc....no luck. I emailed the help email address but haven't heard from them yet and thats been 3 days ;p

So I'm out of ideas ;p Anyone else have any?

MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Posted - 2010.12.04 23:14:00 - [94]
 

Edited by: MotherMoon on 05/12/2010 09:45:58
CCP WTF are you even reading this thread?

just tell us already so we start working! I don't want to waste 20+ hours on somethign just to have it beaten by someone who made a 3d model and just pressed render!

I also don't want someone who worked 4 times harder with 5 times my skill to make a 3d model, render it out as flat lines, and get disqualified!

I want to follow the rules, but if you give us an example of whats ok and what isn't how are we suppose to follow them?

Linna Excel
Posted - 2010.12.05 01:36:00 - [95]
 

This is a silly question and probably a no, but for those of use with 3d programs, would it be possible to submit .obj files instead?

Adalara Tapten
Posted - 2010.12.05 04:56:00 - [96]
 

You would think with the new evegate thing, They would find a way for you to vote on these ships using it.


Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2010.12.05 04:57:00 - [97]
 

EVE needs Tsunami and Freeborn.

Alexis Sapphire
Posted - 2010.12.05 06:23:00 - [98]
 

Originally by: Razin
EVE needs Tsunami and Freeborn.


I'm personally not terribly crazy about the Freeborn, but I've loved the Tsunami since I first saw it in the DA contest. That DOES need to be in EVE.

Verlaine Glariant
FW Scuad
Posted - 2010.12.05 07:18:00 - [99]
 

Looking at all these incredible designs I have the feeling that current in-game ship designs all need an important revamp cause I see them 'old'.

Cassus Temon
Aliastra
Posted - 2010.12.05 11:10:00 - [100]
 

Originally by: Elisa Vilerum
what about previus winner,manny peps will wine about ships looking bad but minmatar ships do look like fail usage of pentium 3 and mental tard in attempt to create viable kinda retro/solar thingy look...

so while im happy with another ship contest i need that tornado to buzz around space and all min could use good looking ship

ignore typos am driving


ShockedVery HappyLaughing

That's bad you know..

BlinSky
Posted - 2010.12.05 11:19:00 - [101]
 

OK so where do we actually submit?

I can not see any info on that.

Donno if I'l participate thou I still recover from the 3 weeks i lost with DA fake arranged contest....

Cassus Temon
Aliastra
Posted - 2010.12.05 11:42:00 - [102]
 

Quote:
•Entrants will need to provide six (6) views of their entry (all in the same image) in order to provide accurate represantation of details, measurements, and shapes. The six views should be clean, line drawings/illustrations/schematics of the exterior hull of the starship. It is preferred that you include a fully shaded/colored view (a seventh view) of the starship in the entry as well.


For those of you questioning this; the rules are as stated above. To interpret them simply, they should be clean(free of smudges, cofee stains, and the like), line drawings(black on white); and either a drawing(concept of object), illustration(artistic line drawing including 7th view), or schematic(scaled drawing; with all images in the same scale. A 7th image would be exempt from the scale req.)

In other words. 3D Models, or images of 3D models; are not an acceptable entry. Only those drwan with a 2D CAD program, Paint program; or scanned and retouched Ink or Pencil drawings are acceptable.

Think of what you would use, to import and work from; in a 3D modeling program, for example.

Also, no gridlines, or axis lines, and no watermarks; just the perspectives, (left, right, front, top, bottom, and back), and a notation including the length of the longest axis, in an unused corner. A seventh view, would be on a seperate image.

I would also suggest, its likely to be more useful; should you make the entire image, of a size the would allow individual perspectives; to fall into the 1024x768 size range category. This will remove any issues with resizing, compression; and importing perspectives to a modeling program.

Clear?

Obviously, some of you may still want CCP to confirm something like this; but, I would expect any entry following these specifications to be acceptable.

Bhattran
Posted - 2010.12.05 14:58:00 - [103]
 

Originally by: yieasase
What is facebook?


It is this 'social' thing that CCP wants to model EVE after with Micro transactions to do everything.

Linna Excel
Posted - 2010.12.05 19:04:00 - [104]
 

Cassus, it would be good to consider for future use at least. Some of the ship designs I've seen in EVE would be a little in drawing form without using extra drawings for some of the intricate/hidden areas. An .obj file would be something for them to look at in 3d and get a good idea of what was going on. It'd be in scale and easy to work with.



BTW, there are free 3d art programs out there.

Avernus
Gallente
Paragon Fury
Cascade Imminent
Posted - 2010.12.05 19:41:00 - [105]
 

Some seriously impressive talent being displayed in this thread.

Also, MotherMoon's questions really do need a CCP answer.

Imiarr Timshae
Caldari
Funny Men In Funny Hats
Posted - 2010.12.05 20:42:00 - [106]
 

I would like to offically register my vote for the "Tornado".

I do not use Facebook and will as such not be voting via that cesspool of a website.

Joss56
Gallente
Unleashed' Fury
Posted - 2010.12.05 21:29:00 - [107]
 

Originally by: silnys NYS
My work for the contest

Peregrine SBC
Linkage

Kite
Linkage


Sinister
Linkage

...i hope you like it


I don't like matar ships desin but yours look realy fine so has i'm not using "Facecrap" i will not be abble to vote YARRRR!!

Would like to see what you could do for Gallente design so Wink

MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Posted - 2010.12.05 23:11:00 - [108]
 

Edited by: MotherMoon on 05/12/2010 23:20:37
Originally by: Cassus Temon
Quote:
•Entrants will need to provide six (6) views of their entry (all in the same image) in order to provide accurate represantation of details, measurements, and shapes. The six views should be clean, line drawings/illustrations/schematics of the exterior hull of the starship. It is preferred that you include a fully shaded/colored view (a seventh view) of the starship in the entry as well.


For those of you questioning this; the rules are as stated above. To interpret them simply, they should be clean(free of smudges, cofee stains, and the like), line drawings(black on white); and either a drawing(concept of object), illustration(artistic line drawing including 7th view), or schematic(scaled drawing; with all images in the same scale. A 7th image would be exempt from the scale req.)

In other words. 3D Models, or images of 3D models; are not an acceptable entry. Only those drwan with a 2D CAD program, Paint program; or scanned and retouched Ink or Pencil drawings are acceptable.

Think of what you would use, to import and work from; in a 3D modeling program, for example.

Also, no gridlines, or axis lines, and no watermarks; just the perspectives, (left, right, front, top, bottom, and back), and a notation including the length of the longest axis, in an unused corner. A seventh view, would be on a seperate image.

I would also suggest, its likely to be more useful; should you make the entire image, of a size the would allow individual perspectives; to fall into the 1024x768 size range category. This will remove any issues with resizing, compression; and importing perspectives to a modeling program.

Clear?

Obviously, some of you may still want CCP to confirm something like this; but, I would expect any entry following these specifications to be acceptable.


ok see, this is the issue with having the players clarify the rules. You say things like, grid lines are not ok. I am a 3d modeler, and everyone that has ever given me a job has different ideas of how the rules work. Asking questions is standard produces to make sure the client gets what he wants.



like the grid lines thing, I personally keep grid lines on my model sheets, or even add them to help model. So I put them in. But your right they don't need to be there, but will the client not pay me if I put them in? I should be allowed to ask such a question.

I'm kinda insulted by CCP that they won't clarify the rules, yet expect me to do work for them under those circumstances.

Venusa
Posted - 2010.12.05 23:28:00 - [109]
 

Edited by: Venusa on 05/12/2010 23:34:04
What the hell ?! replace the fail deviant art team with a Facebook mechanic isnt a really smart choice... If CCP is trying to get a new start with this contest , Facebook is the worst way to take. Mad

Only EVE player should be able to vote, logged in their respective accounts. There is no reason to let people who dont give a Rolling Eyes to EVE to vote for the ships.

Please just change that and you'll have your perfect contest whith happy players

Venorati
Posted - 2010.12.06 00:39:00 - [110]
 

Edited by: Venorati on 06/12/2010 00:40:16
Edited by: Venorati on 06/12/2010 00:40:00
Originally by: MotherMoon

caldari battleship



Holy... I... Love it!

(Same with the Kite, Sinister and Tsunami Smile )

HeliosGal
Caldari
Posted - 2010.12.06 01:04:00 - [111]
 

Well its an interesting contest good to see ccp is giving us more hsips in 2011

Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2010.12.06 01:36:00 - [112]
 

Originally by: Alexis Sapphire
Originally by: Razin
EVE needs Tsunami and Freeborn.


I'm personally not terribly crazy about the Freeborn, but I've loved the Tsunami since I first saw it in the DA contest. That DOES need to be in EVE.

My personal (and unrealistic) hope is that Freeborn will replace the Tempest.

Elisa Vilerum
Posted - 2010.12.06 01:46:00 - [113]
 

people are still waiting for answers man up ccp

gargars
Posted - 2010.12.06 08:00:00 - [114]
 

I acknowledge CCP trying to recover form the horrid Deviant Art debacle - but this post I support 10000%. What the hell does facebook have to do with eve other than trying to schmooze your way into a few new accounts. We aren't stupid you know.


Originally by: Scorson
Facebook isnīt a good idea...
Yes, I have pleanty of contacts there, including those who will promote my things... but isnīt right.
In the previous contest you made non-players to design something that donīt have a clue how it must be, now you like to non-players vote about something they donīt understand?
Iīm thinking seriously if it worth the 3-4 days effort for me, a industrial designer, to participate.
The design should be by players, the vote should be by players, logged in their accounts.

Cassus Temon
Aliastra
Posted - 2010.12.06 08:29:00 - [115]
 

I'm not certain gridlines are unacceptable; or even that axis lines are, likewise. It just may be though, and easier to bypass that; if you just edit them out prior to submission. I also think it's quite possible to 3D Model, with the right program; as 3D Max, and some others, have Views that are unaffected by perspective distortion. This is what I think they are trying to avoid, mostly; with regards to 3D Models, and the like. So flat Views from a 3D Program like 3DS Max, (with no wirefram of course), taken and edited in a 2D program; to remove background colors and simplify the view, would likely also be perfectly acceptable. The end result would of course have to look like a schematic drawing; but aside from that, I don't see why it couldn't be done.

Unfortunately, GMAX is downloading Fraps at the moment; so, I'm probably not going to post my own entry. It's been-literally--years since I sat down and drew a starship; and actually went to the effort to create schematic views for it, as has been requested. I'm not sure I could do it anymore; and, I recall exactly how much time went into it. A lot. I don't have that kind of time anymore, generally; and I'm not sure I want to make time for it. Particularly as I know a lot of you; will turn out much better work than I possibly could. GMAX would have made that easier I think; particularly as I've never successfully drawn an actual 7th viewRolling Eyes 3D is actually much easier to work with.

luvmehard
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.12.06 08:29:00 - [116]
 

Excuse my ignorance, but...why was the DevianArt contest a failure?

Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
Posted - 2010.12.06 11:20:00 - [117]
 

Edited by: Destination SkillQueue on 06/12/2010 11:24:06
Originally by: luvmehard
Excuse my ignorance, but...why was the DevianArt contest a failure?


The result wasn't a failure, but the actual process caused loads of problems and anger. Basicly there were loads of confusion about the rules and they weren't properly clarified during the competition. Later when the semi-finalists were announced, most of the popular and designs fitting well to EVE were not selected. Only a few were actually fit for EVE, rest were random scifi spaceships with even a LOL design that was in clear violation of the rules.

Naturally EVE players and the DA artist were ****ed, since both felt cheated by the judges who clearly didn't even bother to follow their own rules and ignored the part where these designs were supposed to fit in to an existing franchise. As a result the LOL design was dropped and it was replaced by the winning design. As you can see even taking taste in to account it was hard to swallow that the lol piece of crap could ever be considered better than the tornado and the tornado was just 1 of many great designs that were ignored in favor of weaker designs.

luvmehard
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.12.06 11:33:00 - [118]
 

Edited by: luvmehard on 06/12/2010 11:33:50
Originally by: Destination SkillQueue
Edited by: Destination SkillQueue on 06/12/2010 11:24:06
Originally by: luvmehard
Excuse my ignorance, but...why was the DevianArt contest a failure?


The result wasn't a failure, but the actual process caused loads of problems and anger. Basicly there were loads of confusion about the rules and they weren't properly clarified during the competition. Later when the semi-finalists were announced, most of the popular and designs fitting well to EVE were not selected. Only a few were actually fit for EVE, rest were random scifi spaceships with even a LOL design that was in clear violation of the rules.

Naturally EVE players and the DA artist were ****ed, since both felt cheated by the judges who clearly didn't even bother to follow their own rules and ignored the part where these designs were supposed to fit in to an existing franchise. As a result the LOL design was dropped and it was replaced by the winning design. As you can see even taking taste in to account it was hard to swallow that the lol piece of crap could ever be considered better than the tornado and the tornado was just 1 of many great designs that were ignored in favor of weaker designs.


I see. Thank you for the clarification. It sure seems to have been an embarrassment.

edit: grammar

SFM Hobb3s
Vanguard Frontiers
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2010.12.06 13:52:00 - [119]
 

Well I've just about finished my ship, just shiny/bump maps left to go, so I'm just waiting for clarification on the rules before I submit.

Caldari Battleship

CCP Spitfire


C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2010.12.06 16:25:00 - [120]
 

Hello everyone,

To answer some of your questions:

Q. Are 3D models rendered in line view for the 6 views acceptable?
A. Yes.

Q. Is having darkened areas to show depth acceptable?
A. Yes, as long as you provide 6 clear views of the ship plus a color render.

Q. Are plain grayscale renders of a 3D model allowed?
A. Yes, but the renders should show detail clearly.

Hope that helps.


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