Posted - 2010.12.30 14:28:00 - [271]

 

I'm quite surprised with choice of some semi-finalists, and when I say that, I don't mean it in a good way. Few of my favorite designs that I saw as early entries to this competition are not there. And this smells like previous DA competition to me. It would be nice if CCP would show all participating entries. Thanks.

Posted - 2010.12.30 15:19:00 - [273]

 

Here was my actual submission for the contest, I don't think it was ever shown on the contest website:

Lammergeier full version

I'm happy I made it despite the contest stuff up and result..

Posted - 2010.12.30 16:54:00 - [275]

 

Edited by: Mike deVoid on 30/12/2010 16:54:14
Came to add myself to the list of people not happy that facebook app required to vote.

Quote:

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EVE Online Final Vote is requesting permission to do the following:

Access my basic information
Includes name, profile picture, gender, networks, user ID, list of friends, and any other information I've shared with everyone.

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F*ck that sh*t, that's personal information you just don't require.

Posted - 2010.12.30 17:56:00 - [277]

 

Edited by: Zhems Bund on 30/12/2010 17:59:12
Edited by: Zhems Bund on 30/12/2010 17:57:24

Well add me to the list as well, I will not use facebook (privacy, data protection etc etc). CCP, insisting on using it is a big mistake. I would request that in future we are offered an alternative.

As I am not going to be able to vote my suggestion is, no matter which design wins, that Robin S's Interbus Courier is implemented. It's about time we had a real ship for that faction and I’m sorry but the yellow shuttle doesn't count!!!

Posted - 2010.12.30 18:27:00 - [279]

 

iam not sure if my entry were uploaded at all(cant remember getting any email confirming anything).. so posting a link here - Peleus
some fancy writings and eve logos might made some difference (: oh well, you cant win them all anyways

Posted - 2010.12.30 19:15:00 - [281]

 

Ok that´s my Way to the Protest to CCP.

I can´t to hold a view from CCP to go this follow ways.

1. i can´t accepted to minimized the chance for varoius artist to go to the top20 why CCP submitted 3 works for one artist.
although when are good works from this artists

2. to use fu*** Facebook to use for a voting, anyone knowing our data not secure on facebook

sorry i can´t this accepted now and i canceled my both eve-accs

bye bye ccp

Posted - 2010.12.30 19:31:00 - [283]

 

Edited by: Macmuelli on 30/12/2010 20:58:53

Originally by: Kamilla Vermillion

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Edited by: Kamilla Vermillion on 30/12/2010 18:57:57

guys, maybe we should run our own contest?

just a site with ALL works and in-game voting mechanism

then mass petition for the winner(s)
if that doesnt work - just collect some isk for the winner

if that thought looks intresting to you - post X

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I ve done serveral contest s before, but they where low in response. Some used it to post not there own stuff, and simply copyed entries from other peoples.

follow the link, and u will see entries. I will keep this contest running again, till i ve enough time.

Contest

I personal have no problem with the voting mechanism.

btw "The vidar" tooks a hell of time to model it. It s not textured but much detailed.

So if it looks bad or good It s a point of view.

But i m pretty proud that it find s the way into the voting.


greetings

mac

Posted - 2010.12.30 19:50:00 - [285]

 

Edited by: Nakayme Caonis on 30/12/2010 19:56:17
It would be interesting to see a player run contest.
But yes, I do feel as if I have been smacked across the face, several times, by someone who didn't bother to wash their hands after using the bathroom.

I can understand that CCP works and tries to get stuff done, as talking about how you are trying to get it done, doesn't necessarily help get it done. That doesn't mean you shouldn't provide updates though.

The main reasons behind these feelings that I have though is that CCP did not have a right to deny entries from appearing in the semi-finals, except for their qualifying rules - under 5MB, and looks like it would fit in EVE. IF there is a submission that was accepted by the site, which apparently did have some filters to ensure the 5MB thing, and IF the ship looks like it COULD fit some design concept in EVE, even if it is a new faction that doesn't even currently exist, then the entry should have been posted. THAT, after all, is what the point of voting for which ship you think is the best - originality and creativity certainly is NOT against the PUBLISHED rules here.

In hindsight, I feel like I should have dropped my ship design on the spot and entered the J!NX design when it was announced, just because it wasn't run by CCP, aka, Better feedback and support, and at least my art would have been posted. It's not like I get the consolation prize for all the work I put into my starship design drawing, and all the fighting I did with my computer to get it to work, after all. From what I've read of the rules - those prizes only go to the people that CCP has accepted as submitting entries that meet the basic qualifying criteria - AKA, all of the entries displayed on the semi-finalists finalvote website - all of the 47 entries currently displayed.

So, everyone who put the work in, applied, had a half-decent design that many people said would fit in EVE, don't even get an acknowledgment or a notice stating why they weren't accepted, or that they weren't excepted at all. They get to look through the entries, wondering where theirs is, and then after double checking it, have to wonder why theirs isn't there. Is it still loading? Are they still adding more entries? But why is the voting already open?

After a day, it's apparent and the answer is clear. Those entrants just have to accept that they entered under the rules, and their effort was thrown into a trash can for some reason that they can't conceive under the current rules, and that despite they put the effort in, someone decided to disregard the rules and just throw people and their effort away anyway. I won't pretend to know the reason for this.

I'm just disgruntled because I feel the contest's rules regarding the qualifiers were mishandled, to the point where CCP offered me candy and decided I couldn't have any even though I did what they said. That's something that's supposed to be reserved for in game conduct - not out of game, game related contests by CCP.



Edit: All things considered, it might have been the rush to get things done via people that were less patient and more demanding that resulted in many entries being thrown out, that should not have been thrown out. So it's not completely CCP's fault.
I still reserve the right to be disgruntled though.

Posted - 2010.12.30 19:59:00 - [287]

 

Originally by: Billy Kidd

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Edited by: Billy Kidd on 30/12/2010 19:55:38
Nah, the problem with this contest is that most people didn't even know if they got in or not. All we have is the final 40, and for the rest of us who aren't in the top 40, we don't even know whether our entries were even received for judging.

Even if CCP just posts a gallery of EVERYONE's entries just to prove that they got all our submissions, that'd be a helluva lot better than what they have now.

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Those aren't the 47 final. Those are the 47 qualifiers. Now is the public vote, where the 47 qualifiers will be voted on by the public. After that is reduced to 20 finalists, CCP will have a vote on which ones are the winners.
To date, there has been no voting involved to my knowledge, as the rules do not call for it. Anything else entered besides those 47 were not acceptable entries to the contest. They were just thrown out, like the Mach 5.

Posted - 2010.12.30 20:34:00 - [289]

 

Originally by: Billy Kidd

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So most of the entries in the original gallery were not qualified to make it to this round? Wow.

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the more amazing thing is that there things in the semi-finalists that should not even have a chance to win.

CCP said that there would be 5 winners 1 grand price and 4 others, 1 for amar, caldari, gallente, and mimitar.

so do an ore miner or sansha ship really belong in the semifinals

Posted - 2010.12.30 20:42:00 - [291]

 

Well, I petitioned my missing entry (IMO, better than my entry which actually made it to the voting) and it looks like when CCP said "pre-screen" they really meant "pick the top 40-ish". I've sent a reply asking for a clear explanation of what standards were used in selecting which entries were posted to vote on.

Posted - 2010.12.30 20:51:00 - [293]

 

Originally by: Guy Ferox

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i would like to know this also, this semi-finalist does not even have mesurements on the design clearly not meeting the requirements in the rules

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heh, are we having DeviantArt farse all over again?

Posted - 2010.12.30 21:02:00 - [295]

 

Edited by: Nakayme Caonis on 30/12/2010 21:06:11

Originally by: Guy Ferox

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Originally by: Billy Kidd

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So most of the entries in the original gallery were not qualified to make it to this round? Wow.

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the more amazing thing is that there things in the semi-finalists that should not even have a chance to win.

CCP said that there would be 5 winners 1 grand price and 4 others, 1 for amar, caldari, gallente, and mimitar.

so do an ore miner or sansha ship really belong in the semifinals

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Yes.
Sansha can count as an Amarr Based Pirate Faction, and their ships derive a good amount of basis from Amarr Origin. They use Beams and Armor much like the Amarr and Blood Raiders, have their home outside of Amarr space, and etc. Although you'd have to check their storyline history for more, they can easily be considered Amarr Deviants as a basis.

ORE is a little more plain and clear. They can count as a Gallente based Industrial Faction, and even has the description: "A filthy rich corporation that disassociated itself from the Federation when it tried to encroach on the companies riches."

Both can win the grand prize without requiring a faction.

Posted - 2010.12.30 21:16:00 - [297]

 

Originally by: Nakayme Caonis

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Edited by: Nakayme Caonis on 30/12/2010 21:06:11

Originally by: Guy Ferox

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Originally by: Billy Kidd

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So most of the entries in the original gallery were not qualified to make it to this round? Wow.

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the more amazing thing is that there things in the semi-finalists that should not even have a chance to win.

CCP said that there would be 5 winners 1 grand price and 4 others, 1 for amar, caldari, gallente, and mimitar.

so do an ore miner or sansha ship really belong in the semifinals

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Yes.
Sansha can count as an Amarr Based Pirate Faction, and their ships derive a good amount of basis from Amarr Origin. They use Beams and Armor much like the Amarr and Blood Raiders, have their home outside of Amarr space, and etc. Although you'd have to check their storyline history for more, they can easily be considered Amarr Deviants as a basis.

ORE is a little more plain and clear. They can count as a Gallente based Industrial Faction, and even has the description: "A filthy rich corporation that disassociated itself from the Federation when it tried to encroach on the companies riches."

Both can win the grand prize without requiring a faction.

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so you check out the marketplace, ore comes up under gallente ships?

Posted - 2010.12.30 21:24:00 - [299]

 

So this gets in

But this one doesn't?

WTF