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Brandrsun
Caldari
Posted - 2010.12.01 15:27:00 - [31]
 

No

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Jyngo
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2010.12.01 15:40:00 - [32]
 

Postin in a troll thread.

Buzz Killingdon
Posted - 2010.12.01 16:17:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: Glyken Touchon
Edited by: Glyken Touchon on 01/12/2010 00:56:32
Why Jita specifically? (and not other systems too?

Also, the reason that spreading out the lag woould be worse is that the Jita node is reinforced- it's neighbours aren't.

edit- clarification


This. Dumbass.
Let's just make empire space a great big NAP fest, and serve milk and cookies instead of missiles and lasers. Do they have rainbows in space that we can skip towards while holding hands in the sunset?

If you don't like the way it is, don't go to Jita. There are systems just outside Jita with very similar prices, with very few gankers, and no lag. If this idea was implemented, you'd have people that don't even go to Jita leaving the game, because once the flood gates open, well you get the idea, I would hope.

Magnus Orin
Minmatar
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.12.01 17:35:00 - [34]
 

Why should Jita have different rules than any other high sec system??

CCP did not make Jita the main market hub of the game, the players did.

FFS do you people not understand how a sandbox game works?

Kabaal S'sylistha
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2010.12.01 17:53:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Magnus Orin
Why should Jita have different rules than any other high sec system??

CCP did not make Jita the main market hub of the game, the players did.

FFS do you people not understand how a sandbox game works?


Cat poops in box, autistic boy eats sand and gets almost /dead, deranged doctor solves all the problems in the end but is still somehow an arse?

Jaik7
Posted - 2010.12.02 20:16:00 - [36]
 

if this occurs, then we'd have to balance it out somehow.

say that this weapons lock is exorbitantly costly to CONCORD, it would be reasonable to charge a fee to every person entering the system, whteher that be from the outside thru a stargate or from the inside thru a station. i think knocking you ten mil would be good enough. i don't think that anywhre should just be safe wihtout palyers having to do something, and since carebears (me) can't shoot, this is a pretty good way to do that in my opinion.

as to wardecced guys hanging out there, what are they gonna do? pi is out, mining is out, pvp is what they're running from... the only thing i can think of would be things you can do from any station in eve, (market mogul stuff, courier contract setting, buy orders, ect.) which would make it simply not worth it to go all the way to Jita to hide in the same way they would in any old sation.

the systems around Jits probably would not get too much extra lag, because they are already handling the epik convoys of stuff that goes through them hourly, and they've already got more than their fair share of gankers, scavengers, and other neerdowells.

Anubis Assassin
Caldari
SandStorm.
The Babylon Consortium
Posted - 2010.12.15 23:47:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: Jaik7
if this occurs, then we'd have to balance it out somehow.

say that this weapons lock is exorbitantly costly to CONCORD, it would be reasonable to charge a fee to every person entering the system, whteher that be from the outside thru a stargate or from the inside thru a station. i think knocking you ten mil would be good enough. i don't think that anywhre should just be safe wihtout palyers having to do something, and since carebears (me) can't shoot, this is a pretty good way to do that in my opinion.

as to wardecced guys hanging out there, what are they gonna do? pi is out, mining is out, pvp is what they're running from... the only thing i can think of would be things you can do from any station in eve, (market mogul stuff, courier contract setting, buy orders, ect.) which would make it simply not worth it to go all the way to Jita to hide in the same way they would in any old sation.

the systems around Jits probably would not get too much extra lag, because they are already handling the epik convoys of stuff that goes through them hourly, and they've already got more than their fair share of gankers, scavengers, and other neerdowells.


At least someone here isn't a complete moron intent on flaming rather than thinking... I dunno about the fee though, just another isk sink. That would also be tacking on a 10m price tag on anything you buy from there. It'd probably force most items to stop being traded there. Whether that would be a good thing or not, I dunno.

I just got outta jita and it's so horrible right now... I also liked an idea someone else said in local. They linked a thread about it, but I'll be damned if I click it. They were talking about muting trial accounts in jita. I think that's a pretty good idea as well.

Glyken Touchon
Gallente
Independent Alchemists
Posted - 2010.12.16 00:08:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: Anubis Assassin

I just got outta jita and it's so horrible right now...


gee- I wonder why its so busy. Could it be because most people have 6/7 figures worth of SP to put into new toys?

Its going to be very busy for a few days.

Lets face it- even Concord sov systems aren't weapon-locked. Jita isn't even 1.0- if this got through, what is the reason that all other 0.9 and 1.0 systems aren't also weapon-locked?

In fact you may have more success pushing for an upgrade to the system's sec status rather than this.

Jaik7
Posted - 2010.12.16 03:54:00 - [39]
 

twould be better if the response time was improved.

i personally don't support this thread and wont sign my name to it in support because i personally think that EVE is a freefire zone where you can get away with almost anything you can get away with. makes it more fun for me too, even though i am a carebear.

i posted before because i like to contribute to wierd ideas, and i was trying to push this idea from the ridiculous to the almost plausible.

I'd really rather have it set up so that hisec systems can be declared weapons locked by concord after a corp pays an exorbitant fee, and low and nullsecs should be allowed to be concord patrolled for ten times the previous exorbitant price, but still have concord arrival put off for up to a full minute. really, if someone can't gank you within a minute, i don't think that they should have undocked in the noobship. this gives carebears the security blanket they want to go to riskier space, and it leaves plenty of room for competent pirates to make some pretty fireworks.

to me, at least, it makes sense that concord operates as a mercenary service instead of a police force, because theres no money in their current line.

Torothanax
Posted - 2010.12.16 05:36:00 - [40]
 

Hey here's a hint: If you don't like lag.... wait for it... Don't go to jita! Simple huh? Feel free to pay me.

Seriously though, every time they upgrade jita, or reduce the lag in any way, more people go there. I can remember when the population cap was 400. Stop being part of the problem, or stop complaining about it.

Black Dranzer
Caldari
Posted - 2010.12.16 06:39:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: DeadNite
Edited by: DeadNite on 30/11/2010 19:11:47
When the incursion hits Jita, I just want to be in a cloaky watching all the hilarity.

EDIT: They should drop an HQ level incursion right on top of it.


Launching an incursion on Jita would be like ****ing on an electrified hornets nest.

And the hornets are on fire.

Zaboth Garadath
Amarr
Ore Extraction Corporation
Posted - 2010.12.16 07:04:00 - [42]
 


Ranka Mei
Caldari
Posted - 2010.12.16 07:04:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: Glyken Touchon
Originally by: Anubis Assassin

I just got outta jita and it's so horrible right now...


gee- I wonder why its so busy. Could it be because most people have 6/7 figures worth of SP to put into new toys?

Its going to be very busy for a few days.


LOL. Finally someone who gets it. Duh. :)

-1 (+1 for a semi-funny troll, and -2 for the actual idea)

Zeb DaMadMiner
Interstellar Research Excavation Armada
Tri Sol Syndicate
Posted - 2010.12.16 12:10:00 - [44]
 

Don't worry, you forget.. After Incarna gets released, everybody will be too busy looking at their Exotic Dancer's to be hogging airspace. :D

Joss56
Gallente
Unleashed' Fury
Posted - 2010.12.16 12:19:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: Anubis Assassin
You're completely missing the point...


No he's not, you are the one who looks behind your miror teinted glasses and incapable to trade/craft/sell/scam/gank from any other system arount jita.

tsk tsk tsk

Laughing


Aerilis
Gallente
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Posted - 2010.12.16 13:41:00 - [46]
 

I support the concept behind this idea, but the idea that war targets can just hide there with no consequences is a little iffy... but then again, there's not much you can do in Jita besides trade. No missions, no belts... You could just camp Jita like you camp a station. Yeah, actually I think this is a good idea. Makes sense that in the super future there's a way for the police to make sure people don't fire missiles at each other in the middle of the biggest shopping mall in the universe.

Ris Dnalor
Minmatar
Fleet of Doom
Posted - 2010.12.16 20:51:00 - [47]
 

so... you want to give the Walmart door greeters fully automatic assault rifles eh?

WELCOME TO WALMART!

Berikath
Posted - 2010.12.16 22:19:00 - [48]
 

Real answer-

Change the definition of a "fully reinforced" node.

No longer does it mean a single node for a whole system. It now means a single node for one station (Jita 4-4).

Also, 4-4 has it's own local channel.

Then we have one node so your market transactions happen real quick, then a separate node so your hauler gets blown up real quick too!


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