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Anubis Assassin
Caldari
SandStorm.
The Babylon Consortium
Posted - 2010.11.30 18:41:00 - [1]
 

Jita is bad enough with all the people constantly in there. Why are we letting it be worse with the damn station campers ALWAYS outside of 4-4? Sansha obviously have a way to produce system wide effects. For RP purposes, give CONCORD a way to completely lock out weapons fire of any kind in Jita. If they wanna camp something, make them have to camp all the exit points from Jita. On the other side of the gates. OUT of Jita.

The only con I can think of would be people with active war-decs could hide in Jita. But it wouldn't really be any different than camping in a station elsewhere.

Pan Dora
Caldari
Organization for Nuclear Research
Posted - 2010.11.30 18:51:00 - [2]
 


New caldari have station also, you can eve play 0,01 ISK game there.

Buzz Killingdon
Posted - 2010.11.30 19:03:00 - [3]
 

boo-urns

I like it the way it is now. Why wouldn't they just lock out weapons in ALL 1.0 systems? Noone is safe, and that's alot more fun

Anubis Assassin
Caldari
SandStorm.
The Babylon Consortium
Posted - 2010.11.30 19:04:00 - [4]
 

You're completely missing the point...

Buzz Killingdon
Posted - 2010.11.30 19:07:00 - [5]
 

I think it is you who is missing the point.

You'd just be moving the lag to all exit points, except it would be worse. You're spreading Jita lag like a hot hooker with Syphilis. Don't be a hot hooker with Syphilis!!

DeadNite
Caldari
Detrimental Imperative
Posted - 2010.11.30 19:11:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: DeadNite on 30/11/2010 19:11:47
When the incursion hits Jita, I just want to be in a cloaky watching all the hilarity.

EDIT: They should drop an HQ level incursion right on top of it.

Anubis Assassin
Caldari
SandStorm.
The Babylon Consortium
Posted - 2010.11.30 23:38:00 - [7]
 

No... I think it is YOU who is missing the point. If you're going to make up ****, then explain it. How would making them all fan out to different gates make things worse?

a newbie
d o o m
Posted - 2010.11.30 23:57:00 - [8]
 

This topic should burn with the bodies now spreading across my windshield. XD

Well all kidding aside this would just turn EVE into WOW. No thank you. You can shoot anyone anywhere. The only price you pay is the repercussions for your actions if any. That is the way of EVE and making one system or even a few "safe" it just ruins the game. You want safety, get a few more friends.

Misanthra
Posted - 2010.12.01 00:21:00 - [9]
 

freighter...if the guys with guns scare you here is your solution. Just don't fly there with a war dec against you lol (NPC corp the pilot worst case).


Unless you buying carriers at 4-4 (like to see that by the way), you can fly it out packaged lol. Or courier contract a rigged bs ftw.




Glyken Touchon
Gallente
Independent Alchemists
Posted - 2010.12.01 00:56:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Glyken Touchon on 01/12/2010 00:56:32
Why Jita specifically? (and not other systems too?

Also, the reason that spreading out the lag woould be worse is that the Jita node is reinforced- it's neighbours aren't.

edit- clarification

Vardath
Posted - 2010.12.01 01:22:00 - [11]
 

jita is not the center of the universe

Flesh Slurper
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.12.01 01:34:00 - [12]
 

A terrible idea.

William Cooly
Sol Enterprises
Posted - 2010.12.01 02:05:00 - [13]
 

gb2wow

Win Master
Posted - 2010.12.01 02:18:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Anubis Assassin
Jita is bad enough with all the people constantly in there. Why are we letting it be worse with the damn station campers ALWAYS outside of 4-4? Sansha obviously have a way to produce system wide effects. For RP purposes, give CONCORD a way to completely lock out weapons fire of any kind in Jita. If they wanna camp something, make them have to camp all the exit points from Jita. On the other side of the gates. OUT of Jita.

The only con I can think of would be people with active war-decs could hide in Jita. But it wouldn't really be any different than camping in a station elsewhere.


Fail...

William Cooly
Sol Enterprises
Posted - 2010.12.01 02:24:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: William Cooly on 01/12/2010 02:24:26
So I went to search OP's lossmails because I was sure that he'd lost a ship to a gatecamp to come up with this QQ idea, and sure enough,
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=11274617
Alpha Arty Apocs.
Only odd thing is it's in Motsu, guess OP had his memories scrambled when his pod disconnected from his 1.1bil ship and thought he was in Jita.

Vespoi Filar
Posted - 2010.12.01 02:34:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: William Cooly
Edited by: William Cooly on 01/12/2010 02:24:26
So I went to search OP's lossmails because I was sure that he'd lost a ship to a gatecamp to come up with this QQ idea, and sure enough,
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=11274617
Alpha Arty Apocs.
Only odd thing is it's in Motsu, guess OP had his memories scrambled when his pod disconnected from his 1.1bil ship and thought he was in Jita.



That was over a month ago!

I wonder what his alt lost outside Jita 4-4 today?

William Cooly
Sol Enterprises
Posted - 2010.12.01 02:39:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: William Cooly on 01/12/2010 02:40:59
Originally by: Vespoi Filar
That was over a month ago!

Well now don't I look silly.
I should learn to read dates, thought 10 was November for some reason.
This is November, right? 11?

Also betting it was a Primae he spent 2bil on.

Anubis Assassin
Caldari
SandStorm.
The Babylon Consortium
Posted - 2010.12.01 04:01:00 - [18]
 

You guys can be some real dumbasses sometimes, I swear...

I haven't lost anything in Jita. It's a congested clusterf***. No pew pew in Jita and it wouldn't be nearly as bad. I've lost plenty of **** before, none of it in Jita either, doesn't matter.

So AGAIN, because apparently the same people posting here are the same ones from battleclinic (don't get me started...), you're missing the goddamn point.

It's not about being scared of pew pew, or QQ because calling people cry babies some how makes you feel better about yourselves. It's about clearing up Jita so it's not such a gang banging clusterf***.

William Cooly
Sol Enterprises
Posted - 2010.12.01 04:06:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Anubis Assassin
Horpdorp

I like how everyone in this topic disagrees with him but he still calls us all dumbasses.

I would redirect this thread but not worth it tbh.

This thread is dead, don't support it by not posting in it.

Anubis Assassin
Caldari
SandStorm.
The Babylon Consortium
Posted - 2010.12.01 04:09:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: William Cooly

I like how everyone in this topic disagrees with him but he still calls us all dumbasses.

I would redirect this thread but not worth it tbh.

This thread is dead, don't support it by not posting in it.


You mean besides the fact that none of you have actually posted anything intelligent or constructive?
Or the fact that you completely missed the point of the topic?

Don't have anything good to say other than trolling, please stfu and don't let the door hit your ass on the way out o/

Misanthra
Posted - 2010.12.01 06:02:00 - [21]
 

Somewhere in the mists of time...100's of players said lets make jita 4-4 a hub. Where there is commerce, there is gankers. Who stay there because sadly, muppets think its a good idea to run itty 5's all cargo extenders and no tank with 500mil worth of crap. Or get tricksy...and move 100 mil isk bpos or billions of isk in plex in t1 frigates (not even going for dramiel, which if fit and flown right you damn near need a bubble to catch or even a damn nano'd inty for a cheaper option).

And the privateers and orphans to kill war dec targets to natural select out the window lickers who haven't learned the ways of out of corp hauling alt.

Basically its not even the gankers and privateers fault jita is messed up....its the idiots who make sitting there for hours a day actually worthwhile. Want to fix jita...get with the idiots giving easy kills with 100 mil loot drops to keep the gankers wallet fat.

Alias 6322A
Posted - 2010.12.01 06:08:00 - [22]
 

Edited by: Alias 6322A on 01/12/2010 06:20:54
In all seriousness, locking weapons would be silly. EVE is a dog eats dog game and wardecs reach their pinnacle of usefulness in being able to pseudo-control trade hubs, adding a tactical element to starving your opponent.

That and the previous post hits dead on: idiots thinking they can just ship phat loot without a care in the world need to get with the program. Don't want gankers? Don't be gank-food. As for lag and such...trade hubs will forever have lag not only because of the ships, but the massive amounts of orders being placed in their stations and the huge quantities of items (which = server usage) being moved in a single system.

As a final note, don't trade at Jita. EVE is a game of choice, there are several other just as profitable hubs with less lag. That and, last I checked, how is lag a problem when as a trader all you do is warp and dock? Undock...cruise for a bit then align and warp, that easy. If you're referring to market lag, that's a whole different cookie.

EDIT: I like cookies.

Derth Ramir
Posted - 2010.12.01 06:10:00 - [23]
 

LOL You are the kind of person that is only happy when everyone agrees with you ,, yet when you see one sign of disagreement you blow them off as stupid or a troll or illogical. grow up ...

btw this is coming from a 14 year old

Tosi
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
Monocle Overlords
Posted - 2010.12.01 07:13:00 - [24]
 

Edited by: Tosi on 01/12/2010 07:15:29
Please give one spitout caldari station and turn 4-4 to such. i want my consensual pvp.

Originally by: Misanthra
(NPC corp the pilot worst case).


check.

Xorv
Posted - 2010.12.01 07:21:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Anubis Assassin
For RP purposes, give CONCORD a way to completely lock out weapons fire of any kind in Jita.


RP as in "roleplaying"? How does your proposal have anything to do with roleplaying? Your attempt to use roleplaying to justify your PvP nerf proposal both offends and confuses me as someone who has actually been a roleplayer in MMORPGs.

Gemberslaafje
Vivicide
Posted - 2010.12.01 08:29:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Anubis Assassin
You mean besides the fact that none of you have actually posted anything intelligent or constructive?
Or the fact that you completely missed the point of the topic?

Don't have anything good to say other than trolling, please stfu and don't let the door hit your ass on the way out o/


I think the point is mostly that only a handful of people who lost their alts yesterday would agree with you. Hell, I'm never in jita if I can help it, and I'm against it.

I also don't think it'll solve any problems. Few times I'm in jita, it was actually pretty stable lately. So why bother 'solving' that which is no problem to begin with? Let the wardeccers shoot, let the wannabe pirates suicide, and let WoW players play WoW.

Everyone happy, except for you.

Matrix Massim
Posted - 2010.12.01 08:50:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Vardath
jita is not the center of the universe


You arent a trader are you? YARRRR!!

Mag's
the united
Negative Ten.
Posted - 2010.12.01 09:05:00 - [28]
 

Can I take it from all the swearing, that the OP has failed?

Anyway, bad idea is bad.

Lemmy Kravitz
Minmatar
Rebirth.
Posted - 2010.12.01 09:32:00 - [29]
 

U mad bro?

KaiserSoze434
Posted - 2010.12.01 09:47:00 - [30]
 

Let me go ahead and shoot a truck sized hole in your lame suggestion. You think giving every candy ass in EVE ONE system where they can't get shot even while wardecced will DECREASE traffic there? Errors in thinking that big are not made accidentally. Sorry man, this idea is stupid. Maybe another game is for you.


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