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Mintchip
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.12.28 11:42:00 - [121]
 

Thank you for all your posts! I get a lot of mails and posts that are Actually VERY helpful in my endevours. I appreciate them to no end.

Also, No worries I ignore the trolls on the forums, because it's dumb and hypocritical to ask me to learn more about the game before i form an opinion and then the next second tell me what they think of me and who I am; when I know for CERTAIN no one here knows me at all. :)

Honestly, my opinion of Eve is consistently changing. I love it, I hate it, I enjoy the ride. I will keep those who are interested updated on that - and those who are not - not.

I game with 5 other females - and most of my friends in games are female. And anyone who has talked to me in game can tell you - I'm not very chit-chatty. I ask questions about eve, I read about eve. And I chat about eve before afking from chat to do my in-game eve stuff. If you msg me in game - I will respond, but I love advice more than anything :)

Princess Aricia
Gallente
Fairlight Corp
Rooks and Kings
Posted - 2010.12.30 18:04:00 - [122]
 

Edited by: Princess Aricia on 31/12/2010 08:47:13
Edit...

Promise her self to be nicer...

Sorry for replying your post

Happy New Year Smile

Mintchip
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.12.30 18:53:00 - [123]
 

Originally by: Princess Aricia
oh God... give me a break!
Who ever told you to post this should know better...
FAIL!

I have been playing eve since 2005, and yes, I'm a female player... so what you say is a bunch of ****, if you ask me.
You don't JUST have to run missions or kill someone in a gang..
You can trade, mine, kill ppl and so on, on your own.
And it's not just to use a ship, you need to know HOW to use it too...
You say you need over 300 days to sit in a titan... What about how to know how use it??

And another thing.. You say you do this to get "girls to play"... why do anyone want to play this game, after seeing you in this video?

I have to agree with "Jillaye" (on youtube): Girl "gamers" like these annoy me so much. Just shut the **** up

And showing WoW in the beginning of this ****... FAIL!!!

*rolles eyes*


I'm really sorry that you missed my point about the Titan. I was saying that "sitting" in a titan is not the same as flying it well. Pretty standard terminology. So I think we agree on that mark.

I don't see how my playing this game should have ANY INFLUENCE on anyone else playing the game. I'm aware I'm a ridiculous person - but I doubt I have enough power to actually stop someone from playing a game. If I were somehow able to do that - I think it would be more of a character flaw of the victim if anything. :P

Either way, I am definitely a gamer. I've played FPS, RTS, and many indie games as I've been growing up. Just because I started playing eve - doesn't mean I just started gaming. :S Although - that might be the term :)

Massive Dragon
Genos Occidere
Posted - 2010.12.30 19:07:00 - [124]
 

ladys, please... no need to fight.

theres enough of me to go 'round!

golan tosa
Posted - 2010.12.30 19:44:00 - [125]
 

intro song name anyone?

Mintchip
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.12.30 22:18:00 - [126]
 

Parov Stelar - Matilda :D

golan tosa
Posted - 2010.12.31 17:36:00 - [127]
 

thx

Rassja
The Partisan Brigade
Posted - 2011.01.19 01:30:00 - [128]
 

This is just someone else not "getting" eve - male/female doesnt really factor into it. This post is not meant as a flame, just explaining why I consider most of the OP's vid to be wrong - she's not looking at things the right way.


for your wow vs eve compairsion, I find that there is an infinite amount of things you can do in eve while WoW was boringly repetitive.

In Wow, there is:
Farming (timesink)
Dailies (See farming)
a couple BG's for honor (see farming)
a couple arena's (for arena points/rating farming)
a couple raids (see farming)
Gathering mats for crafting (see farming)
and finally, the joy of the next expansion invalidating EVERYTHING youve done for the last year.

In eve, there is:
Missions
Research
Manufacture
Mining
Marketing
Hauling
Scouting
Pos
PI
Courier
Fitting
Diplomacy
Politics
Dozens of ways to PVP
Scouting
Intelligence (in the military sense)
Wormholes
Anomalies
Complex's
R&D
...and the list goes on - and I almost NEVER feel like im grinding for no purpose like I did in WoW. Anything you gain in Eve is perfectly useful year after year, and if you loose it its your own fault and part of the game (in fact, the ability to inflict losses what what first caught my attention about eve)

Ive heard the "Impersonal" argument a few times before as well. Hard to relate to a ship? (I think many sailors back on ancient earth would take offense at that comment) Possibly so, yet knowing the same people for years on end in EvE, or understanding the ongoing plots, plots that thousands of PLAYERS get involved with in an active way (Karishal Muritor plotline, for example?) rather than simply watching a pre-determined script. Your reputation in EVE preceeds you anywhere you go - If youve existed actively for a year or more, most major alliances will be able to dig up your past. You can call on old freinds for help - or be sure of the hatred a certain hostile has held against you for years.

Wow was much more "impersonal" than eve - your just another faceless RaceClassSpec with TeirX Gear in the BG that your enemies cant talk to and your allies wont bother to get to know fighting a predetermined unwinnable war against people simply because they rolled a diffrent race than you. In eve, when I shoot someone, I have a made a choice, based on a reason, to do so - and I know if I hit them hard enough for long enough, the war can be WON.

In Eve, your char can do anything you decide to do. In wow, you have ONE skillset. With a slight variation with the amazing introduction of having 2 spec's saved. In Eve, I have 50 fit ships in my hanger filling over a dozen roles - even a couple ships tailor built to overcome certain opponents.

When your a veteren in eve, people know you and what you stand for, and you've earned peoples trust and respect. Skillpoints matter to some degree, but vastly more important is the player behind the toon.
When your a veteren in WoW, people still dont care about you. If anything, they whine at how unfair it is that you have better gear than them, or that your class is OP. They never stop to even consider the player behind the toon.

Which is truly more impersonal?

Suboran
Gallente
Best Path Inc.
Cascade Imminent
Posted - 2011.01.19 02:10:00 - [129]
 

eve is dominated by men, good or bad it doesnt matter.

The best thing you can do is joining a corp with large variety of activities, including pvp.

Mintchip
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.01.19 07:55:00 - [130]
 

I agree, I think eve is what you make of it. I also believe that's how it is with all video games. It's what you make of it. Wow or Eve alike. Both can be very enjoyable.

After playing eve a while now - and learning more. I still agree with myself for the most part. My terminology is a little off but - I'm trying to stay objective. I know a lot of people in eve can see the differences. Without it being "oh if you say these things are different from wow - you must be insulting eve!" - which is silly.

FLY SAFE!

XCloudimus
Gallente
Russian SOBR
SOLAR FLEET
Posted - 2011.01.19 09:09:00 - [131]
 

The main reason that ppl play EVE is that it is more realistic in certain situations than in WOW(like your ship was destroyed), I think you mentioned that in one of your youtube videos. Sandbox and supermultional functionality gives you the opportunity to have very big amount of play style. So girls :D, take some Jack daniels (my fav.), sit down, train hulk and relax :DDD.

XCloudimus
Gallente
Russian SOBR
SOLAR FLEET
Posted - 2011.01.19 09:20:00 - [132]
 

By the way - Parov Stelar - Matilda - Good one :P
Велком ту Ив

Evansithe
Posted - 2011.01.19 09:32:00 - [133]
 

I really don't think you approached this video in the right way. There's grinding in every MMO. There's grinding in pokemon, for god's sake.

I saw other people mention on your youtube comments area that Titan's are ships that corporations use, and even then only rarely. This is a fair point. What the hell is an individual going to want with a titan? Why did you set your goal so high in the first place? Why didn't you think of moving up through the ranks and the good thing that each new ship brings the character rather than attempting to power-level your way to the biggest ship? Really, your scope was incredibly limited, 'only run missions'? The tutorial might not spoon feed you everything there is to do, but that doesn't mean you can say that the game is *only* running missions. You should have done a bit more looking into what the game has to offer (Here on the forums would've been a good place) before you made that video, because it makes you look like you played the game for a week and got sick of it.

It's just not a very well thought-out video.

Ak'athra J'ador
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
Posted - 2011.01.19 10:04:00 - [134]
 

holy **** there is actually a similarity between you and your avatar...

Etro Tanar
Posted - 2011.01.19 12:27:00 - [135]
 

Edited by: Etro Tanar on 19/01/2011 12:28:08
So basically, you're trying to seek attention by making a video about you being a girl that plays EVE. Cool story is best story.

I guess being a girl is handy in a game like EVE, where guys will trip over themselves to help an "RL girl". Personally, I don't really care for your gender. If a male posted this sort of thread, it wouldn't have got any serious attention and he would have been laughed out of EVE.

So, basically you only got help because of what is between your legs.

Also, your character portrait makes mine look sexy.

tl;dr version: This smells of "I'm a girl, look at me and give me stuff *teeheeheegiggle*".

samvital
RETRIBUTIONS.
Legion of The Damned.
Posted - 2011.01.20 11:01:00 - [136]
 

Welcome to eve, always good to have some girls.

Golden Wench
Posted - 2011.01.20 11:15:00 - [137]
 

Girls that play eve rock.. aka ME lol.... Right time to clean my house during downtime..

ps, it is nice knowing theres quite a few fems out there

Eelis Kiy
Gallente
Shadows Of The Federation
ShadowWolves.net
Posted - 2011.01.20 12:11:00 - [138]
 

Edited by: Eelis Kiy on 20/01/2011 12:17:47



Originally by: Golden Wench
Girls that play eve rock.. aka ME lol.... Right time to clean my house during downtime..





lol I just hoovered and now Iím off to make cookies +_+


Most mmos are still dominated by men and most sci-fi types of thing are more popular with guys than with girls, so it's no surprise that more guys play Eve than girls. It's just simple math really. And for all the women that try Eve and don't "get it" or cannot cope without a constant instant-gratification type of gaming there are a lot more men who go through the same thing.

Also the "5% of the player base is female" figure that is bandied about a lot is VERY out of date and inaccurate. For example, CCP has no way of knowing that I am female. My account info lists me as male. My other half set-up and paid for my account in an effort to entice me away from other mmos and get me into Eve. It worked, but my account still lists me as male. I suspect there might be similar miss-information for other people's wives/girlfriends/sisters/(mothers?!) especially where the male party is paying for the account.


I really enjoyed reading this post on freebooted about his attempts at getting his sister to play eve: http://freebooted.blogspot.com/2011/01/my-sister-rookie-trial-period-part-one.html.

Also, not sure if its linked in here already but check out CK's blog banter on just this topic:
http://www.crazykinux.com/2010/04/for-ladies-of-new-eden-and-ones-to-come.html








GENERAL EMILIO
Posted - 2011.01.20 14:29:00 - [139]
 

Originally by: Golden Wench
Girls that play eve rock.. aka ME lol.... Right time to clean my house during downtime..

ps, it is nice knowing theres quite a few fems out there


Get back in the kitchen!

Golden Wench
Posted - 2011.01.20 16:50:00 - [140]
 

Originally by: GENERAL EMILIO
Originally by: Golden Wench
Girls that play eve rock.. aka ME lol.... Right time to clean my house during downtime..

ps, it is nice knowing theres quite a few fems out there


Get back in the kitchen!


Oooo that was harsh.. that hit me like a thousand knives.. how about nahhhh lol

Mintchip
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.01.20 20:03:00 - [141]
 

Eve is probably the only game where insulting women is actually still current.

Etro Tanar
Posted - 2011.01.20 22:03:00 - [142]
 

Insulting women? More like insulting everyone out there, regardless of race, gender or religion.

This thread still cracks me up, "girl gamers". Hahahaha, oh god. Trying to make yourself seem special because you're a girl and play games is so 2008. Plenty of girls play Eve, a lot of the ones I know think this thread is as stupid and demeaning for women in Eve as I do.

Yes, you're women. No one really cares. Welcome to gender equality 101.

Viribus
Broski Enterprises
Elite Space Guild
Posted - 2011.01.21 07:38:00 - [143]
 

This thread is so terrible it's enough to drive a man to biomass IRL

Golden Wench
Posted - 2011.01.21 08:37:00 - [144]
 

Originally by: Etro Tanar
Insulting women? More like insulting everyone out there, regardless of race, gender or religion.

This thread still cracks me up, "girl gamers". Hahahaha, oh god. Trying to make yourself seem special because you're a girl and play games is so 2008. Plenty of girls play Eve, a lot of the ones I know think this thread is as stupid and demeaning for women in Eve as I do.

Yes, you're women. No one really cares. Welcome to gender equality 101.


well you cared enough to comment

Im just sayin!!

Mintchip
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.01.21 09:36:00 - [145]
 

Originally by: Etro Tanar
Insulting women? More like insulting everyone out there, regardless of race, gender or religion.

This thread still cracks me up, "girl gamers". Hahahaha, oh god. Trying to make yourself seem special because you're a girl and play games is so 2008. Plenty of girls play Eve, a lot of the ones I know think this thread is as stupid and demeaning for women in Eve as I do.

Yes, you're women. No one really cares. Welcome to gender equality 101.


I figure this is just a troll. So - Pretending you have friends who are girls AND that they AGREE with you, is just too much. I can't believe anything you said after reading that.

<333

XCloudimus
Gallente
Russian SOBR
SOLAR FLEET
Posted - 2011.01.21 12:17:00 - [146]
 

Edited by: XCloudimus on 21/01/2011 12:18:05
There is always someone that aggroess everyone and there is always who will aggro back at him. =)
2 Mintchip: get a good home, the EVE is very big and there are many opportunities here, but most of the Good times makes people around you and it's very important to find ones that will be friendly.
2 Etro Tanar: maan, if you don't care about the gender, go make your hand happy, Yes, men will help her because of the thing under her legs, what do you care about? :DDD you're so interested in this topic lol that you aggro everyone here :DDDDDD, go farm some isk!

Forget the freakn oppinions, everyone is expressing feelings in the way that he wants, someone has big balls on killboard, some of them can say ( I have 94 chars and 45 titans buhaha!)... But some make videos to gain some help, advice, info, friends, whatever.

That's silly... the only thing is that we have the sandbox =), we are all together!
Respect each other (sory for my terrible language, I'm russian after all)

TimMc
Brutal Deliverance
Gypsy Band
Posted - 2011.01.21 14:22:00 - [147]
 

Yep this thread is still hilarious. Very Happy

Best of luck in eve anyway mintchip. Sounds like your getting alot of help.

Karbowiak
Sniggerdly
Posted - 2011.01.21 18:10:00 - [148]
 

Lets all hope this brings more girls to EVE, **** knows i wouldn't mind it.
Eventho i still get amazed whenever i hear a female voice on Vent/TS/Mumble, lol

Evansithe
Posted - 2011.01.22 06:35:00 - [149]
 

Edited by: Evansithe on 22/01/2011 06:41:27
Originally by: Mintchip
Originally by: Etro Tanar
Insulting women? More like insulting everyone out there, regardless of race, gender or religion.

This thread still cracks me up, "girl gamers". Hahahaha, oh god. Trying to make yourself seem special because you're a girl and play games is so 2008. Plenty of girls play Eve, a lot of the ones I know think this thread is as stupid and demeaning for women in Eve as I do.

Yes, you're women. No one really cares. Welcome to gender equality 101.


I figure this is just a troll. So - Pretending you have friends who are girls AND that they AGREE with you, is just too much. I can't believe anything you said after reading that.

<333


Hi, I'm that "Trolls" girlfriend. And I agree with him.

You're a silly little bint who thinks she's special for playing video games.

Get over yourself.

Oh and post script: I wouldn't be caught dead admitting to play WoW, and I wouldn't be stupid enough to compare a fantasy RPG with a SCI FI game. You really do prove how dense you are when you're making constant. CONSTANT. CONSTANT comparisons to WoW. It ISN'T WoW, now if you don't like it, take your saggy ass back to World of Walking and leave EVE to the grown ups.

Evansithe
Posted - 2011.01.22 06:48:00 - [150]
 

Originally by: XCloudimus
Edited by: XCloudimus on 21/01/2011 12:18:05

2 Etro Tanar: maan, if you don't care about the gender, go make your hand happy, Yes, men will help her because of the thing under her legs, what do you care about? :DDD you're so interested in this topic lol that you aggro everyone here :DDDDDD, go farm some isk!


Unless the anatomy between my legs counts as a hand, that won't be the thing making him happy, darling.


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