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Templar Nato
Unlawful Combatants
Posted - 2011.02.22 20:18:00 - [451]
 

Originally by: Aleksandra Esten
Edited by: Aleksandra Esten on 22/02/2011 19:05:59
Why have you included lower ships and newer players in your suicide targets?



Because we're generally lazy and can't be bothered sorting out 'bad' miners from 'good' ones. The highest degree of cerebral activity involved when I pick targets is usually, "Oh look, a miner dumb enough to be out during Hulkageddon. KILL THEM".

That being said, we generally pick hulks since it's the highest ISK for sec ratio we can hit, but that's not going to stop trigger happy boredom from getting a few noobs in retrievers popped.

Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Defenders of Pen Island
Posted - 2011.02.22 20:47:00 - [452]
 

Originally by: Aleksandra Esten

This is not a whine, it is just a question to Helicity and all the other HAG'ers:

Why have you included lower ships and newer players in your suicide targets?



We have always included them. it's just that for prizes it's exhumers that count etc. Since they were getting popped (along with haulers) I decided to just allow them all for the main prizes; afterall we're measuring who can wreak the most destruction here :)

(side note: retrievers can, and have been seen to, be bots as well)


Zwyggy Zythum
Posted - 2011.02.22 21:33:00 - [453]
 

Where are all the hatemails being posted? I'd love to read them.

Duna dan
Posted - 2011.02.22 21:51:00 - [454]
 

Edited by: Duna dan on 22/02/2011 21:51:55
The prize list linked in the original post of this thread is not the updated list.
http://hulkageddon4.machine9.net/?page_id=53

And I guess 1b isk is too small a prize to tempt pirates to venture into 00 space Confused

AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
Posted - 2011.02.22 23:55:00 - [455]
 

Originally by: Zwyggy Zythum
Where are all the hatemails being posted? I'd love to read them.


Here's one:

I'm sitting in my Hulk in a belt in Tsuguwa right now with a pirate 500m off of me in a battlecruiser. He is flipping my cans. Now I have to dock instead of letting my Itty V pick up my ore. I am so sad.

Signed,

JC Ferguson

P.S. LOL @ Codebandit

Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
Black Sun Alliance
Posted - 2011.02.23 00:48:00 - [456]
 

Quote:
(side note: retrievers can, and have been seen to, be bots as well)


ha. so have ravens and drakes.

Alotta Baggage
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
Posted - 2011.02.23 03:19:00 - [457]
 

Originally by: Barbara Nichole
Quote:
(side note: retrievers can, and have been seen to, be bots as well)


ha. so have ravens and drakes.


And Canes and polaris frigs! Shocked

Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Defenders of Pen Island
Posted - 2011.02.23 07:59:00 - [458]
 

We're merrily plodding along, kill rate is about on par with the previous winter hulkageddon (which is not as busy as the summer edition, when everyone is off work).

I'd like to point out there are still many achievements up for grabs! Check out the prizes page on the hulkageddon site, and you may find achievements that have not been obtained/have few kills thusfar! If you're clever you could snatch up some nice prizes by picking your targets and locations carefully!


Kizz Amarr
Amarr
Posted - 2011.02.23 09:10:00 - [459]
 

Originally by: Helicity Boson
We're merrily plodding along, ......



This morning, as a watery sun rose above the grey leaden skies of eastern England and a chill wind squirreled about the shoulders of those running for their trains to the office in the city, news was breaking of disasters worldwide, not the least of which, as was revealed in a picky scabbing indictment to testosterone tumultuousness, it read 2072 ships killed (144.24 Billion Isk)

The shareholders have lost control of their income generating baby, and while it farts Isks about in a wild and spasmodic manner, prizes are being laundered like nothing seen since the grey steeled submarines had claimed an early victory in the North Atlantic, or the cod farmers had brought to bear great gun ships to declare the waters around Iceland are safe for normal fisherman in the acceptance of their right to fish the dangerous stormy seas.

It amazes me how much control that you have over the game platform, the game mechanics are being stretched by your cathodic scheme to wreak havoc amongst those who choose to play a different gamestyle, yet there seems to be nothing except support from CCP for your actions.

I tip my cap to you.

NNNN




Sarabearrah
Caldari
Posted - 2011.02.23 10:25:00 - [460]
 

I hope hulk hunters come to ouraininen or spelled something like that. There are at least 10 macros there running 23/7

Brusanan
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
Posted - 2011.02.23 11:19:00 - [461]
 

The Hulkageddon killboard doesn't seem to be updating. The last registered kill is from 21:27 Tuesday.

Zedrik Cayne
Gallente
Standards and Practices
Posted - 2011.02.23 12:48:00 - [462]
 

Originally by: Brusanan
The Hulkageddon killboard doesn't seem to be updating. The last registered kill is from 21:27 Tuesday.


Thank you for noticing, I'm just awake over here on the east coast USA...looks like something got stuck...big-red-button of punch killboard in head has been pushed and updates are occurring again.

Although I see what may be happenning...we seem to have acquired some anti-macro folks in Ingunn recently. And the initial update of their API was slowing things down. I expect the number of industrial ships killed to take a significant leap.

Scarry Peak
Posted - 2011.02.23 14:20:00 - [463]
 

Seriously - what are the freaking odds. I have a day off to "queue" on the interwebz for some sporting event tix.
I get them after a couple of hours ... I settle down for some Eve and to jump into my scouting ship and join the gang as I've done a couple of times in past events (my hulk is safely docked away and I get to play sneaky git instead)...
I get collared by some complete PITA from my early days who is no less irritating than he was back then.
AND THEN... hamsters escape and no Eve until further notice! Mehhhhhh!

But where have all the tear-mails gone? I clicked on a link in the website and it just brought me to the C&P main thread? There must be some real gooduns by now?

Nathan Jameson
Talocan Vanguard
Talocan United
Posted - 2011.02.23 14:52:00 - [464]
 

Originally by: Scarry Peak
But where have all the tear-mails gone? I clicked on a link in the website and it just brought me to the C&P main thread? There must be some real gooduns by now?


Yeah, but sadly the best poster of those is banned now. Confused

Marconus Orion
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2011.02.23 16:38:00 - [465]
 

276 Industrials down, keep it coming people! Twisted Evil

Sarabearrah
Caldari
Posted - 2011.02.23 17:35:00 - [466]
 

8 to 10 hulks in ouraninen BUT they have moved over one system to Tsukuras.

Go get um...

I was in HAG4 chat and no one seemed interested even though I was in the belt and scanned these hulks for all to wack

Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Defenders of Pen Island
Posted - 2011.02.23 21:13:00 - [467]
 

Originally by: Sarabearrah
8 to 10 hulks in ouraninen BUT they have moved over one system to Tsukuras.

Go get um...

I was in HAG4 chat and no one seemed interested even though I was in the belt and scanned these hulks for all to wack



This will be dealt with.


Double Dee
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2011.02.24 03:09:00 - [468]
 

you know i don't get you people. don't you understand we are the reason you have cheap ships to fly? what part of your brain is that messed up where you can't comprehend this?! without us, you don't exist!

so prepare to reap the the world wind morons! your ship prices are going to skyrocket because of you inability to do real pvp. "oh man, why is all the ships so expensive now?" thats because you went full ****** and shot the people who mined what is needed to build them and now there is a shortage of minerals you ****ing idiots!

all you are doing is hurting yourself!

Suiginryou Hitaiga
Caldari
Posted - 2011.02.24 03:21:00 - [469]
 

Originally by: Double Dee
you know i don't get you people. don't you understand we are the reason you have cheap ships to fly? what part of your brain is that messed up where you can't comprehend this?! without us, you don't exist!

so prepare to reap the the world wind morons! your ship prices are going to skyrocket because of you inability to do real pvp. "oh man, why is all the ships so expensive now?" thats because you went full ****** and shot the people who mined what is needed to build them and now there is a shortage of minerals you ****ing idiots!

all you are doing is hurting yourself!


Don't waste your breath. People who organize the "event" have a few billion isks to spend on candy, so they don't care much about prices going a few times higher; others may do not, but thinking about others (positively) is not a widespread custom in eve. What's worse is that most honest miners resort to bots, sooner or later. Not because it can earn a ton of isk, but just because it saves the trouble of survival during genocides.

Dian'h Might
Minmatar
Cash and Cargo Liberators Incorporated
Posted - 2011.02.24 03:59:00 - [470]
 

This understanding econ fail was too good to pass up

Originally by: Double Dee
so prepare to reap the the world wind morons!
It's "whirlwind"

Originally by: Double Dee
your ship prices are going to skyrocket
At most there will be a small blip of a 5% increase, and likely caused by speculation rather than lack of minerals (check the market graphs from previous hulkageddons)
Originally by: Double Dee
because of you inability to do real pvp.
If by "real pvp" you mean a giant blob of mindless drones in nullsec, then yes.

Originally by: Double Dee
"oh man, why is all the ships so expensive now?" thats because you went full ****** and shot the people who mined what is needed to build them and now there is a shortage of minerals you ****ing idiots!
A very high percent (I cba to lookup the devblog on it) all minerals come from refined mission loot. On top of that, the impact on the mining yeild is going to be a small percent of that (all mining has not come to a halt). Furthermore, the cost of raw ore is only a percentage of a ships total cost.

Any dip in the production of ore will be smoothed out by speculators selling stockpiled ore (they had nearly 3 months to save it up).

Originally by: Double Dee
all you are doing is hurting yourself!
In the event the price of ore does skyrocket and make mining no longer the absolute least profitable activity in eve besides ship spinning, I suspect a lot of people (including hulkageddon participants) will go out and mine (I'd do it if it payed 40m/hour like missions do) until the price of ore drops to previous levels and mining again becomes the least profitable activity in eve.

Kengutsi Akira
Posted - 2011.02.24 04:47:00 - [471]
 

Originally by: Helicity Boson
We're merrily plodding along, kill rate is about on par with the previous winter hulkageddon (which is not as busy as the summer edition, when everyone is off work).

I'd like to point out there are still many achievements up for grabs! Check out the prizes page on the hulkageddon site, and you may find achievements that have not been obtained/have few kills thusfar! If you're clever you could snatch up some nice prizes by picking your targets and locations carefully!




Hey you gonna do it twice a year?
Thatd be cool! Do a summer one too, but expand the scope to mission runners too

Suiginryou Hitaiga
Caldari
Posted - 2011.02.24 04:48:00 - [472]
 

Originally by: Kengutsi Akira
Thatd be cool! Do a summer one too, but expand the scope to mission runners too

I imagine the growth of botters' numbers then...

Kengutsi Akira
Posted - 2011.02.24 04:51:00 - [473]
 

Originally by: Suiginryou Hitaiga
Originally by: Kengutsi Akira
Thatd be cool! Do a summer one too, but expand the scope to mission runners too

I imagine the growth of botters' numbers then...


Wait.. I thought they gave up on pretending they were doing it to kill botters?
Hell if youre still going with that line, get with the EVE24 guys, they gave a huge database of bots names and locations

Suiginryou Hitaiga
Caldari
Posted - 2011.02.24 04:59:00 - [474]
 

Originally by: Kengutsi Akira
Wait.. I thought they gave up on pretending they were doing it to kill botters?

Yes, long ago. What I'm pointing out is that they are actually breeding more botters now.

Brusanan
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
Posted - 2011.02.24 05:05:00 - [475]
 

Originally by: Suiginryou Hitaiga
Originally by: Kengutsi Akira
Wait.. I thought they gave up on pretending they were doing it to kill botters?

Yes, long ago. What I'm pointing out is that they are actually breeding more botters now.

Sweet. More people to kill next Hulkageddon. Bring it on. YARRRR!!

Seriously, support your twisted logic or GTFO.

Svipull
Posted - 2011.02.24 10:23:00 - [476]
 

Originally by: Suiginryou Hitaiga
Originally by: Kengutsi Akira
Wait.. I thought they gave up on pretending they were doing it to kill botters?

Yes, long ago. What I'm pointing out is that they are actually breeding more botters now.


Hi,

my ALT was a scholar of JohnBe - some time ago, so I support : Delphina Amaranthus, Alotta Baggage, Jebediah Shaft, Caldariftw123, Peppa Hekki and her promotors, Kara Kugisa and others who think in this direction. [ although some of them are not Minmatar or Gallente :-) ]

At present I have the strict order to wait in my FENRIR and not to undock before the end of this event. So I lose at least another week.

I understand that CCP/EVE has some problems with auto-miners.
I advise for the following : Do some thinking (helps anyway), some what / if :

a) only light mining equipment is allowed in HiSec, take both views:
I) from the miners ship
II) from the asteroid
b) mining barges are restricted from HiSec
c) many more ideas

I see beautiful developments in EVE like the raise of the eyebrow of this Avatar, when creating it. I want more of that and Aura's voice, of course.

Towards my fellow supporters, the following helps = AE said: "The superiorty of the stupid is overwhelming and assured for all times."

Have a nice day.

Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Defenders of Pen Island
Posted - 2011.02.24 10:53:00 - [477]
 

Originally by: Suiginryou Hitaiga
Originally by: Kengutsi Akira
Wait.. I thought they gave up on pretending they were doing it to kill botters?

Yes, long ago. What I'm pointing out is that they are actually breeding more botters now.


I love your incredibly flawed logic. You're like a man watching a cow walk past a hole in a fence, and then concluding: "The nose causes the tail".


Zavulon Sukkot
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
Posted - 2011.02.24 11:30:00 - [478]
 

Edited by: Zavulon Sukkot on 24/02/2011 11:34:43
The hurr is strong in me. API updated right after I posted.

Svipull
Posted - 2011.02.24 12:45:00 - [479]
 

Originally by: Helicity Boson
Originally by: Suiginryou Hitaiga
Originally by: Kengutsi Akira
Wait.. I thought they gave up on pretending they were doing it to kill botters?

Yes, long ago. What I'm pointing out is that they are actually breeding more botters now.


I love your incredibly flawed logic. You're like a man watching a cow walk past a hole in a fence, and then concluding: "The nose causes the tail".




Dear Madam,

I expected your answer because you have to defend your position.

I keep in mind, we're discussing about little programs !

CCP decides to some extent - even in a sandbox - what is possible and what is not. If you want a solution other than this, than that will happen. If you have a problem with autominers, which disrupt your system and your system internal economy, then there will always be various ways to solve them. One is the actual, which I hate, but would to some extent understand, regarding Mining-Barges.

The shooting at haulers in HiSec - I can't understand.

So, why not try for a simple answer here.

Yours sincerely

Miss Rabblt
Posted - 2011.02.24 15:06:00 - [480]
 

go, kiddos! go!Very Happy


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