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Vogue
Short Bus Pole Dancers
Posted - 2010.11.28 20:53:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Vogue on 28/11/2010 20:55:24
UK Guardian - US embassy cables database Wikileaks has given the Guardian a dump of 250,000 US embassy cables given to Wikileaks.

It is up to individuals to decide on the validity of this disclosure by wikileaks. If true there is some saucy revelations including US opinions of world leaders. Most of which I have read are not that unreasonable. But not something they would say in public what with boring diplomatic respect.

But as well as opinions there is a lot of clandestine spying reported that is well - spooky.

/Eating freedom fries nom nom nom

Culmen
Caldari
Culmenation
Posted - 2010.11.28 20:58:00 - [2]
 

I'd be a lot more sympathetic to wiki leaks if the creator wasn't such a douche bag.

That being said, not a whole lot released that wasn't obvious.

What country DOESN'T have it's embassies spying?

Vogue
Short Bus Pole Dancers
Posted - 2010.11.28 21:17:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Vogue on 28/11/2010 21:23:17
I wonder if Wikileaks would ever stumble upon stuff to do with US government accounts of aliens. There is of course so much hyperbole with this. But Barry Goldwater an eminent politician in his day got a sharp rebuttal for asking about this:-

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The April 25, 1988 issue of The New Yorker carried an interview where Goldwater said he repeatedly asked his friend, Gen. Curtis LeMay, if there was any truth to the rumors that UFO evidence was stored in a secret room at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, and if he (Goldwater) might have access to the room. According to Goldwater, an angry LeMay gave him "holy hell" and said, "Not only can't you get into it but don't you ever mention it to me again."[62] In a 1988 interview on Larry King's radio show, Goldwater was asked if he thought the U.S. Government was withholding UFO evidence; he replied "Yes, I do." He added:

I certainly believe in aliens in space. They may not look like us, but I have very strong feelings that they have advanced beyond our mental capabilities....I think some highly secret government UFO investigations are going on that we don't know about and probably never will unless the Air Force discloses them.


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hired goon
Posted - 2010.11.28 21:26:00 - [4]
 

Yeah, Gary McKinnon should threaten to give everything he found to wikileaks if the US Govt doesn't stop seeking his extradition.

Mag's
the united
Negative Ten.
Posted - 2010.11.28 21:31:00 - [5]
 

Because it's strange that people say things in private, that they don't say in public. The whole thing's a joke tbh.

Soma Khan
Caldari
Posted - 2010.11.28 21:37:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Culmen
I'd be a lot more sympathetic to wiki leaks if the creator wasn't such a douche bag.
youre a bigger douche if your opinion of disclosed material depends on how much of a douche the wikileaks creator is or is not

Culmen
Caldari
Culmenation
Posted - 2010.11.28 21:50:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Culmen on 28/11/2010 21:50:32
Originally by: Soma Khan
Originally by: Culmen
I'd be a lot more sympathetic to wiki leaks if the creator wasn't such a douche bag.
youre a bigger douche if your opinion of disclosed material depends on how much of a douche the wikileaks creator is or is not


I just so happen to consider giving the names of Taliban informants to be the height of Doucebaggery.

Nothing says I am a Douche like pointlessly risking somebodies life.

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2010.11.28 22:22:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Culmen
Edited by: Culmen on 28/11/2010 21:50:32
Originally by: Soma Khan
Originally by: Culmen
I'd be a lot more sympathetic to wiki leaks if the creator wasn't such a douche bag.
youre a bigger douche if your opinion of disclosed material depends on how much of a douche the wikileaks creator is or is not


I just so happen to consider giving the names of Taliban informants to be the height of Doucebaggery.

Nothing says I am a Douche like pointlessly risking somebodies life.


It's the major league of trolling Shocked

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2010.11.28 22:26:00 - [9]
 

I seem to recall certain government spokespersons saying that the innocent have nothing to hide, so I dont see how this can be any kind of problem.

Nyu Shin
Posted - 2010.11.28 23:02:00 - [10]
 



"Wikileaks began on Sunday November 28th publishing 251,287 leaked United States embassy cables, the largest set of confidential documents ever to be released into the public domain. The documents will give people around the world an unprecedented insight into US Government foreign activities."

cablegate


Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
Posted - 2010.11.28 23:25:00 - [11]
 

Meh, wake me up when it's Gategate.

Louis deGuerre
Gallente
Malevolence.
Posted - 2010.11.29 00:50:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Louis deGuerre on 29/11/2010 00:52:12
Originally by: Nyu Shin


"Wikileaks began on Sunday November 28th publishing 251,287 leaked United States embassy cables, the largest set of confidential documents ever to be released into the public domain. The documents will give people around the world an unprecedented insight into US Government foreign activities."

cablegate




TL;DR 251,287 cables lol
Executive summary :
Cables state the obvious about many world leaders...that they're a bunch of ****s. (sjeez filter, I can't say **** ?. Okay, idiots ? ******s ? anti-social swine ? let's see what gets trough the filter) Razz
And now we're all going to pretend they didn't mean it when it was written. ugh
As everyone will pretend nothing had happened this will blow over fast.

Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
Posted - 2010.11.29 00:56:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Malcanis
I seem to recall certain government spokespersons saying that the innocent have nothing to hide, so I dont see how this can be any kind of problem.


Holding up pragmatic reality to an ideal?

Cikulisuy
Amarr
Viziam
Posted - 2010.11.29 01:00:00 - [14]
 

they are innocent, rite. nothing to hide, nothing to hide~~~


assange's game is the epitome of trolling, though.

Vogue
Short Bus Pole Dancers
Posted - 2010.11.29 01:01:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: Vogue on 29/11/2010 01:01:52
So far the most entertaining revelation for me is Gaddafi who is described as 'just strange' Cool

Grimpak
Gallente
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
Posted - 2010.11.29 01:41:00 - [16]
 

so, the US embassy cables reveal that mankind is just what it is: a melting pot of bigotry.


colour me surprisedRolling Eyes

Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente
Sigma Special Tactics Group
Posted - 2010.11.29 03:22:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Malcanis
I seem to recall certain government spokespersons saying that the innocent have nothing to hide, so I dont see how this can be any kind of problem.


Yeah I been shoving that "hey if you have nothing to hide you got nothing to worry about" crap up the noses of many statists I know.

What's worse is that Wikileaks gives the US government a chance to look through the documents and redact names or anything pertaining to any person yet they never reply to the offer.

Then they complain about these risks.

And yes Assange is also a doosh bag and probably of the highest order but this doosh is throwing vinegar on a real "vag" of a country that needs the treatment.


Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente
Sigma Special Tactics Group
Posted - 2010.11.29 03:25:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Louis deGuerre
Edited by: Louis deGuerre on 29/11/2010 00:52:12
Originally by: Nyu Shin


"Wikileaks began on Sunday November 28th publishing 251,287 leaked United States embassy cables, the largest set of confidential documents ever to be released into the public domain. The documents will give people around the world an unprecedented insight into US Government foreign activities."

cablegate




TL;DR 251,287 cables lol
Executive summary :
Cables state the obvious about many world leaders...that they're a bunch of ****s. (sjeez filter, I can't say **** ?. Okay, idiots ? ******s ? anti-social swine ? let's see what gets trough the filter) Razz
And now we're all going to pretend they didn't mean it when it was written. ugh
As everyone will pretend nothing had happened this will blow over fast.



The American public has the attention span of a gnat. This release will result in NOTHING changing.


Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2010.11.29 03:30:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Herzog Wolfhammer


The American public has the attention span of a gnat. This release will result in NOTHING changing.




Now I don't believe that's entir oh look a bird Shocked

Bhaal
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2010.11.29 03:36:00 - [20]
 

Ya know what, most ppl don't care about Wikileaks or the dork who runs it...

Only thing I find interesting is pretty much everyone hates Iran, even all of their neighbors. Some of whom would like nothing more than to have the USA wipe them off the planet, and then publically state how wrong the USA was for doing so.

Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
Posted - 2010.11.29 03:38:00 - [21]
 

Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 29/11/2010 03:41:18
Originally by: Vogue
I certainly believe in aliens in space. They may not look like us, but I have very strong feelings that they have advanced beyond our mental capabilities....I think some highly secret government UFO investigations are going on that we don't know about and probably never will unless the Air Force discloses them.


You might be interested in looking into this.

Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
Posted - 2010.11.29 04:21:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Bhaal
... USA wipe them off the planet, and then publically state how wrong the USA was for doing so.


USA, scape goat of moral convenience whiners since 1914.

Sergeant Spot
Galactic Geographic BookMark Surveying Inc.
Posted - 2010.11.29 05:04:00 - [23]
 

I'll take Wikileaks a little more seriously when they put as much effort embarressing the Chinese, Russians, North Koreans, etc, as they focus on the U.S.

Just another bigotted left over hippie trying despirately to convince himself that he has real ethics, focusing on the one major player that won't kill him.

Miriam Letisse
Posted - 2010.11.29 05:07:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Sergeant Spot
I'll take Wikileaks a little more seriously when they put as much effort embarressing the Chinese, Russians, North Koreans, etc, as they focus on the U.S.

Just another bigotted left over hippie trying despirately to convince himself that he has real ethics, focusing on the one major player that won't kill him.



How exactly do you get these types of documents out of North Korea?

Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
Posted - 2010.11.29 05:22:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Miriam Letisse
Originally by: Sergeant Spot
I'll take Wikileaks a little more seriously when they put as much effort embarressing the Chinese, Russians, North Koreans, etc, as they focus on the U.S.

Just another bigotted left over hippie trying despirately to convince himself that he has real ethics, focusing on the one major player that won't kill him.



How exactly do you get these types of documents out of North Korea?


A better question is, do any of those countries even care what we think? China and North Korea don't even try to hide things which make them look bad to us, because they aren't pretending to be something they aren't.

Cmdr Baxter
The Synenose Accord
Celestial Imperative
Posted - 2010.11.29 05:38:00 - [26]
 

Edited by: Cmdr Baxter on 29/11/2010 05:39:16
I'm active-duty US military. While the average American may not care about these documents, I strongly believe that their publication is going to negatively affect our diplomatic relations overseas. I strongly suspect that this release may cause some foreign governments to scale back their diplomatic cooperation with us, will likely inflame tensions in the Middle East (outing Sunni governments for advocating attacks on a Shiite government is sure to win them widespread public favor ... not!), and in summary is going to create more problems for the US at a time when we don't need any more issues.

Personally, I think Assange has guaranteed himself some serious jail time. Therefore, I hope the US government pursues him to the fullest extent of the law, for having broken the law by publishing these documents. I'm sure he'll be looking at a nice, long, jail sentence.

Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
Posted - 2010.11.29 05:51:00 - [27]
 

Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 29/11/2010 06:06:25
I think you're underestimating foreign leaders. They aren't going to be shocked to find out Americans trash the rest of the world among themselves.

About the laying charges thing, if they were going to do that it would have happened long ago. Which means they're either ok with this for some bizarre reason, and just pretending to be outraged, or they're waiting for the right opportunity for him to have an 'accident'.

Kalle Demos
Amarr
Helix Protocol
Posted - 2010.11.29 06:18:00 - [28]
 

This reminds me of that time Goons leaked Bob's forums on CAOD (even though they were open to read anyway), so much hype but truly nothing worth reading / leaking.

Until I see a report of value I will say wikileaks exposed a **** spy and the leaks are just another way for Goons Wikileaks to get attention

Still a fun thread though :)

Sergeant Spot
Galactic Geographic BookMark Surveying Inc.
Posted - 2010.11.29 06:26:00 - [29]
 

Edited by: Sergeant Spot on 29/11/2010 06:26:47
Originally by: Professor Tarantula
Originally by: Miriam Letisse
Originally by: Sergeant Spot
I'll take Wikileaks a little more seriously when they put as much effort embarressing the Chinese, Russians, North Koreans, etc, as they focus on the U.S.

Just another bigotted left over hippie trying despirately to convince himself that he has real ethics, focusing on the one major player that won't kill him.



How exactly do you get these types of documents out of North Korea?


A better question is, do any of those countries even care what we think? China and North Korea don't even try to hide things which make them look bad to us, because they aren't pretending to be something they aren't.


Do you live on planet earth?

The Chinese go ballistic at the drop of a hat. Just one example: Imagin if wikileaks published a few documents showing the chinese behaving badly in Tibet? The North Koreans LOOK for opportunities to be offended so they can kill people.

As for how such documents are gained, well, if wikileaks is serious about making the world a better place, they'll need some dedictaed agents willing to risk death and torture. If they don't bother, then their morals are fake, and its all about them feeling self important regardless of who gets hurt and regardless of how much damage they do.
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Lead, follow, or get the hell out of the way.

Toshiro GreyHawk
Posted - 2010.11.29 06:38:00 - [30]
 



All these ass holes should be in jail.

If it isn't illegal - it should be.




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