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xxCHUCK NORRISxx
Posted - 2010.11.18 08:53:00 - [1]
 

Hello pilot's,

I was reading PC Gamers. I came across an article for a new MMO CCP is coming out with called World of Darkness. The game is labelled as a political and social interaction game. The details were sparse. The article says it's all about vampires but will venture later into other types of characters such as Werewolves and possibly mummies. I was wondering if there was more information about this game.

Ebisu Kami
Posted - 2010.11.18 08:57:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Ebisu Kami on 18/11/2010 08:57:44
... It's going to utilize the Incarna graphics-thingamabob. It's based on the pen&paper RPG system called *drumroll* World of Darkness. That's about it.

Tiberious Heth
Posted - 2010.11.18 09:01:00 - [3]
 

http://www.white-wolf.com/
you will find world of darkness there along with all the other aspects that may possibly venture into the game at some point.

Jennifer Starling
Amarr
Posted - 2010.11.18 09:01:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Ebisu Kami
... It's going to utilize the Incarna graphics-thingamabob. It's based on the pen&paper RPG system called *drumroll* World of Darkness. That's about it.

Can we exchange our characters between both games - being a vampire spaceship pilot would be refreshing! Wink
Would also allow for some very nice fan vids!!

Bluebeard
Minmatar
LoneStar Industries
Comatose Alliance
Posted - 2010.11.18 09:13:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Jennifer Starling
Originally by: Ebisu Kami
... It's going to utilize the Incarna graphics-thingamabob. It's based on the pen&paper RPG system called *drumroll* World of Darkness. That's about it.

Can we exchange our characters between both games - being a vampire spaceship pilot would be refreshing! Wink

Be careful what you wish for, as all those (in their minds) awesome PvP kiddies, would be even more of a pain in the neck.

Fat Buddah
Posted - 2010.11.18 09:33:00 - [6]
 

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Your Client
Posted - 2010.11.18 10:07:00 - [7]
 

EXIT STRATERGY Look it up

Hienz Doofenshmirtz
Posted - 2010.11.18 10:12:00 - [8]
 

this has been known for a long time by people who pay attention. it was basicly confirmed when ccp bought out white wolf in 08

Knakri
Posted - 2010.11.18 10:18:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: Knakri on 18/11/2010 10:18:48
Originally by: Ebisu Kami
Edited by: Ebisu Kami on 18/11/2010 08:57:44
... It's going to utilize the Incarna graphics-thingamabob. It's based on the pen&paper RPG system called *drumroll* World of Darkness. That's about it.



You have that the wrong way round. The Incarna expansion will make use of the graphics package designed for World of Darkness.

Ebisu Kami
Posted - 2010.11.18 10:27:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Ebisu Kami on 18/11/2010 10:33:28
Originally by: Knakri
You have that the wrong way round. The Incarna expansion will make use of the graphics package designed for World of Darkness.


What's first? Incarna or WoD-MMO? Moreso, should I actually care about this entirely pointless detail?

Orion GUardian
Caldari
Posted - 2010.11.18 10:34:00 - [11]
 

The World of Darkness is a group of Pen and Paper roleplaying games developed by White Wolf.

The first Editions Featured "Vampire the Masquerade" which was a game where you played...you guessed it...Vampires in a world of social intrigue and corruption etc.

Later White Wolf introduced Werewolf the Apocalypse, Mage the Ascension where you played respective Werewolves and Mages as well as the "Dark Ages" Versions of all 3, the most famous being Vampire again. Supplements for Eastern Vampires, Changelings, Demons, Mummies, Wraiths, Hunters followed as well but were never as popular (or playable....)

A few years back White Wolf killed the old storyline of and introduced Vampire: Requiem, later supplements for Mage, Werewolf, Changeling etc.. followed after under new storyline new background etc. The MMORPG will be based on the former editions though.

As the various systems are compatible but NOT interchangeable I'd really hate to see them mixed up. Vampire being a game of intrigue and corruption, Werewolves as a spiritual "Beings of Gaia fight against the Wyrm", Mage a "chosen Humans get the ability to change the reality by their will" etc arent really that similar in concept...

Especially as Werewolve may be the only one suitable for a classic MMORPG of Questing and killing stuff. I am curious how CCP will solve the problems that come with trying to get a game like Vampire into a MMORPG form....I doubt its possible to do well (for my taste).

xavier69
Gallente
Stark Enterprises LLC
Posted - 2010.11.18 13:39:00 - [12]
 

Between this, Dust and paying off Atari royalties I doubt they have any money for Eve game updates or fixes

Another Game company abandons what they do best and fails miserable 15+ years of mmo seen this before SOE for example makes a card game instead of creating EQ3 and now EQ2 is going FTP because of there fail

Wonder if this expansion is really going to come out this month already past the halfway point ? They said nov 2010 or did they spend all there money on vampire the fail, dust the fail and Atari the Pimpdaddie?

De'Veldrin
Minmatar
Norse'Storm Battle Group
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2010.11.18 13:50:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: xavier69
Between this, Dust and paying off Atari royalties I doubt they have any money for Eve game updates or fixes

Another Game company abandons what they do best and fails miserable 15+ years of mmo seen this before SOE for example makes a card game instead of creating EQ3 and now EQ2 is going FTP because of there fail

Wonder if this expansion is really going to come out this month already past the halfway point ? They said nov 2010 or did they spend all there money on vampire the fail, dust the fail and Atari the Pimpdaddie?



Actually they already announced they were pushing back the release of Incursion. Current Events.

Ishina Fel
Caldari
Terra Incognita
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2010.11.18 14:22:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: xavier69
paying off Atari royalties


You don't really get this whole "publisher" concept, do you? Rolling Eyes

Ranger 1
Amarr
Ranger Corp
Posted - 2010.11.18 14:24:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Your Client
EXIT STRATERGY Look it up


Diversification and expansion. Look it up.

Good post Orion.

Brian Ballsack
Posted - 2010.11.18 14:27:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Jennifer Starling

Can we exchange our characters between both games - being a vampire spaceship pilot would be refreshing! Wink
Would also allow for some very nice fan vids!!


Im betting a vampire with only learning skills would not be much use :P

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2010.11.18 15:03:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Brian Ballsack
Originally by: Jennifer Starling

Can we exchange our characters between both games - being a vampire spaceship pilot would be refreshing! Wink
Would also allow for some very nice fan vids!!


Im betting a vampire with only learning skills would not be much use :P


oh snap!



(also: In before Pottsey)

Atius Tirawa
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2010.11.18 21:01:00 - [18]
 

Vampire will make more money then internet spaceships - accept th fact that we have been in beta for 7 years.

Syn Callibri
Minmatar
21st Eridani Lighthorse
Posted - 2010.11.18 21:05:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Brian Ballsack

Im betting a vampire with only learning skills would not be much use :P


Beat me to it...damn! Evil or Very Mad


Mikael Izra'il
Posted - 2010.11.18 21:05:00 - [20]
 

Well, as a long time Vampire:Requiem game master (yes sorry, I play Requiem, so what =P) I think CCP is the only company that could handle a concept like World of Darkness and do it right. So I'm quite happy.

Wouldn't mind to see the Mage background added at some point though. It was more dark and intense than what the title may suggest.

ivar R'dhak
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.11.19 02:35:00 - [21]
 

Edited by: ivar R''dhak on 19/11/2010 02:35:19
Ugh.
If I want my Vampires, Werewolves & Mages in a gritty secret world (war) scenario, then IŽll just hit Jim ButcherŽs Dresden Files books again.
Or read Harry Potter. Razz

Stupid McStupidson
Gallente
Hoek Lyne and Sinker
Posted - 2010.11.19 13:37:00 - [22]
 

WoD is less sparkly *****try, and more Underworld/Blade/Van Helsing ultra-violence. Although I suspect that the violence parts will be toned down a bit at the altar of ESRB.

Niccolado Starwalker
Gallente
Shadow Templars
Posted - 2010.11.19 13:47:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Mikael Izra'il
Well, as a long time Vampire:Requiem game master (yes sorry, I play Requiem, so what =P) I think CCP is the only company that could handle a concept like World of Darkness and do it right. So I'm quite happy.

Wouldn't mind to see the Mage background added at some point though. It was more dark and intense than what the title may suggest.


Theres only one vampire that counts, and that is vampire: the masquerade! Wink


Atius Tirawa
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2010.11.19 13:50:00 - [24]
 

I played Darkages myself. . .but yah, Masq was better. This was all in the early to mid 90s though. . .before many of you could even walk. . .

BIZZAROSTORMY
Posted - 2010.11.19 13:57:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Your Client
EXIT STRATERGY Look it up


a dictionary, use one to check spelling.

Aloe Cloveris
The Greater Goon
Posted - 2010.11.19 15:08:00 - [26]
 

If you don't have pen-and-paper traditional games brosefs to experience WoD games with, at least go to Steam (or wherever) and buy Vampire - The Masquerade: Bloodlines. You'll at least get some idea of what the fuss is all about. It's good stuff and I genuinely think it's in good hands with CCP.

Much like Deus Ex, the mere mention of that game prompts someone somewhere to reinstall it.

Taser Monkey
Against All Asteroids
Posted - 2010.11.19 15:09:00 - [27]
 

Edited by: Taser Monkey on 19/11/2010 15:12:08
Originally by: Stupid McStupidson
WoD is less sparkly *****try, and more Underworld/Blade/Van Helsing ultra-violence. Although I suspect that the violence parts will be toned down a bit at the altar of ESRB.


You're joking right? Everytime I've played Vampire the Masquefail I've sat there for hours wondering wtf is going on. The game, the story, the mechanics are all ****e. There is nothing better than stabbing random people in the eye, while walking down the street of some hostile town, simply because you feel like it, the to proceed to destroy the town because someone mispronounced your name.

Eberron beats all and anyone who disagrees hasn't played a good Evil campaign, with a DM who plays a sociopathic, psychopathic, delusional, Elf wannabe king who thinks he's god. Chaotic Evil Sorcerer with 30+ Bluff checking in... I'd love to see your Vamgays beat my lying Twisted Evil

Originally by: Aloe Cloveris
If you don't have pen-and-paper traditional games brosefs to experience WoD games with, at least go to Steam (or wherever) and buy Vampire - The Masquerade: Bloodlines. You'll at least get some idea of what the fuss is all about. It's good stuff and I genuinely think it's in good hands with CCP.

Much like Deus Ex, the mere mention of that game prompts someone somewhere to reinstall it.


The mere mention of that game also makes someone somewhere strangle kittens.

Cantana Soul
Ministry of War
Posted - 2010.11.19 15:12:00 - [28]
 

Edited by: Cantana Soul on 19/11/2010 15:15:04
Originally by: Taser Monkey
Originally by: Stupid McStupidson
WoD is less sparkly *****try, and more Underworld/Blade/Van Helsing ultra-violence. Although I suspect that the violence parts will be toned down a bit at the altar of ESRB.


You're joking right? Everytime I've played Vampire the Masquefail I've sat there for hours wondering wtf is going on. The game, the story, the mechanics are all ****e. There is nothing better than stabbing random people in the eye, while walking down the street of some hostile town, simply because you feel like it, the to proceed to destroy the town because someone mispronounced your name.

Eberron beats all and anyone who disagrees hasn't played a good Evil campaign, with a DM who plays a sociopathic, psychopathic, delusional, Elf wannabe king who thinks he's god. Chaotic Evil Sorcerer with 30+ Bluff checking in... I'd love to see your Vamgays beat my lying Twisted Evil


Laughing Gay WotC player checking in...

Mikael Izra'il
Posted - 2010.11.19 15:12:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Taser Monkey
Originally by: Stupid McStupidson
WoD is less sparkly *****try, and more Underworld/Blade/Van Helsing ultra-violence. Although I suspect that the violence parts will be toned down a bit at the altar of ESRB.


You're joking right? Everytime I've played Vampire the Masquefail I've sat there for hours wondering wtf is going on. The game, the story, the mechanics are all ****e. There is nothing better than stabbing random people in the eye, while walking down the street of some hostile town, simply because you feel like it, the to proceed to destroy the town because someone mispronounced your name.

Eberron beats all and anyone who disagrees hasn't played a good Evil campaign, with a DM who plays a sociopathic, psychopathic, delusional, Elf wannabe king who thinks he's god. Chaotic Evil Sorcerer with 30+ Bluff checking in... I'd love to see your Vamgays beat my lying Twisted Evil


I don't know about Masquerade but following Vampire:Requiem I managed to freak my friends out to the point of no sleeping, and some of them actually requested to be taken out of the campagin.

I'm talking about adult people here. Then again, I tried to turn my campaings into an ARG of sorts =).

Taser Monkey
Against All Asteroids
Posted - 2010.11.19 15:29:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Mikael Izra'il
I don't know about Masquerade but following Vampire:Requiem I managed to freak my friends out to the point of no sleeping, and some of them actually requested to be taken out of the campagin.

I'm talking about adult people here. Then again, I tried to turn my campaings into an ARG of sorts =).


Then I must have had a bad GM. I never played the game as a teenager, only as adult but my DM in D&D used to keep us dying for out next game and I used to log into EVE then open the DM books and start thinking of ways to make him pay for the things he'd done to me that Monday. He was evil, very evil and none of the characters in the game trusted me and, in fact, they hated me. He declared I was one of the most unpredictable, odd and weird players he'd ever played with and I miss him greatly now Crying or Very sad

I have some of the old recordings, as he used to record the sessions, and I still listen to them from time to time. The way that man described the Eldritch machine he conjured up with Wish brings tears to my eyes. This half naked, gay, insane Wizard describing his conjuration... man... that was amazing and I still sit there in total and utter ShockedShockedShocked

Anyway, I'd never quit a good campaign like that. But my Vampgay DM really had me sitting there through the sessions thinking "WTF IS GOING ON HERE???" and "WTF AM I ****ING DOING HERE???" Man... it was boring and bad.


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