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Hakaru Ishiwara
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2011.03.01 19:44:00 - [91]
 

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/QEN

Nothing posted as of this post.

I'd love to see a comparison between how much PI was harvested from planets v. how PI material was acquired from Reprogate(*) from the launch of Tyrannis to EOY, 2010. And then an accurate assessment how much of that reprocessed material remains locked away in storage, waiting to be used for market manipulation.

(*) - CCP's royal ****-up where, for a brief period of time after the initial Tyrannis launch, PI-derived goods such as POS modules could be reprocessed into more elementary PI materials with the potential to severely devalue planet-harvested and processed goods.


VinnieNL
Amarr
ExoGen Foundation
The Obsidian Legion
Posted - 2011.03.09 17:27:00 - [92]
 

I check every week since January on the QEN wiki page for the Q4-2010 report. The reports usually contain some mistakes and don't contain all the data we would like to see but they were still interesting to read. And it's one of the things that make Eve an unique MMO. So hopefully CCP still plans to continue with these QEN's.

Hakaru Ishiwara
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2011.03.11 21:26:00 - [93]
 

Originally by: VinnieNL
I check every week since January on the QEN wiki page for the Q4-2010 report. The reports usually contain some mistakes and don't contain all the data we would like to see but they were still interesting to read. And it's one of the things that make Eve an unique MMO. So hopefully CCP still plans to continue with these QEN's.
I too find the economic reports interesting to review despite some short comings.

As dangerous as it is to make assumptions in the world of economics, it sure looks like the QEN is being held up to be released for Fanfest.

Hopefully the Q1 2011 QEN doesn't take two and a half months to produce. ConfusedRolling Eyes

Valeroth Kyarmentari
Posted - 2011.03.14 15:22:00 - [94]
 

I think the QEN is the most fascinating thing I've ever seen a game company do, and I know several other people who also think so.

I'm greatful they do it, and eagerly await it's release.

Mikel Laurentson
Posted - 2011.03.14 16:51:00 - [95]
 

I'd guess the hold up is caused in part by the changes to the database backend. Since going 64-bit, it's a little more work to compare items over time. And the econ team isn't huge, so between the impact on salvaging the Noctis had (presumably significant), the quietly mentioned anti-bot stuff GM Grimmi claims to have been doing, and the skill-point rebate pushing demand for high-end ships forwards by a month without a corresponding increase in production, there's an awful lot to cover.

And if they have taken on-board comments about more standardised metrics (or performing non-DT snapshots, whatever), they could easily have lost a few weeks just sorting out *exactly* what they needed to be doing, and pulling historical data to match. It's astonishing how long that stuff can take when it starts to feel important. ;)

Hakaru Ishiwara
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2011.03.17 14:19:00 - [96]
 

Originally by: Mikel Laurentson
good points, all.
Except that it has now been four months since the last publication. While much of what the player base gets to read in these reports is analytical and looks at historical events, CCP personnel have the unique opportunity to sit in on and be a part of the theory behind and technical execution of the software product. If this is indeed the case, the economically minded have the potential be able to prepare database queries and roughly formulate their case studies before the first bit of Tranquility data is captured.

tl;dr - EVE metrics can be proactively determined for game feature changes / additions, mitigating reactionary time delays.

But all of this is speculation. A word from CCP Dr.EyjoG, please?

p.s. no new avatar for the Doc? Hmmm.

VinnieNL
Amarr
ExoGen Foundation
The Obsidian Legion
Posted - 2011.03.24 09:51:00 - [97]
 

I don't mind waiting if it's because of the reasons Mikel Laurentson pointed out. Because data isn't much worth if it isn't accurate. But a response from CCP would be nice, even if it's only as much as "it's done when it's done" so we know CCP still plans to release a next QEN.


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