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SFM Hobb3s
Vanguard Frontiers
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2010.11.14 17:31:00 - [91]
 

That's great news CCP Explorer about the Noctis being ready for the 1st release. Perhaps I'm pushing our luck but did you happen to find anything out about the Tornado?

BeanBagKing
Terra Incognita
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2010.11.14 17:36:00 - [92]
 

Originally by: Alyth
Ferox and Eagle are fine, it's hybrids in general that suck. Rails should be the highest damaging long ranged turrets like blasters are for short range (just about). I mean they suck to fit on any ship that uses them, they use both cap and ammo and they fail to hit the broad side of many barns as it is already, wheres the harm in actually wanting to give people a viable reason to fit them over tachs and 1400s?


Maybe the surprise Christmas release is rails that don't suck! Very Happy

Fohacidal
SPORADIC MOVEMENT
Posted - 2010.11.14 20:29:00 - [93]
 

I hope the christmas surprise is a CCP run and sponsored eve ship design contest where the members vote on ships and the devs pick the finalists. This would make my day.

Also one finalist per race for great justice :D


oh and rails getting buffed

London
Imminent Ruin
Dirt Nap Squad.
Posted - 2010.11.14 20:52:00 - [94]
 

fix hybrids? :/

CCP Explorer

Posted - 2010.11.14 21:19:00 - [95]
 

Originally by: Bobbee Sephora
Originally by: CCP Explorer
No, I checked today and the fighter bombers will not be using real missiles anymore. Instead they will be using a damage effect and the visual effect will be like a missile. Originally the plan was to use a turret-like damage effect and damage calculations but after a review it was decided to go with a missile-like damage effect and damage calculations.
Maybe the same theory and practice could be used to 'fix' the Drakes... Just sayin...
Yes and no. It's on our roadmap to take a look at missiles and what we did for the fighter bombers would serve as a template or a starting point but overhauling all missiles is both a huge balancing task and we would need to come up with solutions for smartbombs and their interaction with missiles.

CCP Explorer

Posted - 2010.11.14 21:28:00 - [96]
 

Originally by: SFM Hobb3s
That's great news CCP Explorer about the Noctis being ready for the 1st release. Perhaps I'm pushing our luck but did you happen to find anything out about the Tornado?
I didn't ask. Very Happy It will take a while to fully model and texture it.

Snowmann
Posted - 2010.11.14 21:48:00 - [97]
 

Maybe the super-secrit December feature is the "rigged ship" Freighter.

Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation
RONA Directorate
Posted - 2010.11.14 22:41:00 - [98]
 

Originally by: CCP Explorer
[ It's on our roadmap to take a look at missiles and what we did for the fighter bombers would serve as a template or a starting point but overhauling all missiles is both a huge balancing task and we would need to come up with solutions for smartbombs and their interaction with missiles.


What do you mean by this CCP Explorer? As of right now RR smartbomb bs's are the only way to combat those laggy drake fleets.

Kieron VonDeux
Posted - 2010.11.14 22:50:00 - [99]
 

Originally by: Obsidian Hawk
What do you mean by this CCP Explorer? As of right now RR smartbomb bs's are the only way to combat those laggy drake fleets.


I would imagine that changing missles as described would make it problematic for SBs to destroy missiles, so they would need to come up with a way to maintain that if possible, or somehow rebalace missiles.

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2010.11.14 23:28:00 - [100]
 

Originally by: CCP Explorer
Originally by: Bobbee Sephora
Originally by: CCP Explorer
No, I checked today and the fighter bombers will not be using real missiles anymore. Instead they will be using a damage effect and the visual effect will be like a missile. Originally the plan was to use a turret-like damage effect and damage calculations but after a review it was decided to go with a missile-like damage effect and damage calculations.
Maybe the same theory and practice could be used to 'fix' the Drakes... Just sayin...
Yes and no. It's on our roadmap to take a look at missiles and what we did for the fighter bombers would serve as a template or a starting point but overhauling all missiles is both a huge balancing task and we would need to come up with solutions for smartbombs and their interaction with missiles.


And ofc dont forget Defender missiles!

Zhim'Fufu
Posted - 2010.11.15 01:10:00 - [101]
 

Originally by: Malcanis
And ofc dont forget Defender missiles!
Maybe make it so that they apply full damage to all missiles in a group? Smile

But of course that would promote ungrouping your missiles so probably not a priority atm. Razz

Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
Posted - 2010.11.15 05:13:00 - [102]
 

Originally by: CCP Explorer
... need to come up with solutions for smartbombs and their interaction with missiles.


Are there really many people that fit SBs to deal with missles?

BeanBagKing
Terra Incognita
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2010.11.15 08:09:00 - [103]
 

Originally by: Adunh Slavy
Originally by: CCP Explorer
... need to come up with solutions for smartbombs and their interaction with missiles.


Are there really many people that fit SBs to deal with missles?


Probably not, and I haven't seen anything other than the one Firewall video, but if that is indeed the only counter then it may be the next big strategy if larger alliances pick it up. Yea, that's a lot of if's and basically I admit I don't know what I'm talking about, but it does work, and changing that may break the only defense people see against them, causing emo rage and tears.

It'd be better for CCP to actually plan ahead and not jump right into this.

Amarantha Morgana
Posted - 2010.11.15 09:12:00 - [104]
 

Edited by: Amarantha Morgana on 15/11/2010 09:12:16
When will we get a new trailer? Also can we have a hint or two for the December part of the expansion?

Joe SMASH
You Got A Purty Mouth
Posted - 2010.11.15 13:53:00 - [105]
 

Originally by: CCP Explorer
hen I talked to a lot of people on Friday to find out the status of the Noctis and it now looks likely that it will be included in the 1st release.


Since I got the ball rolling on getting some info on the Noctis and subsequently getting it pushed to 1st release (everyone should be thanking me, BTW, send ISK to me please) can I press my luck and have a Noctis BPO delivered to my lowsec base? I cannot be bothered to go across the galaxy to grab on in the Outer Ring. Thanks! ugh

PS: YOU'RE WELCOME, RESIDENTS OF NEW EDEN!

Fennisair
Autocannons Anonymous
Posted - 2010.11.15 19:53:00 - [106]
 

I've just had an epiphany about the December release!

Engine trails are back... but the trail is going to be sparkly Xmas snow-flakes. Also the AB/MWD engine noise is going to be replaced for the season with the sound of sleigh-bells. *jingle jingly jingle*

:D

Yuki Kulotsuki
Posted - 2010.11.15 20:37:00 - [107]
 

Originally by: Fennisair
I've just had an epiphany about the December release!

Engine trails are back... but the trail is going to be sparkly Xmas snow-flakes. Also the AB/MWD engine noise is going to be replaced for the season with the sound of sleigh-bells. *jingle jingly jingle*

:D
Not empty quoting this.

threadedjack
Posted - 2010.11.15 20:38:00 - [108]
 

Snowball launchers are back and all interdiction bubbles are now giant balls of tinsel. You're welcome.

Hesperius
Posted - 2010.11.15 20:42:00 - [109]
 

Originally by: Kuetlzelcoatl
Me thinks "Hive Ship"

If that were the case Id re-sub. I don't see it happening this side of 2013.

Ascendic
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2010.11.16 07:50:00 - [110]
 

I KNOW!

Its CCP SANTASOUNDWAVE!

He literally IS Christmas.

MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Posted - 2010.11.16 09:39:00 - [111]
 

Originally by: CCP Explorer
Originally by: Bobbee Sephora
Originally by: CCP Explorer
No, I checked today and the fighter bombers will not be using real missiles anymore. Instead they will be using a damage effect and the visual effect will be like a missile. Originally the plan was to use a turret-like damage effect and damage calculations but after a review it was decided to go with a missile-like damage effect and damage calculations.
Maybe the same theory and practice could be used to 'fix' the Drakes... Just sayin...
Yes and no. It's on our roadmap to take a look at missiles and what we did for the fighter bombers would serve as a template or a starting point but overhauling all missiles is both a huge balancing task and we would need to come up with solutions for smartbombs and their interaction with missiles.


Maybe smart bombs shouldn't be the counter to missiles? (as in that should be thrown out the door altogether) Maybe something like more,... I don't know something to shoot them down? come on we could call them... I don't know, defender missiles?

Carniflex
StarHunt
Fallout Project
Posted - 2010.11.16 09:44:00 - [112]
 

Originally by: Kieron VonDeux
Originally by: Obsidian Hawk
What do you mean by this CCP Explorer? As of right now RR smartbomb bs's are the only way to combat those laggy drake fleets.


I would imagine that changing missles as described would make it problematic for SBs to destroy missiles, so they would need to come up with a way to maintain that if possible, or somehow rebalace missiles.


They could make defender missiles to actually work ?

Oh and the patch sounds intriguing :)

Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
Posted - 2010.11.16 09:59:00 - [113]
 

Quote:

Just be careful about applying the "if everyone's complaining, you're doing something right" heuristic ;)



Yeah it did not work wonders for SWG.


Quote:

Snowball launchers are back and all interdiction bubbles are now giant balls of tinsel. You're welcome.



I want Nutella torpedoes!

Sturmwolke
Posted - 2010.11.16 10:08:00 - [114]
 

Read from SC that SISI have new characters boxes with the option to use an auto-name generator and you also finally able to space out the middle name properly (e.g "Ivan The Terrible").

So do existing players get options to append a surname or petition a spacing change? Wink

HeliosGal
Caldari
Posted - 2010.11.16 11:09:00 - [115]
 

how is dust 514 coming along

ArmyOfMe
Hysera.
Posted - 2010.11.16 12:25:00 - [116]
 

Edited by: ArmyOfMe on 16/11/2010 12:28:58
Originally by: CCP Explorer

To qualify for the 1st release it had to satisfy four conditions: be something (A) players had requested

The removal of all cap ships in eve???♥♥

Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
Posted - 2010.11.16 13:12:00 - [117]
 

JOVE INCURSION!

Orion GUardian
Caldari
Posted - 2010.11.19 10:04:00 - [118]
 

Originally by: CCP Explorer
Noctis: "Signs point to yes".


I am not sure does that mean we will get it earlier? Hmm I will be done with missions by that time anyway ^^

Captian Conrad
Minmatar
Empyrean Warriors
Posted - 2010.11.19 10:28:00 - [119]
 

Am i the only one thinking that PI inprovements will be our christmas surpise as its not mentioned on in the dev blog Crying or Very sad

Say it aint so CCP Explorer! ugh

Starlight Twilight
Amarr
Posted - 2010.11.20 06:56:00 - [120]
 

Originally by: CCP Explorer
The Noctis is going to be a part of the 3rd release. (EDIT: It's now in the 1st release.)


so happy, finally means I can actually haul everything and salvage everything in one go


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