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Tractus Vesica
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2010.11.12 03:12:00 - [1]
 

Though this is only EVE, I would like to draw attention to what today is, to all American EVE pilots. Please, drop a veteran a line if you know one, or honor our service men and women past and present in any way you are able to.

Thank you.

Zindela
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
Posted - 2010.11.12 03:27:00 - [2]
 

More countries than the US celebrate Veterans' Day today, as Nov 11 was the day WWI ended, though not all call it that. In Canada, today is Remembrance Day, which serves essentially the same purpose. The difference in the way the 2 countries honor the service of the service men and women is rather astounding. To me, at least, Canada seems to make Remembrance Day much more important that Veterans' Day in the US. I'm from the US, and I see this as unfortunate, and I think that the US should celebrate our veterans much more that we do.

I respect and greatly appreciate the service all veterans have done and sacrificed for us.

"Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. But, the Marines don't have that problem."

-Ronald Reagan, President of the United States; 1985

Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
Posted - 2010.11.12 04:04:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 12/11/2010 04:11:10
In Canada Rememberence day is about reflecting on the tragedy of war. Remembering those who died. In the states the ocassion seems to more about celebrating people who serve in the military.

It's important to not just thank servicemen, but think about how we shouldn't easily send them into the horror and misery of war.

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2010.11.12 04:13:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Professor Tarantula
Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 12/11/2010 04:11:10
In Canada Rememberence day is about reflecting on the tragedy of war. Remembering those who died. In the states the ocassion seems to more about celebrating people who serve in the military.

It's important to not just thank servicemen, but think about how we shouldn't easily send them into the horror and misery of war.


USMC wants to be sent into warzones though, that's why we all vote replican Razz

Pr1ncess Alia
Posted - 2010.11.12 04:14:00 - [5]
 


Tractus Vesica
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2010.11.12 04:16:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
Originally by: Professor Tarantula
Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 12/11/2010 04:11:10
In Canada Rememberence day is about reflecting on the tragedy of war. Remembering those who died. In the states the ocassion seems to more about celebrating people who serve in the military.

It's important to not just thank servicemen, but think about how we shouldn't easily send them into the horror and misery of war.


USMC wants to be sent into warzones though, that's why we all vote replican Razz


I'm going to be in NROTC in a few months to train to become a marine officer. Very Happy

Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
Posted - 2010.11.12 04:29:00 - [7]
 

I'll just leave this here.

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2010.11.12 04:35:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Tractus Vesica


I'm going to be in NROTC in a few months to train to become a marine officer. Very Happy


Oorah!

Originally by: Professor Tarantula
I'll just leave this here.


Lol drunks

Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente
Sigma Special Tactics Group
Posted - 2010.11.12 04:36:00 - [9]
 


Zhim'Fufu
Posted - 2010.11.12 04:39:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Zhim''Fufu on 12/11/2010 04:41:05
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
USMC wants to be sent into warzones though, that's why we all vote replican Razz
This pretty much. I blame the USMC for our involvment in every major and minor war since ww2.

Prez: Hey gaiz think this war is worth it?

USMC: KILL! KILL! KILL!

Prez: kk sending you giaz in now.

Moral? USMC is the Sardaukar.

Tractus Vesica
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2010.11.12 04:43:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Herzog Wolfhammer
I am a veteran but keep the thanks for I deserve it no more than the world needed my "service".





You misinterpret my meaning sir. The world wars were a tragedy of astronomical proportions, they triggered the decline of the West. However, no nation may exist without a military, and often times, those who serve our military lose their lives in the process. This is not to honor killing, or weapons, or war itself. But rather to honor those who are willing to pay the ultimate price to ensure our protection.

The world is an ugly place rife with violence and vile people, in an ideal world, our military would be unnecessary, however, as mentioned before, this not no Utopia.

So maybe you choose not to except the gratitude of our citizens, but I for one know that there are many who are deserving of our honor and respect, and will gladly give it to them.

Wuz Wiz
Hedion University
Posted - 2010.11.12 04:44:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Herzog Wolfhammer
I am a veteran but keep the thanks for I deserve it no more than the world needed my "service".


I sense that you are about to get flamed. Smile

Tractus Vesica
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2010.11.12 04:45:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Zhim'Fufu
Edited by: Zhim''Fufu on 12/11/2010 04:41:05
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
USMC wants to be sent into warzones though, that's why we all vote replican Razz
This pretty much. I blame the USMC for our involvment in every major and minor war since ww2.

Prez: Hey gaiz think this war is worth it?

USMC: KILL! KILL! KILL!

Prez: kk sending you giaz in now.

Moral? USMC is the Sardaukar.


I am going in to the marines as mentioned before. I do not like the prospect of killing, but in some cases it is a necessity. Also, a measure of imperialism would do wonders for our economy, take the Iraqis oil and begin mining the mineral deposits in the Afgahn mountains.

Your view of the marines is narrow, ignorant, and unappreciative, please, refrain from exposing yourself for a philistine and a fool again. Thanks! Very Happy

Zhim'Fufu
Posted - 2010.11.12 04:46:00 - [14]
 

Edited by: Zhim''Fufu on 12/11/2010 04:52:23
Originally by: Wuz Wiz
Originally by: Herzog Wolfhammer
I am a veteran but keep the thanks for I deserve it no more than the world needed my "service".


I sense that you are about to get flamed. Smile
Nah, wastes of life like that get offed in the middle of the night with no fanfare and dumped into a shallow grave so the local wildlife can dig them up and desicrate their corpses.

Originally by: Tractus Vesica
Your view of the marines is narrow, ignorant, and unappreciative, please, refrain from exposing yourself for a philistine and a fool again. Thanks! Very Happy
Wait till you get to boot camp and try that line on your drill sergeant.

Oh Boy.....

Hope you like late night beatings from your bunk mate with socks filled with soap bars.

Remember kids this is the branch of service that takes pride in the fact that Oswald was a Marine trained sniper. Wink

Tractus Vesica
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2010.11.12 04:53:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Zhim'Fufu
Edited by: Zhim''Fufu on 12/11/2010 04:52:23
Originally by: Wuz Wiz
Originally by: Herzog Wolfhammer
I am a veteran but keep the thanks for I deserve it no more than the world needed my "service".


I sense that you are about to get flamed. Smile
Nah, wastes of life like that get offed in the middle of the night with no fanfare and dumped into a shallow grave so the local wildlife can dig them up and desicrate their corpses.

Originally by: Tractus Vesica
Your view of the marines is narrow, ignorant, and unappreciative, please, refrain from exposing yourself for a philistine and a fool again. Thanks! Very Happy
Wait till you get to boot camp and try that line on your drill sergeant.

Oh Boy.....

Hope you like late night beatings from your bunk mate with socks filled with soap bars.

Remember kids this is the branch of service that takes pride in the fact that Oswald was a Marine trained sniper. Wink


Good thing I'm not going in enlisted then? Rolling Eyes

Zhim'Fufu
Posted - 2010.11.12 04:55:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Tractus Vesica
Good thing I'm not going in enlisted then? Rolling Eyes
Even worse. Your recruiter lied to you. So sorry you won't ever make it past lt with that attitude.

Tractus Vesica
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2010.11.12 05:01:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Zhim'Fufu
Originally by: Tractus Vesica
Good thing I'm not going in enlisted then? Rolling Eyes
Even worse. Your recruiter lied to you. So sorry you won't ever make it past lt with that attitude.


And what attitude is that? I have a Father and an uncle whom are both former marines? I know what kind of work the job requires, I also am perfectly aware of just how strenuous and taxing barracks life or deployment can be. Are you referring to the fact that I happen to be articulate? Here, let me make this more acceptable.

I know what the **** life in the marines is like, and I know its a total *****. Kay?

Zhim'Fufu
Posted - 2010.11.12 05:13:00 - [18]
 

Edited by: Zhim''Fufu on 12/11/2010 05:13:35
Originally by: Tractus Vesica
Originally by: Zhim'Fufu
Originally by: Tractus Vesica
Good thing I'm not going in enlisted then? Rolling Eyes
Even worse. Your recruiter lied to you. So sorry you won't ever make it past lt with that attitude.


And what attitude is that? I have a Father and an uncle whom are both former marines? I know what kind of work the job requires, I also am perfectly aware of just how strenuous and taxing barracks life or deployment can be. Are you referring to the fact that I happen to be articulate? Here, let me make this more acceptable.

I know what the **** life in the marines is like, and I know its a total *****. Kay?
Again good luck with that attitude. You will be expected to take lives regardless of combatant status. Its simply the nature of the branch. Marines are the no questions asked storm troopers of the us military. Not saying that the people who serve in it are horrible people but again you will be put in situations that require a massive denial of your basic human instincts and still be expected to pull the trigger. This is unlike any other branch of service past maybe bomber pilots in the air force.

Just curious. What wars did your uncle and father participate in?

Tractus Vesica
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2010.11.12 05:17:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Zhim'Fufu
Edited by: Zhim''Fufu on 12/11/2010 05:13:35
Originally by: Tractus Vesica
Originally by: Zhim'Fufu
Originally by: Tractus Vesica
Good thing I'm not going in enlisted then? Rolling Eyes
Even worse. Your recruiter lied to you. So sorry you won't ever make it past lt with that attitude.


And what attitude is that? I have a Father and an uncle whom are both former marines? I know what kind of work the job requires, I also am perfectly aware of just how strenuous and taxing barracks life or deployment can be. Are you referring to the fact that I happen to be articulate? Here, let me make this more acceptable.

I know what the **** life in the marines is like, and I know its a total *****. Kay?
Again good luck with that attitude. You will be expected to take lives regardless of combatant status. Its simply the nature of the branch. Marines are the no questions asked storm troopers of the us military. Not saying that the people who serve in it are horrible people but again you will be put in situations that require a massive denial of your basic human instincts and still be expected to pull the trigger. This is unlike any other branch of service past maybe bomber pilots in the air force.

Just curious. What wars did your uncle and father participate in?


My Father never saw combat and my uncle was involved in operation desert storm. By the way, when I say I have no desire to take lives, that does not mean I am unwilling to. I am merely saying that there is no pleasure in it for me. Obviously killing is part of the job in a combat scenario.

Zhim'Fufu
Posted - 2010.11.12 05:34:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Tractus Vesica
My Father never saw combat and my uncle was involved in operation desert storm. By the way, when I say I have no desire to take lives, that does not mean I am unwilling to. I am merely saying that there is no pleasure in it for me. Obviously killing is part of the job in a combat scenario.
Killing is the entire job of the marines in a war scenario. The army is the one who occupies and the marines are the ones who take it in the first place.

But as long as you know what you are getting into I suppose.

Just saying if you start spouting that live and let live sentiment after actually joining it's not going to do you any favors.

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2010.11.12 05:44:00 - [21]
 

I'm going back in, got about 11 months left on my lease then off I go again. In the words of Full Metal Jacket I miss not having anyone around that's worth shooting Sad

Zhim'Fufu
Posted - 2010.11.12 05:51:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
I'm going back in, got about 11 months left on my lease then off I go again. In the words of Full Metal Jacket I miss not having anyone around that's worth shooting Sad
O7

Amarrian Alt
Posted - 2010.11.12 07:23:00 - [23]
 

"He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my
contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the
spinal cord would fully suffice. This disgrace to civilization should be
done away with at once. Heroism at command, senseless brutality, and all the
loathsome nonsense that goes by the name of patriotism, how violently I hate
all this, how despicable and ignoble war is; I would rather be torn to
shreds than be part of so base an action! It is my conviction that killing
under the cloak of war is nothing but an act of murder."

- A.E.

Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente
Sigma Special Tactics Group
Posted - 2010.11.12 07:28:00 - [24]
 


Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2010.11.12 07:33:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Amarrian Alt
"He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my
contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the
spinal cord would fully suffice. This disgrace to civilization should be
done away with at once. Heroism at command, senseless brutality, and all the
loathsome nonsense that goes by the name of patriotism, how violently I hate
all this, how despicable and ignoble war is; I would rather be torn to
shreds than be part of so base an action! It is my conviction that killing
under the cloak of war is nothing but an act of murder."

- A.E.


Very nice, now what do you think?

Zedic
Amarr
Universalis Imperium
Tactical Narcotics Team
Posted - 2010.11.12 07:37:00 - [26]
 

Former US Navy Squid here. And I've dated a few Marines in my time.. YARRRR!!

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2010.11.12 07:57:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Zedic
Former US Navy Squid here. And I've dated a few Marines in my time.. YARRRR!!


Hey, after 7 months you look pretty good in those bellbottoms Very Happy

Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente
Sigma Special Tactics Group
Posted - 2010.11.12 08:01:00 - [28]
 

I like how some people get it, and separate the policy of war from the motivations of those who would put their lives on the line for others.

But let us never forget what war is really all about. Ever.


Zedic
Amarr
Universalis Imperium
Tactical Narcotics Team
Posted - 2010.11.12 08:16:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
Originally by: Zedic
Former US Navy Squid here. And I've dated a few Marines in my time.. YARRRR!!


Hey, after 7 months you look pretty good in those bellbottoms Very Happy


a/s/l ??? Bonus points if you're an 0311. arrrrrrrrrr YARRRR!!

@ Herzog

I didn't personally agree with the politics of the time (95 - 02) but, the President is the CiC so, we do what we do. It took me a bit after I got out to start being able to think as a civilian again. Refreshing I guess. I miss the Navy though, I had orders to La Maddalena, Italy for a second naval security forces assignment, but didn't get to go. Would have retired if I could have stayed, but screwed my knees up. Yay 50% VA disability.

.....

Obvious jokes about squids and knee problems in 5..4..3..2..1...

Tractus Vesica
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2010.11.12 14:15:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Amarrian Alt
"He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my
contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the
spinal cord would fully suffice. This disgrace to civilization should be
done away with at once. Heroism at command, senseless brutality, and all the
loathsome nonsense that goes by the name of patriotism, how violently I hate
all this, how despicable and ignoble war is; I would rather be torn to
shreds than be part of so base an action! It is my conviction that killing
under the cloak of war is nothing but an act of murder."

- A.E.


Thats cute, now tell me how long your nation would retain its independence without a military. Cool


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