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Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2010.11.11 23:57:00 - [181]
 

Originally by: Rheige Bladewhisper
Originally by: Hrothgar Doran
And that $26 million a year is being divided into developement on 3 different games, only one of which is bringing in said revenue. And consider that wow (making $258 million a year) has only released 2 expanions so far, soon to be 3.

I agree with you that CCP needs to tell us what specifically is causing the delay, but look at it this way. If CCP is taking the time to correct it's mistakes in past releases, and provide some long needed polish on certain elements of the game (tech two ammo, etc) then when it comes to to release incarna, they won't have to delay it in turn due to fixing bugs from the past three releases.

If they made a mistake, be happy they are correcting it sooner, rather than later. Or worse, never.


Here's the thing, though: We shouldn't be having money we spend on our game being sent off to making other ones and then used as an excuse. Trying to say that is just plain silly. As far as expansions go, WoW has had plenty of new-content releases that have added lots more to the game each time then CCP tends to with theirs.

Now, quibbling aside, I DO approve of this, CCP. Just remember that we're paying for EVE, not for your WoD game, if you'd please.

P.S. Give us the Noctis at the end of November. =/


Do you think it would be sensible for CCP to only ever rely on one product? If not, how else should they fund the development? By selling out to a publisher?

Rheige Bladewhisper
Posted - 2010.11.12 00:09:00 - [182]
 

Originally by: Malcanis
Do you think it would be sensible for CCP to only ever rely on one product? If not, how else should they fund the development? By selling out to a publisher?

Do you think that it is sensible for CCP to both have allocated funding for WoD AND expend 80-90 percent of EVE resources on systems for WoD? Systems that they have tacitly admitted will add no real gameplay value to EVE?

And as far as 'reasonable', I'd say that it's quite unreasonable of them to plan on making a FPS... hosting it on X-Box instead of focusing on PC... and then not have any clear plans on how to link it to EVE. This makes Dust nothing more then a generic sci-fi FPS. There's a word for that already, it's called Halo.

MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Posted - 2010.11.12 00:14:00 - [183]
 

Originally by: Rheige Bladewhisper
Originally by: Malcanis
Do you think it would be sensible for CCP to only ever rely on one product? If not, how else should they fund the development? By selling out to a publisher?

Do you think that it is sensible for CCP to both have allocated funding for WoD AND expend 80-90 percent of EVE resources on systems for WoD? Systems that they have tacitly admitted will add no real gameplay value to EVE?

.


yes

That's what companies do.

Rheige Bladewhisper
Posted - 2010.11.12 00:14:00 - [184]
 

Originally by: MotherMoon
yes

That's what companies do.

That's what failing companies do.

Seriously Bored
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.11.12 00:29:00 - [185]
 

Way to go CCP. Way to go.

I mean that as un-sarcastically as humanly possible.

Jack Gilligan
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2010.11.12 00:30:00 - [186]
 

Originally by: Rheige Bladewhisper
Originally by: Malcanis
Do you think it would be sensible for CCP to only ever rely on one product? If not, how else should they fund the development? By selling out to a publisher?

Do you think that it is sensible for CCP to both have allocated funding for WoD AND expend 80-90 percent of EVE resources on systems for WoD? Systems that they have tacitly admitted will add no real gameplay value to EVE?

And as far as 'reasonable', I'd say that it's quite unreasonable of them to plan on making a FPS... hosting it on X-Box instead of focusing on PC... and then not have any clear plans on how to link it to EVE. This makes Dust nothing more then a generic sci-fi FPS. There's a word for that already, it's called Halo.


Worse than that, because it is supposed to link with EVE, DUST514 is dictating to a certain extent the development schedule of EVE, to absolutely NO benefit to existing customers. This is probably one of the reasons why Incarna is being linked to it at the hip, for reasons other than the fact that it pretty much has to be in for DUST to launch.

It is very easy to see that DUST is very likely to fail. MMOFPS games haven't been very successful in the first place, and that's on the PC, much less on a console which is a far worse FPS platform than a PC. We all need to hope that CCP doesn't bet so much money on DUST that it's (almost certain) failure causes the company to collapse and have to be sold to the likes of SOE or Cryptic...


Lyssa T'Kran
Posted - 2010.11.12 00:30:00 - [187]
 

It's normal for companies to take large portions of the profit from one project to fund other projects, and i'm talking about more than half. It's called diversifying, and its what keeps companies afloat. if CCP were to put all it's eggs in the EVE basket, and EVE were suddenly to lose popularity, the company would be in big trouble.

I've worked for technology companies, working closely with the engineers. This is common practice. Once you've paid the money for their service, it's their money, they can do whatever they want with it, as long as they are still fulfilling their part of the terms of service. Anything else is internal policy and they can change it as they wish.

If you don't like what the company is doing with your money, you can do one of three things. Buy stock and get your voice heard at shareholders meetings (which is really the only voices most companies care about anyway), vote with your "feet", or just shut the heck up and keep playing.

I'm still waiting to hear about when the SM2 support will be removed.

Rikki Sals
Caldari
Posted - 2010.11.12 00:46:00 - [188]
 

Jack Gilligan seems mad.

But that's okay, it's entirely his prerogative to make cynical assumptions and dislike all the development goals of the game he's playing! Smile

Xqpvqsvs Qr'atyuqink
Minmatar
Lamb Federation Navy
C0VEN
Posted - 2010.11.12 00:54:00 - [189]
 

Originally by: CCP Fallout
CCP Zulu newest blog provides an update on the EVE Online: Incursion expansion.


This is probably a good way to deal things... for now.

I must say that EVE probably reached some end point, a top of the hill from where cant go any further. Feeling that for CCP, EVE is not their main priority anymore, is stronger each month. They developing other games, starting new projects, its not like when they have only EVE to deal with.

Now we have two months delay, in next year there will be 3 months delay and one new expansion (two with '2010 incarna'). Also adding micropayments to the game, lowering isk value and not increasing eve staff....

Well maybe that expansions are free, but game itself isnt. People paying each month for game with one bugged expansion per year deserve something better and i think most of them will agree with that. And its in CCP interests to keep thoose people in the game, if there is a problem, a delay, they should employ more people, or better people to fix it so next time there will be no delay.

We are not in 2003 when there was only few interesring mmorpgs, hope you see it CCP.

wr3cks
Reliables Inc
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2010.11.12 00:57:00 - [190]
 

Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Rheige Bladewhisper
Originally by: Hrothgar Doran
And that $26 million a year is being divided into developement on 3 different games, only one of which is bringing in said revenue. And consider that wow (making $258 million a year) has only released 2 expanions so far, soon to be 3.

If they made a mistake, be happy they are correcting it sooner, rather than later. Or worse, never.


Here's the thing, though: We shouldn't be having money we spend on our game being sent off to making other ones and then used as an excuse. Trying to say that is just plain silly. As far as expansions go, WoW has had plenty of new-content releases that have added lots more to the game each time then CCP tends to with theirs.

Now, quibbling aside, I DO approve of this, CCP. Just remember that we're paying for EVE, not for your WoD game, if you'd please.



Do you think it would be sensible for CCP to only ever rely on one product? If not, how else should they fund the development? By selling out to a publisher?


I think it would be entirely sensible for a software company to have a single product that was well-made and profitable. Plenty of them do.

I also think it would be entirely sensible for a company with deep-pocketed backers (investors, a publisher, eccentric Russian aluminum tycoons) to raise growth capital to invest in expanding their product offerings. Lots of companies do that, too.

CCP thinks they can have their cake and eat it, too. Well, they said, we'll have everyone work on Apocrypha to gel our scrum teams, and then we'll have guys work on WoD and DUST, and the players won't notice the difference (or if they do, they'll be too addicted to quit in significant numbers). We'll continue to deliver some content to be integrated with these new releases and tie into the universe. Our marketing department says the average user plays for 9 or 10 months, and then quits, and sometimes they come back for new expansions, so we'll continue to roll out the expansions twice yearly.

Look, they said: people have been playing since 2003 with the same science/industry interface, the same POS mechanics and interface, a sizeable amount of ships and weapon systems in the game being near-useless or poorly balanced, boring and macro/bottable PVE content, punishingly boring sov mechanics, and a whole litany of flaws. If they've been putting up with that until 2008, then surely they won't mind another couple of years while we diversify our revenue streams.

Then, cracks started to appear. Their development schedule was overly ambitious -- they promised to do more than they were able, and to deliver it faster than was practical. Players/customers got pretty ****ed off, and did their best to tar the company with bad press for releasing buggy, poorly designed software. Veterans started leaving the game because they were bored, and the last new expansion actually resulted in a decrease in subscription revenue.

If I were Hilmar, I'd take several teams from Atlanta and Shanghai and put them on Eve. I'd say enough of this crap about microtransactions, we're just going to focus on making the game as fun and high-quality as possible, and the revenue side will take care of itself. Make it the kind of game that people excitedly tell their friends about, and get them to come play with them. Don't just go to war on RMTers, but also macro-botters, because if your game is played by a bunch of robots, the humans aren't going to have much fun. Fix interfaces to reduce tedium, balance ships and weapon systems on the doublequick, and don't be afraid to experiment. Then, once the game is shiny and growing quickly again, raise the sub cost to $20/month if you need more money.

But I'm not Hilmar, so I'm just gonna spend my remaining isk on GTCs to keep my skill queues active and hope the game gets better before I lose all interest.

Bomberlocks
Minmatar
CTRL-Q
Posted - 2010.11.12 00:59:00 - [191]
 

CCP, THIS is the way you do it. Excellent. Congratulations. It took a LOT of moaning, whining, megathreadnaughts, threats, pleading and plain downright shouting, but eventually you guys have stepped onto the plate and have begun to deliver patches the way they should be delivered. 10/10.

Jack Gilligan
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2010.11.12 01:03:00 - [192]
 

Originally by: Rikki Sals
Jack Gilligan seems mad.

But that's okay, it's entirely his prerogative to make cynical assumptions and dislike all the development goals of the game he's playing! Smile


Not mad. Disappointed.

CCP is supposed to be better than this.

Frankly I could care less if Incursion is ever released, there's not a thing in it that I think will be for me anyway. My disappointment is in the fact that over the last year CCP has shown extreme management and developer incompetence, the failure to put out a relatively meaningless expansion within MONTHS of it's release date just being the final exclamation point on what has inarguably been CCP's worst year of development in this game's history.

MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Posted - 2010.11.12 01:12:00 - [193]
 

Originally by: Jack Gilligan
Originally by: Rikki Sals
Jack Gilligan seems mad.

But that's okay, it's entirely his prerogative to make cynical assumptions and dislike all the development goals of the game he's playing! Smile


Not mad. Disappointed.

CCP is supposed to be better than this.

Frankly I could care less if Incursion is ever released, there's not a thing in it that I think will be for me anyway. My disappointment is in the fact that over the last year CCP has shown extreme management and developer incompetence, the failure to put out a relatively meaningless expansion within MONTHS of it's release date just being the final exclamation point on what has inarguably been CCP's worst year of development in this game's history.



and how does it make you feel that only 3 other people agree with you?

MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Posted - 2010.11.12 01:15:00 - [194]
 

Edited by: MotherMoon on 12/11/2010 01:16:44
Originally by: Rheige Bladewhisper
Originally by: MotherMoon
yes

That's what companies do.

That's what failing companies do.


failing companies invest in new opportunities?

god someone better tell Nintendo, blizzard, EA, Harmonix, Capcom, Mircosoft/ the guy that made mincraft.

The fact that they made more than one product is obviously why they are all failing companies.
Rolling Eyes

Also wr3cks, when i joined eve they had 20 devs total.

Now even with one third of thier total devs working on eve (as in 100 out of 300) that's still 5 times the number they used to have.

you sound like a spoiled brat.

Rheige Bladewhisper
Posted - 2010.11.12 01:38:00 - [195]
 

Originally by: MotherMoon
That's what failing companies do.


failing companies invest in new opportunities?

god someone better tell Nintendo, blizzard, EA, Harmonix, Capcom, Mircosoft/ the guy that made mincraft.

The fact that they made more than one product is obviously why they are all failing companies.
Rolling Eyes

Also wr3cks, when i joined eve they had 20 devs total.

Now even with one third of thier total devs working on eve (as in 100 out of 300) that's still 5 times the number they used to have.

you sound like a spoiled brat.


Failing companies try and split their resources and hope that noone notices, yes. Of all the ones that are theoretically working on EVE, very few are actually working on gameplay, or on fixing bugs. Most are working on a product that is just a shell-program for WoD.

Astenion
Gallente
Spiritus Draconis
Posted - 2010.11.12 01:53:00 - [196]
 

CCP probably realized that at this stage in the game, promising things they're not completely sure they can deliver is a bad idea. How much further can Eve go, save Incarna? Honestly? We have to look at things realistically. Station walking is the only thing left that would be considered a "huge" development for the game. DUST would be as well, but that's a completely different game and we're talking strictly Eve here. We've got great graphics, sound, gameplay, planetary involvement, freedom, and the only thing left would be station walking.

We play Eve because we love what it is, not because we want it to be something else. I think some of you may be setting the bar a little too high for what we're working with. CCP realized that it's only a matter of time before ideas to fill the free expansions dry up. With this expansion they're addressing lots of player issues, staggering the patches to ensure they're up to snuff, and introducing a new universe storyline-esque aspect to the game with Incursion. What more do you want from CCP? Do you think we'll eventually be able to land on planets in Eve and play it FPS or something? Stuff like that is never going to happen.

We should be thankful for what we have and that Incarna is still on the table. Even WoW is completely changing their universe because people ran out of things to do.

CCP realized they don't need the added pressure of coming up with two releases every year. If there's nothing really left to add content-wise, why invent some half-ass expansion? To fill a quota? Who cares...it's a smart move on their part. What would you add to Eve in another expansion besides station walking and the constant whining about weapon fixes? I'm talking real, no-sh!t new stuff to do that hasn't ever been done...can you think of anything? I surely can't. Eve is just about stretched to its limits, just enjoy it for what it is and be appreciative of the work they've already done. Blizzard's expansions take two years to come out...AND THEY'RE BLIZZARD. Look at the work CCP has done so far and be happy.

Rheige Bladewhisper
Posted - 2010.11.12 02:03:00 - [197]
 

Edited by: Rheige Bladewhisper on 12/11/2010 02:08:45
Edited by: Rheige Bladewhisper on 12/11/2010 02:08:22
Originally by: Astenion
Blizzard's expansions take two years to come out...AND THEY'RE BLIZZARD. Look at the work CCP has done so far and be happy.


I really don't see how people can keep parroting this statement as if it means anything. Seriously, does everyone that keeps stating this kind of thing just not read anything for themselves? =/ Yes, very large expansions take two years to come out. But in the interim, there are content updates that continually add new things to the game. I'd also point out, for the haters, that those have never nearly crippled the functionality that makes WoW a success - see the lagfests that replaced previously far more stable large-fleet actions.

I do quite enjoy EVE. If I did not, I would not be paying for it. I also think that, in the grand scheme of things, CCP finally admitting that they should wait on a release is a big step forward. To me it is the reason they are having to make us wait, the fact that 80 percent of EVE's dev staff are working on a project to influence another game, that is abhorrent to me.

Edit:
Oh, and here, for every halfwit that keeps talking about the number of expansions EVE has had versus WoW:
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/underdev/implemented/ there's 21 content pushes, not including the larger expansions themselves. Though some of them are relatively minor to the overall gameplay experience, there are still a heck of a lot there.

Astenion
Gallente
Spiritus Draconis
Posted - 2010.11.12 02:11:00 - [198]
 

I have mixed feelings about the staff working on WoD. On one hand, I can't wait to try WoD, but on the other it would be nice to see Incarna sooner. At the same time, I don't see how numbers would help Eve. Throwing more bodies at a problem doesn't necessarily mean more progress; it just means more people will water-down the project and get in the way of the original focus. Too many Indians and not enough chiefs just creates chaos.

Astenion
Gallente
Spiritus Draconis
Posted - 2010.11.12 02:14:00 - [199]
 

Originally by: Rheige Bladewhisper
Edited by: Rheige Bladewhisper on 12/11/2010 02:08:45
Edited by: Rheige Bladewhisper on 12/11/2010 02:08:22
Originally by: Astenion
Blizzard's expansions take two years to come out...AND THEY'RE BLIZZARD. Look at the work CCP has done so far and be happy.


I really don't see how people can keep parroting this statement as if it means anything. Seriously, does everyone that keeps stating this kind of thing just not read anything for themselves? =/ Yes, very large expansions take two years to come out. But in the interim, there are content updates that continually add new things to the game. I'd also point out, for the haters, that those have never nearly crippled the functionality that makes WoW a success - see the lagfests that replaced previously far more stable large-fleet actions.

I do quite enjoy EVE. If I did not, I would not be paying for it. I also think that, in the grand scheme of things, CCP finally admitting that they should wait on a release is a big step forward. To me it is the reason they are having to make us wait, the fact that 80 percent of EVE's dev staff are working on a project to influence another game, that is abhorrent to me.

Edit:
Oh, and here, for every halfwit that keeps talking about the number of expansions EVE has had versus WoW:
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/underdev/implemented/ there's 21 content pushes, not including the larger expansions themselves. Though some of them are relatively minor to the overall gameplay experience, there are still a heck of a lot there.


Yes, and look at the capital Blizzard has to work with. It didn't start with WoW and it took years to get there.

Rheige Bladewhisper
Posted - 2010.11.12 02:17:00 - [200]
 

Edited by: Rheige Bladewhisper on 12/11/2010 02:18:24
Originally by: Astenion
Yes, and look at the capital Blizzard has to work with. It didn't start with WoW and it took years to get there.


And? That's neither here nor there in regards to the point I made, that point being that the people that keep talking about there only being three expansions for WoW, as if this made EVE's content pushes greater in some way, are mouth-breathers.

Edit: Yes, this means that you are in fact being one as well, Astenion, and you are also trying to dodge the erroneous point you initially made and riposte with another, weaker one.

Emperor Cheney
Celebrity Sex Tape
Posted - 2010.11.12 02:28:00 - [201]
 

UI fixes and bug fixes, hell yes. Not sarcasm at all - this is the kind of update I've been waiting for. Thanks.

Rheige Bladewhisper
Posted - 2010.11.12 02:33:00 - [202]
 

Originally by: Emperor Cheney
UI fixes and bug fixes, hell yes. Not sarcasm at all - this is the kind of update I've been waiting for. Thanks.

Again, to keep from sounding like a superbitter supervet, I quite wholly agree here. This, in combination with the steady fixes to lag, are both ways to help slowly restore confidence in the product. I just hope that in their rush to work on WoD at the expense of EVE, and their finagling about with microtransactions, that CCP does not forget that trust is a currency.. one that they are currently somewhat low on, and need to build back up before trying to expend.

Ramman K'arojic
Posted - 2010.11.12 02:37:00 - [203]
 

Hey do we get PI improvements early or later.

Please end the click fest.

Astenion
Gallente
Spiritus Draconis
Posted - 2010.11.12 02:38:00 - [204]
 

Originally by: Rheige Bladewhisper
Edited by: Rheige Bladewhisper on 12/11/2010 02:18:24
Originally by: Astenion
Yes, and look at the capital Blizzard has to work with. It didn't start with WoW and it took years to get there.


And? That's neither here nor there in regards to the point I made, that point being that the people that keep talking about there only being three expansions for WoW, as if this made EVE's content pushes greater in some way, are mouth-breathers.

Edit: Yes, this means that you are in fact being one as well, Astenion, and you are also trying to dodge the erroneous point you initially made and riposte with another, weaker one.


There ARE only three expansions for WoW; the rest are just really big patches WHICH BLIZZ PUT OUT REGULARLY BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE *CAPITAL* (there's that word again which has somehow escaped you). Again, they can make these gargantuan patches and updates because they have both manpower and capital. A Blizzard update is equal to an entire CCP expansion, where is the disconnect here?

My point being, there's not much left to "expand" in Eve besides Incarna and fixes, and fixes aren't really expansions. If you wanna ***** about Eve being broken, that has nothing to do with the expansions, which is what I'm talking about. I'm not dodging any point whatsoever, just reiterating my original point that there's not much left to expand unless CCP can pull a few million subscribers out from under a rock somewhere. They're doing the best they can with what they've got.

Rheige Bladewhisper
Posted - 2010.11.12 02:43:00 - [205]
 

Originally by: Astenion
Originally by: Rheige Bladewhisper
Edited by: Rheige Bladewhisper on 12/11/2010 02:18:24
Originally by: Astenion
Yes, and look at the capital Blizzard has to work with. It didn't start with WoW and it took years to get there.


And? That's neither here nor there in regards to the point I made, that point being that the people that keep talking about there only being three expansions for WoW, as if this made EVE's content pushes greater in some way, are mouth-breathers.

Edit: Yes, this means that you are in fact being one as well, Astenion, and you are also trying to dodge the erroneous point you initially made and riposte with another, weaker one.


There ARE only three expansions for WoW; the rest are just really big patches WHICH BLIZZ PUT OUT REGULARLY BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE *CAPITAL* (there's that word again which has somehow escaped you). Again, they can make these gargantuan patches and updates because they have both manpower and capital. A Blizzard update is equal to an entire CCP expansion, where is the disconnect here?


The disconnect is that people try and use the term 'expansion' to indicate that there is some way that CCP is providing more content. All any of them are, at the end of the day, is content updates. And as for Blizzard, they didn't get to where they are by draining resources from their current money-maker to try and work on more niche, even higher risk markets.

That being said, part of how Blizzard did get to their current status as a financial juggernaut is by having a basic release philosophy of "when it's done, no earlier." It does appear that CCP is learning this, and I do applaud them for it. I just wish that it were for better reasons, this time around.

Hobson's Choice
Posted - 2010.11.12 02:47:00 - [206]
 

Who cares. You'll still be playing after the release :P


What is:
"Anti-aliasing support"
"UI optimization to contract delivery filtering"

Question

The rest seems pretty sweet to me (that i can understand from a single line)

Astenion
Gallente
Spiritus Draconis
Posted - 2010.11.12 02:51:00 - [207]
 

Edited by: Astenion on 12/11/2010 02:55:29
Edited by: Astenion on 12/11/2010 02:52:52
Originally by: Rheige Bladewhisper
Originally by: Astenion
Originally by: Rheige Bladewhisper
Edited by: Rheige Bladewhisper on 12/11/2010 02:18:24
Originally by: Astenion
Yes, and look at the capital Blizzard has to work with. It didn't start with WoW and it took years to get there.


And? That's neither here nor there in regards to the point I made, that point being that the people that keep talking about there only being three expansions for WoW, as if this made EVE's content pushes greater in some way, are mouth-breathers.

Edit: Yes, this means that you are in fact being one as well, Astenion, and you are also trying to dodge the erroneous point you initially made and riposte with another, weaker one.


There ARE only three expansions for WoW; the rest are just really big patches WHICH BLIZZ PUT OUT REGULARLY BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE *CAPITAL* (there's that word again which has somehow escaped you). Again, they can make these gargantuan patches and updates because they have both manpower and capital. A Blizzard update is equal to an entire CCP expansion, where is the disconnect here?


The disconnect is that people try and use the term 'expansion' to indicate that there is some way that CCP is providing more content. All any of them are, at the end of the day, is content updates. And as for Blizzard, they didn't get to where they are by draining resources from their current money-maker to try and work on more niche, even higher risk markets.

That being said, part of how Blizzard did get to their current status as a financial juggernaut is by having a basic release philosophy of "when it's done, no earlier." It does appear that CCP is learning this, and I do applaud them for it. I just wish that it were for better reasons, this time around.


I'm right there with you on that point. A lot of these "expansions" are basically fixes with a few do-dad time wasters, i.e., PI. The concept is really cool but the real thing is somewhat lacking. Like I said in my original post, if CCP comes out with Incarna as the Santa surprise at Christmas, THAT would be a monster expansion.

Blizzard is now able to be the powerhouse it is and release high quality stuff because they have the money and resources to do it. They didn't get these resources from WoW, they got it from Warcraft, Warcraft 2, Starcraft, Diablo, and Diablo 2; WoW is simply their sugar daddy that affords them the opportunity to continue releasing big stuff. CCP's first real moneymaker was Eve. So in effect, Eve is Warcraft. Not WoW, but Warcraft. When CCP makes WoD and a whole slew of other top-notch games, Eve 2 will be friggin' mind-blowing. However, Eve's pretty damn good as it is, seeing as it's their primary moneymaker.

Rheige Bladewhisper
Posted - 2010.11.12 02:57:00 - [208]
 

Originally by: Astenion
Blizzard is now able to be the powerhouse it is and release high quality stuff because they have the money and resources to do it. They didn't get these resources from WoW, they got it from Warcraft, Warcraft 2, Starcraft, Diablo, and Diablo 2; WoW is simply their sugar daddy that affords them the opportunity to continue releasing big stuff. CCP's first real moneymaker was Eve. So in effect, Eve is Warcraft. Not WoW, but Warcraft. When CCP makes WoD and a whole slew of other top-notch games, Eve 2 will be friggin' mind-blowing. However, Eve's pretty damn good as it is, seeing as it's their primary moneymaker.


Indeed, and the reason they got there is because of accepting the philosophy of "when it's done." Just like Valve, and any other company that relies on their product being quality. I really do hope CCP is starting to understand that. I really and truly do.

Astenion
Gallente
Spiritus Draconis
Posted - 2010.11.12 03:00:00 - [209]
 

Originally by: Hobson's Choice
Who cares. You'll still be playing after the release :P


What is:
"Anti-aliasing support"
"UI optimization to contract delivery filtering"

Question

The rest seems pretty sweet to me (that i can understand from a single line)


Anti-aliasing support means in layman's terms that the graphics are gonna get significantly better and more realistic-looking. Less sharp edges, more natural curves, etc.

Clacker McDucky
Posted - 2010.11.12 03:02:00 - [210]
 

I don't know why the hell people are complaining about this.

I think it's pretty astounding to expect 2 major expansions a year that are not buggy, given the enormity of creating new releases (like Dominion and Tyranis).

Frankly, I'd prefer a single, stable release every year versus two buggy releases that cause problems (like "spacial anomolies" in large fleet fights) that make the best elements of Eve difficult or impossible to use.


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