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Tatal Zmeu
Caldari
The 8th Order
Posted - 2010.11.11 10:51:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Tatal Zmeu on 14/11/2010 06:29:44
Due to popular requests this has been shortened from a 5 minute waste of life to the following:

- IT got lots of supercaps. Someone gank the pinata.

Bobbechk
Caldari
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.11.11 10:59:00 - [2]
 

0 sec is exactly the amount of time it took me to not read this

Tatal Zmeu
Caldari
The 8th Order
Posted - 2010.11.11 11:07:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Bobbechk
0 sec is exactly the amount of time it took me to not read this


And 1 is how many IT supercarriers/titans PL has ganked so far.

Faekurias
Caldari
Muppet Ninja's
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
Posted - 2010.11.11 11:07:00 - [4]
 

I read this Neutral

Andrejs L
Caldari
Constantine.
Posted - 2010.11.11 11:10:00 - [5]
 

No u

Kai Lae
Gallente
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2010.11.11 11:34:00 - [6]
 

I read the OP up to the point where he claimed that we've overlooked the development of bob. Somehow the last 5+ years since they invaded fountain seem to disagree.

Jones Bones
Minmatar
Burning Napalm
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2010.11.11 11:35:00 - [7]
 

Sigh, I read it.

TL:DR
Poster thinks IT is going to take over all of 0.0 because no one is banding together to invade them.

This is not a repeat from 2004...2005...2006...GET OUT OF MY HEAD

ScheenK
Gallente
Constantine.
Posted - 2010.11.11 11:36:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: ScheenK on 11/11/2010 11:37:20
Edited by: ScheenK on 11/11/2010 11:36:52
everyone in this thread, is now dumber for having read this,u dont know w tf you are talking about, we award u no points, and god have mercy on your soul

Naecuss
Minmatar
Interstellar eXodus
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2010.11.11 11:45:00 - [9]
 

It's called evolution.

Titan's, SCand Mom's are available to all, nothing is impossible.

Train the skills by the ships and die.. end off So what if IT, NC, INIT, DRF and many other Medium entities have many to boot.

Have you got one. I am going to start carrier skills and then get me a Nidhoggur then work my isk for the next big toy.

So don't worry about the next man worry about your own sitauation. I am

Tatal Zmeu
Caldari
The 8th Order
Posted - 2010.11.11 11:51:00 - [10]
 

No, I wasn't saying everybody was ignoring IT.

My point was the NC and/or DR should invade IT, not each other. IT hasn't been invaded a single time since they took Fountain almost a year ago. In the whole time they've been building supercaps and dropping stations like crazy. Attacking them now could lead to juicy supercap kills whereas waiting longer will mean they won't stand a chance coalition vs coalition. Not to forget that atm Initiative are still sorting out their new space and diplo surrounding it, but months from now they're going to have a competent force to contribute to the IT block.




aeoluse
Gallente
The Capitalist Protectorate
Mad Scientists
Posted - 2010.11.11 11:52:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: aeoluse on 11/11/2010 11:59:20
Edited by: aeoluse on 11/11/2010 11:57:39
Originally by: Tatal Zmeu
...IT have never fought for their regions...


At this point I realised this was a troll disguised as a real poster. Maybe before you post on a subject you need to do your research first and know Eve history. I am not saying that IT are the most powerful and bestest alliance in Eve (clearly that is INIT Very Happy ) but they have a longer history than just the last year.

If you aren't trolling, then I have a question: would you rather travel all the way to Delve and Querious from the North and the East or have a good old scrap in your own back yard where logistics wouldn't be as much of a problem?

Originally by: Tatal Zmeu
No, I wasn't saying everybody was ignoring IT.

My point was the NC and/or DR should invade IT, not each other. IT hasn't been invaded a single time since they took Fountain almost a year ago. In the whole time they've been building supercaps and dropping stations like crazy. Attacking them now could lead to juicy supercap kills whereas waiting longer will mean they won't stand a chance coalition vs coalition. Not to forget that atm Initiative are still sorting out their new space and diplo surrounding it, but months from now they're going to have a competent force to contribute to the IT block.


How long have you been playing? The NC are doing exactly the same thing as IT...making isk and building supers.

And yes we are not competent (just ask anyone, especially Stainwagon, RoL and -A-, they will give you an unbiased and accurate assessment of our ability) and we would not contribute anything to stopping an invasion by the saintly and righteous NC if they came and attacked IT. Because removing one of the 3 major powerblocs would make Eve 0.0 a much more dynamic and interesting place to live.

I know this is a troll but a fun one.

Edit for spelling and grammar.

Tatal Zmeu
Caldari
The 8th Order
Posted - 2010.11.11 11:59:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: aeoluse
Originally by: Tatal Zmeu
...IT have never fought for their regions...


At this point I realised this was a troll disguised as a real poster. Maybe before you post on a subject you need to do your research first and know Eve history. I am not saying that IT are the most powerful and bestest alliance in Eve (clearly that is INIT Very Happy ) but they have a longer history than just the last year.




You're clearly misinformed. IT has zero history pre-2010 Fountain invasion. I think everybody knows the story about BOB and its pseudo reincarnation IT, but fact is since reforming as IT they have not fought any significant battles nor had to defend their space. I know what I'm talking about, I was there when IT "won" Fountain and *****d on 3 of the 4 Titan KMs myself.


aeoluse
Gallente
The Capitalist Protectorate
Mad Scientists
Posted - 2010.11.11 12:08:00 - [13]
 

So your saying that even if the same corps/players reform into another alliance then that they become new players with no memory and experience? That they cannot draw on years of experience and history they have gained from a previous alliance with the same corps in it (and adding in new blood) and thus makes them weak?

So Goonswarn Federation is in the same boat? Since the previous incarnation left Delve and reformed under another name they have have not fought for their space. And NCdot (yes they lost some supers but ignoring that), their corps just happen to work well together and that has nothing to do with most of them being in a previous alliance together (Tri Mk 1,2,3,4,5,6,etc).

Dlardrageth
Amarr
ANZAC ALLIANCE
Posted - 2010.11.11 12:11:00 - [14]
 

As we all clearly know the 40-odd people in the 8th Order are the only people ever defending their space in this game... Rolling Eyes

On a further note... WTS tinfoil... Laughing

aeoluse
Gallente
The Capitalist Protectorate
Mad Scientists
Posted - 2010.11.11 12:12:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Dlardrageth
On a further note... WTS tinfoil... Laughing


Can I have some? Mine seems to have fallen off and got blown away in the wind in my house...

Xybex
Gallente
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.11.11 12:28:00 - [16]
 

Check out dis fuggin hamster: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cf06WJQ4FnE.

It totally doesn't know what rubber is.

aeoluse
Gallente
The Capitalist Protectorate
Mad Scientists
Posted - 2010.11.11 12:57:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Xybex
Check out dis fuggin hamster: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cf06WJQ4FnE.

It totally doesn't know what rubber is.


I'd be worried dude, according to the OP because you haven't fought for your space yet, you should be removed because you might be building SMD (Ships of Mass Destruction), if you would like to speak to a counsellor or would just like to talk through your options. Please contact the OP and arrange for all your space to be given over to an alliance/coalition who has fought for their space and would not build SMD's, like the NC or the Drone Russians. I am sure this transaction will be done at minimal cost to yourselves and you might even be allowed to rent the space afterwards.

Nice vid as well. Doesn't the hamster look like its half ninja?!

Vicious Cell
Amarr
Grim Determination
Nulli Secunda
Posted - 2010.11.11 12:57:00 - [18]
 

OP, no single nullsec Alliance has ever controlled 100% of nullsec in all seven years of Eve history. Not even close to it. And no single Alliance ever will control the entire map. You're really too paranoid of IT or jealous or both. Anyways, no matter how many Titans an Alliance has, taking control of the entire nullsec map with just one Alliance is pretty much impossible, actually: literally impossible.

And yes, I'd like to invest into some of those tinfoil caps as well. I'm sure the OP will up the sales of them quite a bit. sigh.

Tatal Zmeu
Caldari
The 8th Order
Posted - 2010.11.11 12:58:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: aeoluse
So your saying that even if the same corps/players reform into another alliance then that they become new players with no memory and experience? That they cannot draw on years of experience and history they have gained from a previous alliance with the same corps in it (and adding in new blood) and thus makes them weak?

So Goonswarn Federation is in the same boat? Since the previous incarnation left Delve and reformed under another name they have have not fought for their space. And NCdot (yes they lost some supers but ignoring that), their corps just happen to work well together and that has nothing to do with most of them being in a previous alliance together (Tri Mk 1,2,3,4,5,6,etc).


Pretty decent job at trolling you're doing there. Do you know how many of the original BOB are now in IT?
Are you telling me BOB, which had what, 1k players, somehow multiplied and cloned themselves into the 6000+ players they have now? Just because it's the same leadership team doesn't mean it's the same alliance. The players are as important to an alliance as is its leadership. Goonswarm Fed on the other hand consists largely of former Goonswarm members.

aeoluse
Gallente
The Capitalist Protectorate
Mad Scientists
Posted - 2010.11.11 13:23:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Tatal Zmeu
Pretty decent job at trolling you're doing there. Do you know how many of the original BOB are now in IT?
Are you telling me BOB, which had what, 1k players, somehow multiplied and cloned themselves into the 6000+ players they have now? Just because it's the same leadership team doesn't mean it's the same alliance. The players are as important to an alliance as is its leadership. Goonswarm Fed on the other hand consists largely of former Goonswarm members.


Just to point out on your numbers, when BoB folded it had around 3000 members...Look here...I'm not saying that everyone is exactly the same (if you read I did say adding new blood), but there is probably a very large amount of the same people. There is also more in IT Alliance and less GBC members this time, that might account for a single large alliance.

Question back at you: how many of the people who make up NC are exactly the same as the the people who were in the NC say last year or 2 years ago? The NC has lots of new alliances in there with new corps (INIT used to be in the NC B-Team), so you are saying that just because an alliance changes some of its players it automatically gets worse? Just from the point of view of INIT, we have gained some excellent corps who have added immensely to the alliance, and are very much stronger for it (<3 SP0RE and FREEE). Also just within my corp we have had players leave and good new ones come.

Goonswarm Federation probably does have a lot of the same players but I bet my bottom dollar that they have lots of new ones as well, and a large number of the people in Goonswarm actually went to other alliances like TEST and (funnily) WIdot.

You say the members are as important as the leadership. We have seen recently (Atlas and -A-) what happened when your leadership goes afk or just leaves (-A- have rallied unlike Atlas though, which is a credit to their leadership for turning it around), leading an alliance is like herding cats (according to people who know these things, I don't but I have been told), they are great when they all go in the right direction and do things together but are selfish and lazy when they don't. So I would say that good leadership in Eve is more important that really good members. An excellent FC with 20 noobs will do more than 10 great individual pilots.

Oli Robbo
Gallente
Entity.
Posted - 2010.11.11 13:25:00 - [21]
 

Edited by: Oli Robbo on 11/11/2010 13:27:22
not even going to waste my time.



aeoluse
Gallente
The Capitalist Protectorate
Mad Scientists
Posted - 2010.11.11 14:13:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Oli Robbo
Edited by: Oli Robbo on 11/11/2010 13:27:22
not even going to waste my time.



I usually wouldn't but its been a slow day...say hi to Bobba for me Smile

boliano
Caldari
Fallen Angel's
White Noise.
Posted - 2010.11.11 14:40:00 - [23]
 

I seriously have a headache now, Ok TATAL just show me on the stuffed clown where mr molle touched you.

Lord Saradomin
Gallente
Nex Exercitus
Raiden.
Posted - 2010.11.11 15:21:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: boliano
I seriously have a headache now, Ok TATAL just show me on the stuffed clown where mr molle touched you.


He got booted for being crap and very annoying...look's like he hasn't learnt his lesson... Rolling Eyes

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2010.11.11 15:41:00 - [25]
 

So let me get this straight:

DRF is the largest powerbloc the NC have to deal with

The NC is the largest powerbloc the DRF have to deal with

They're right next door to each other and had just finished fighting over Geminate.

But both of them should worry more about a considerably smaller powerbloc that isn't involved in fighting with either of them, and is busy with a war of its own, and isn't close to either of them?

You speak as if 20 Titans was an unbelievable number. But I saw the NC field 15+ Titans vs a subcap fleet back in MAX2. I hardly think they have fewer now than they did then. And the DRF have done nothing but crap out caps and supercaps for 3 years - that's all the drone regions are good for.

moranno
Caldari
ANZAC ALLIANCE
IT Alliance
Posted - 2010.11.11 15:48:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Tatal Zmeu
...stuff....


On a serious note, WOT servers are down for 8 hours today. 8 hours!! New patch day and all, u know..just sayin`

Snot Shot
Minmatar
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
The 0rphanage
Posted - 2010.11.11 16:23:00 - [27]
 


@OP - Don’t make me come over there and beat you senseless with my old posts about “Goonturds being the Cancer of EVE” and “Playtex Legion is killing the game” rants!! I personally positioned both those Alliances to fail cascade with my propaganda and I’ll do it again to your Alliance if I have to…….YARRRR!!

Fly safe everyone..

Metal Dude
Gallente
Destructive Influence
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2010.11.11 16:59:00 - [28]
 

Did we touch you in your special place little NC. alt? Oh yea, we did. Quick, to the forums. Rolling Eyes

Funky Feeling
Caldari
Interstellar eXodus
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2010.11.11 17:04:00 - [29]
 

Oh Come on.. IT is alive and well solely because we in Br1ck hate the Russians more. When Sir Molle starts quoting the Tzar.. he better watch out.

Hyveres
Caldari
Resilience.
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2010.11.11 17:40:00 - [30]
 

And nobody ever stops to consider how many of those 6k chars that are cynoalts


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