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Dum Dumb
Posted - 2010.11.10 04:16:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Dum Dumb on 10/11/2010 04:25:26
Motherboard: Crosshair IV extreme - PC12800 max supported.

I dont understand that because ive seen rigs running with higher speeds. Anyways I can get 4 gb of pc 16000/DDR3-2000 ram for the same cost as 12800/DDR3-1600 ram should i get the 12800/2000 ram because the 16000/1600 isnt supported??.

Also would I be better off getting 8 gb of PC 10667/1333 Ram over 4gb of faster ram on a 64bit OS. I seriously doubt ill use the 4gb but I dont know if I would be better with less but faster ram or more but slower. I dont understand ram at all :P.

Also how important is the timings. Is there a big differance between cl8 and cl9. I really tried to learn this crap but there isnt any nice pictures or simple drawings to explain it in wiki. Rolling Eyes

Edit: There will be overclocking involved

Caleidascope
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2010.11.10 05:18:00 - [2]
 

PC12800 tells you the peak rate at which data moved to and from memory. 12800 mega bytes per second.

I like picking memory by the bus speed. So I look for DDR3-(bus speed). If your bus speed is 1333 MHz, then I would look for DDR3-1333 or faster. The bus speed will always be your bottleneck. You can not go faster, move more data per unit of time, than your bus because bus connects all the devices together.

Scorpyn
Caldari
Infinitus Odium
Posted - 2010.11.10 20:48:00 - [3]
 

Frequency is more important than low CL.

If you're going to overclock then you may want to get faster ram than what the motherboard "supports" (note that some motherboards list the maximum overclock speed as what they support, download the manual and read it).

I wouldn't overclock though. No warranty, less reliability, more sound, not much noticeable performance gain.

How much ram you need/want depends on what you do. If you can use 4gb without running out of ram (including cache), then go with that if it's faster. If not, get 8gb.

Caleidascope
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2010.11.10 21:43:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Scorpyn
Frequency is more important than low CL.

If you're going to overclock then you may want to get faster ram than what the motherboard "supports" (note that some motherboards list the maximum overclock speed as what they support, download the manual and read it).

I wouldn't overclock though. No warranty, less reliability, more sound, not much noticeable performance gain.

How much ram you need/want depends on what you do. If you can use 4gb without running out of ram (including cache), then go with that if it's faster. If not, get 8gb.

The specs on newegg.com says:
Factory bus speeds: 1066, 1333 MHz
Maximum overclocked bus speed: 2000 MHz
Maximum RAM: 16 GB

So the maximum OP can do is buy 16 GB of DDR3-2000 (or faster) RAM.

alittlebirdy
Posted - 2010.11.12 00:56:00 - [5]
 

benches = speed real world performance is lat's so slower ram...

8 gigs...

Google to learn more.

your gona overclock but you can not tell what ram your board can take
lol lol

o btw lol

Zions Child
Caldari
The Resident Haunting
Posted - 2010.11.12 03:52:00 - [6]
 

I am currently running Windows 7 64-bit with 4GB of 2000MHz (OC'ed) DDR3 RAM... The speed is nice, but I'd like another 4GB of RAM. It might not seem like you will hit 4GB but its surprisingly easy.

I'd go with 8GB of the slower RAM.

Dum Dumb
Posted - 2010.11.15 19:55:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: alittlebirdy
benches = speed real world performance is lat's so slower ram...

8 gigs...

Google to learn more.

your gona overclock but you can not tell what ram your board can take
lol lol

o btw lol


Actually from what I understand, obviously not taking any thing from your useless information is. That if I get faster ram it will just clock down to the 12800 but when I increase the FSB having faster ram comes in handy because I dont need to fool around with it because it can already go to 16000 rather then me having to overclock the ram manually, it will just clock up.

When I tryed doing this on my very outdated pc. I crashed it a few times until I realised that I had increased the ram speed too much with the **** stock ram I have and it was crapping out at 400mhz :P. I increased the volts and I got it to go a bit higher.

I found out doing it your self is alot easier to learn then trying to read up on it, though I am much more of a practical person. Im sure ill figure it out when the pc arrives or ill just melt it either way lesson learned.

alittlebirdy
Posted - 2010.11.17 02:40:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: alittlebirdy on 17/11/2010 02:43:42
Called the DRAM ratio, you change it when you OC, I can make my 1333 ram, run at 800, then OC the baseclock to whatever and still not hit 1333.

Infact that is HOW you OC, you set your ram WAY under it's rated clock, OC the CPU, then when happy, work on the ram. You failed at overclocking lol.

It will also have better timing @ a slower speed (or less voltage) than the stock speed, it has other SPD's on it.

Ya do it yourself lol, you already said you failed at overclocking so... you have fun with that.

o ya it aint the board, its the CPU that can't support the speed... but ya, again you learn nothing... I mean edumcationz are overeated... on anything...

Edit: should change the title to ram help for person to lazy to learn.


 

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