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Victoria Stecker
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
Posted - 2010.11.08 16:40:00 - [61]
 

Originally by: Syyl'ara


Does anyone else enjoy it when people get a head of steam and end up revealing their true intentions?


You'll have to forgive Ratokus for being a little upset with these pricks. When they set us from neutral to KOS, their diplomats neglected to inform us and instead went and destroyed a rather nice ship of his while we believed they were still friendly. Needless to say, he was upset. Additionally, he does not speak for U'K, and neither do I, but we are free to express our opinions here.


Thorvik
Minmatar Ship Construction Services
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2010.11.08 16:49:00 - [62]
 

Edited by: Thorvik on 08/11/2010 16:50:13
Thorvik sits on the flight deck of his Vagabond class Assault ship in E02 and laughs out loud at the pedantic BS being flung by the self appointed leaders of the Great Wildlands. I may be Sebiestor but was raised by the Thukkers. My nomadic lifestyle within Ushra’Khan fits my upbringing and now this Foundation failure is trying to tell us what we can and cannot do? That is not the Thukker way. If there is one thing that Thukkers can all agree on it is that no one tells us what to do, how to act or what to think. We are nomads and will fight for the right to be independent above anything else.

This statement here says it all:
Originally by: Nykitah


Nearly a month ago, these damn Goon-wannabes contacted us back when they were in Damu'Khonde, askin' for standings and **** like that. Apparently, these bastards heard about us already livin' there and operatin' NRDS and all that. So they wannabe all buddy-buddy. Didn't see nothin' wrong with that at first. Well, we talk... and talk some more... apparently, they ain't too happy about adoptin' a common list of standings.




We will not allow someone else to dictate standings of the Ushra'Khan Alliance. Pretty simple really.
Nykitah just doesn't get it.

The Thukkers are dispersed through many regions in this and other space. We live the way we always have and each Tribal lays his own (and his tribe’s) course. This includes standings. If you have not fired upon us then we will not fire upon you. That is NRDS. All this other huffin’ and puffin’ is for nought.

I find it humorous that Time 3290 says that we are docked in various places. Their docking games the other night saw RE-AL lose a Claymore, Blackbird , Scorpion, Drake, 2 Hurricanes and an Ares. The Claymore was especially fun as 5 other RE-AL ships stood on station and looked at 3 Vagabonds tear the command ship apart. There was no talk, just action and your action resulted in failure. RE-AL even had a Falcon undock and had us jammed until he docked again and down went the Drake he was protecting.

As any Thukker will tell you. Put up or shut up. We did come to the Great Wildlands to rest and recuperate for a bit and despite being NRDS we are forced to fight this former Foundation garbage that was left behind with they folded.

It’s time to take out the garbage.

Ratokus
Sarz'na Khumatari
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2010.11.08 16:51:00 - [63]
 

Meh, a ship is a ship and is easily replaced.
However, the Race traitors of RE-AL trying to sell vitoc and slaves on the local E02 bandwidths, and then spouting their distain for the ammarian empire in the summit, smacks of hipocrasy and is exactly what I have come to expect from the short time I have know our new "friends".

But you are right, the time for talk is over. We'll see you in space. I can sell you some not overly priced stront in GW, you'll be needing it.

Nykitah
Posted - 2010.11.08 17:01:00 - [64]
 

Edited by: Nykitah on 08/11/2010 17:01:29
Ya mad or somethin'?

time 3290
Unforeseen Consequences.
THE UNTHINKABLES
Posted - 2010.11.08 17:10:00 - [65]
 

Originally by: Ratokus
Meh, a ship is a ship and is easily replaced.
However, the Race traitors of RE-AL trying to sell vitoc and slaves on the local E02 bandwidths, and then spouting their distain for the ammarian empire in the summit, smacks of hipocrasy and is exactly what I have come to expect from the short time I have know our new "friends".

But you are right, the time for talk is over. We'll see you in space. I can sell you some not overly priced stront in GW, you'll be needing it.



I really hope so im sick off campping you in stations and your pos talk is easy so get all your blues and hell there alot and do somthing!!

Victoria Stecker
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
Posted - 2010.11.08 17:12:00 - [66]
 

Originally by: Nykitah
Edited by: Nykitah on 08/11/2010 17:01:29
Ya mad or somethin'?


Always, but that's just who I am. Thank you for giving me something to take it out on. Your tears have been delicious, Nuknuk.

Borza Slavak
Minmatar
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2010.11.08 17:15:00 - [67]
 

Republic Alliance: Least diplomatic diplomats since YC111

SpynEs
Trannyz
Republic Alliance
Posted - 2010.11.08 18:15:00 - [68]
 

Allow me to introduce myself i represent the rent is too damn high party

people working 8 hours a day and 40 hours a week and some a 3rd job

women cant afford to take care their children, feed their children breakfast, lunch and dinner

my main job is to provide a roof over your head, food on your table and money in your pocket

this is politics as usual, playing the silly game but this is not going to happen

the rent is too damn high movement - the people im here to represent

cant afford to pay their rent, they are being layed off right now as I speak

they cant eat breakfast, lunch or dinner

listen someones stomach churn child stomach just growled, did you hear it?

Gotta listen like me.

Kazzzi
Amarr
Heathen Legion
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2010.11.08 21:21:00 - [69]
 

I was really looking forward to relaxing and taking a much needed rest after Provi, then hopefully starting another campaign against the 24IC. But like they say, need to play the cards you're dealt.

Ugleb
Minmatar
Sarz'na Khumatari
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2010.11.08 23:01:00 - [70]
 

Originally by: Sinti Vailatti
Originally by: Mad Murgan
Edited by: Mad Murgan on 08/11/2010 06:50:41
um...Ms. Sinti...
Could you please not insult my friends in such a vulger manner please.
I know it's a lot to ask from someone who doesn't know what decorum is, but seriously, please try and be civil...


My dear, sweet Mr. Murgan. I'm so terribly sorry that my statements caused you so much stress. You are correct in that the *****, I'm sorry, I mean dear, sweet Victoria and I have a bit of a history.

In short, about six months ago, she was responsible for the murder of a fellow slave. This murder she not only freely admits to, but is rather proud of. Further, it is believed that the victim's cybernetics were then sold to the Nation, just prior to the start of the incursions which have cost millions of Matari lives. She is also guilty of many more atrocities.

If this is the kind of person you feel best represents U'K in their drive to "free" our "people" then that pretty much goes against everything that was mentioned in your mission statement at the beginning of this thread.

Oh and incidentially, I know you guys are new to U'K but do you think you could at least try not to sound like you're still in Star Fraction? that would add loads to your credibility.

As for the rest of your juvinile thread...

Here I am. Come free me.



You call yourself a slave, yet as far as I can see from a brief review your public account you are exactly where you chose to place yourself. You choose to call yourself a 'slave' when you have the ability to walk away at any moment. You compare yourself to victims while you enjoy the freedoms of being one of the elite.

You challenge us to "come free me", but whatever chains you pretend to wear are of your own making. You reinforce a heartfelt conviction of mine; our mission does not include any Capsuleer. No member of our elite breed can ever truly be enslaved, not like those bound to the mortal life we left behind.

Our goal is not to protect your business. Our goal is not to defend your investment or to protect one capsuleer from another. And it is certainly not to fix your anguished cry for help. If you are having difficulty adapting to your own immortality, I suggest you learn to live in healthier company.

Victorick
High House Of Shadows
Republic Alliance
Posted - 2010.11.08 23:48:00 - [71]
 

I am but a simple pilot that stands torn by these words, a member of the Republic Alliance, and a former member of Ushra’Kan. I have seen words with the passion Ushra’Kan has strived to keep, echo out into the deep lonely corner of our star bound solar systems. I have seen that fire, yet it does not grace me this day.

Is it because I stand on the other side of the targeting systems? I think not. Ushra’Kan has lost its fire, it has lost its passion, and all that made it the tyrant underdog that it once was.
You have turned a blind eye to the greed that governs not just you, but all that you call friend. You speak words of freedom, yet through your actions I see none.

You have become Tibus Heth in Alliance form, hiding behind words of freedom to commit such acts of violence, caring not for whom you hurt or what you destroy.

You say this is no invasion? You dare claim you come in peace?

Your tongues have become as twisted as the priests you face, your guns are loaded with corruption, your words drown in greed and lies, your cause is nothing more than a banner soaked in blood.

I am disappointed Ushra’Kan, we all are.

That is all.

Borza Slavak
Minmatar
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2010.11.08 23:56:00 - [72]
 

Flowery words, but it was the egotistical powerbrokers in your alliance who engineered this conflict. Diplomats and leader unwilling to meet us half way, unwilling to show respect or courtesy to a potential ally, and at the root of it unwilling to risk their primacy among NRDS alliances in the region. By following the same rules of engagement as Republic Alliance yet without bowing to their every whim as the other NRDS groups in the area do we were a threat to their authority, whether that was our intention or not.

Victorick
High House Of Shadows
Republic Alliance
Posted - 2010.11.08 23:59:00 - [73]
 

Originally by: Borza Slavak
Flowery words, but it was the egotistical powerbrokers in your alliance who engineered this conflict. Diplomats and leader unwilling to meet us half way, unwilling to show respect or courtesy to a potential ally, and at the root of it unwilling to risk their primacy among NRDS alliances in the region. By following the same rules of engagement as Republic Alliance yet without bowing to their every whim as the other NRDS groups in the area do we were a threat to their authority, whether that was our intention or not.


All of this is fact, I never claimed otherwise.

Victoria Stecker
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
Posted - 2010.11.09 01:27:00 - [74]
 

Originally by: Victorick

All of this is fact, I never claimed otherwise.


In that case you make a bunch of baseless accusations with nothing to back them up.

We will say that we came in peace, Victorick. As an alliance, we wanted no part in your little tussle with those you term pirates. Unfortunately, your leaders decided to force us to pick a side in the fight, and in so doing ensured that we would not be on yours. I'm sure that if we had elected to bow to your wishes and gone to fight -V-, you'd be singing a different song.

We came in peace. You insisted that we not find it here in Great Wildlands. Now you reap the war you sowed.

Mei Tzu
Posted - 2010.11.09 01:30:00 - [75]
 

Edited by: Mei Tzu on 09/11/2010 01:32:38

Thorvik
Minmatar Ship Construction Services
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2010.11.09 01:34:00 - [76]
 

Edited by: Thorvik on 09/11/2010 01:40:48
Edited by: Thorvik on 09/11/2010 01:39:37
Originally by: Victorick
.....
You say this is no invasion? You dare claim you come in peace?

I am disappointed Ushra’Kan, we all are.



I am very amused by these two statements. You must know that this conflict is entirely manufactured by your diplomats? As a former U'K member you know that we do not allow anyone to dictate our standings. Your diplos have attempted to impose on us the requirement that if we wish RE-AL to be blue w/ U'K then we need to conform to their mini-CVA tactics. We are free men and practice true NRDS. Don't fire upon us and we will not fire upon you. No one dictates who we can and cannot engage.

We have come in peace yet your leadership have chosen to fire upon us first. So be it but do not stand there and whine about being disappointed in us.

Which brings me to the second statement. Do you really think we care whether or not you are disappointed in us? If you once truly embraced the warrior spirit of an Ushra'Khan pilot then you must know that we do what we think is right. Being popular has never been our goal.

The Great Wildlands is our home. Either live with us in peace or against us but know that we will not be subservient to your leadership for any amount of whining and lies you spread. Talk to your diplos, ask for the unaltered logs.

We did not wish for this but will always defend ourselves if fired upon. You should know this already.

Victorick
High House Of Shadows
Republic Alliance
Posted - 2010.11.09 02:09:00 - [77]
 

Edited by: Victorick on 09/11/2010 02:10:21
Allow me to address some of the replies I have received, as it seems many of you have made a mistake when reading my earlier reply.

First and for-most, I speak not as a member of Republic Alliance, as they are merely the bloated beast I shield myself under, and I find it amusing they actually have diplomats, as they seem to be better at forging war, then preventing it.

With that said, allow me to respond.

Quote:
In that case you make a bunch of baseless accusations with nothing to back them up.


Baseless? No. I back all that I said before up with your actions, your words, your Alliance. With a little of my own opinion mixed in.

Quote:
We will say that we came in peace, Victorick. As an alliance, we wanted no part in your little tussle with those you term pirates. Unfortunately, your leaders decided to force us to pick a side in the fight, and in so doing ensured that we would not be on yours. I'm sure that if we had elected to bow to your wishes and gone to fight -V-, you'd be singing a different song.


I agree, however I find it hard to believe that peace was what you really came for, the actions of my Alliance aside.

Quote:
Now you reap the war you sowed.

I will not be reaping a single one of your pilots, as I feel it would be kicking a tyrant when he is down.

Quote:
I am very amused by these two statements. You must know that this conflict is entirely manufactured by your diplomats?


I do.

Quote:
As a former U'K member you know that we do not allow anyone to dictate our standings.


I do.

Quote:
Your diplos have attempted to impose on us the requirement that if we wish RE-AL to be blue w/ U'K then we need to conform to their mini-CVA tactics.


Yes they did.

Quote:
Which brings me to the second statement. Do you really think we care whether or not you are disappointed in us? If you once truly embraced the warrior spirit of an Ushra'Khan pilot then you must know that we do what we think is right. Being popular has never been our goal.


These words are the root of your problem, your eyes are as blind as the priests who throw themselves into 'gods' arms, finding only death. Ushra'Khan has fallen, maybe not the way I would of liked, but fallen nonetheless.

I leave this discussion now, as I grow tired of this banter, but I cannot help but leave you with this.

I once fought with warriors, true men and women of the sky. Those men and women have now left, and I wonder if any can truly take the place of the pilots who fought for freedom, not for blood.

I can only hope.

CCP Jericho

Posted - 2010.11.09 02:38:00 - [78]
 

Trolling posts removed.

Dave Daze
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.11.09 03:54:00 - [79]
 

Edited by: Dave Daze on 09/11/2010 03:58:33
you guys sound like the Sansha with your 'We come for our people'

Originally by: Xious
We are united, under one focus, with a singular goal. You may try to impede us, many have, some have succeded. But you will never stop us. Our goal is freedom for all.

For unity and freedom!


WOW now it really gets scary ShockedWink

Aiwha
Caldari
101st Space Marine Force
Nulli Secunda
Posted - 2010.11.09 07:05:00 - [80]
 

Originally by: Borza Slavak
Republic Alliance: Least diplomatic diplomats since YC111


The best diplomats are the least diplomatic.

zoolkhan
Minmatar
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2010.11.09 07:32:00 - [81]
 

Edited by: zoolkhan on 09/11/2010 07:33:22
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: Borza Slavak


Ushra'Khan has for years been following the path of freeing our brethren from slavery.


What the Ushra'Khan has been doing for years is brutally attacking vessels belonging to slavers with the effect of killing as many slaves as they rescue.


a) you havent been there

ergo you dont know. You just "believe" .. which seem to be symtomatic and a collective problem for your race.

proof:

b) if you had been there - you would be dead, and your slaves would be citicens of the minmatar republic
and as free as yourself. Just with less obligations to please templepriests, monarcs, scripturess and a monotheistic god.

Maybe old foe - hwo has rarely crossed our, or other freedom fighters paths in the past years -
you should stop relying on aralis, and garrecks propaganda?

This would do your own reputation good, and people might pay more attantion to your words,
than to those of meaningless worms such as tarac.




Lord Makk
Trust Doesn't Rust
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2010.11.09 07:50:00 - [82]
 

Round em' up and give em' in UK.

GW sounds like the place to go if you want to meet idiots.

We'll come up sometime and laugh at these terrible pilots together with you soon enough.

Furb Killer
Gallente
Posted - 2010.11.09 08:50:00 - [83]
 

Quote:
Republic Alliance: Least diplomatic diplomats since YC111

When i was neutral to UK and UK was in one of their NRDS, except where we live, phases, i got shot by UK in low sec. Upon contacting your diplos i got some nice advice on different ways how to kill myself outside my pod. So i doubt Republic Alliance diplos are that bad.


Anyway, am i wrong with the following summary of events:
UK decide to move to GW, announce it to everyone who wants to know, they just forget to inform the current inhabitants. These are NRDS, but got UK KOS (know that as a fact). They are nice enough to reset you, so peaceful cooperation is possible. You proceed to attack their friends and help their enemies, and you are surprised they set you back to KOS after you betrayed their trust? Quickly followed about a message that your goal is to take their moons.

Tarac Nor
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2010.11.09 09:24:00 - [84]
 

Originally by: Furb Killer
Quote:
Republic Alliance: Least diplomatic diplomats since YC111

When i was neutral to UK and UK was in one of their NRDS, except where we live, phases, i got shot by UK in low sec. Upon contacting your diplos i got some nice advice on different ways how to kill myself outside my pod. So i doubt Republic Alliance diplos are that bad.


Anyway, am i wrong with the following summary of events:
UK decide to move to GW, announce it to everyone who wants to know, they just forget to inform the current inhabitants. These are NRDS, but got UK KOS (know that as a fact). They are nice enough to reset you, so peaceful cooperation is possible. You proceed to attack their friends and help their enemies, and you are surprised they set you back to KOS after you betrayed their trust? Quickly followed about a message that your goal is to take their moons.


In the higher command of U'K there is always a hidden agenda, never take what they say on Galnet a face value. Sad thing is the common members are so blind that they don't see it and blindly follow.

time 3290
Unforeseen Consequences.
THE UNTHINKABLES
Posted - 2010.11.09 16:15:00 - [85]
 

Originally by: Victorick
I am but a simple pilot that stands torn by these words, a member of the Republic Alliance, and a former member of Ushra’Kan. I have seen words with the passion Ushra’Kan has strived to keep, echo out into the deep lonely corner of our star bound solar systems. I have seen that fire, yet it does not grace me this day.

Is it because I stand on the other side of the targeting systems? I think not. Ushra’Kan has lost its fire, it has lost its passion, and all that made it the tyrant underdog that it once was.
You have turned a blind eye to the greed that governs not just you, but all that you call friend. You speak words of freedom, yet through your actions I see none.

You have become Tibus Heth in Alliance form, hiding behind words of freedom to commit such acts of violence, caring not for whom you hurt or what you destroy.

You say this is no invasion? You dare claim you come in peace?

Your tongues have become as twisted as the priests you face, your guns are loaded with corruption, your words drown in greed and lies, your cause is nothing more than a banner soaked in blood.

I am disappointed Ushra’Kan, we all are.

That is all.



OOC comments removed. Spitfire

time 3290
Unforeseen Consequences.
THE UNTHINKABLES
Posted - 2010.11.09 16:27:00 - [86]
 

oops slaves

Astroyka
Caldari
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2010.11.09 16:28:00 - [87]
 

Edited by: Astroyka on 09/11/2010 22:19:58
Originally by: time 3290
The words are true but fall on deaf ears, U'K can see the lies and deception and we have lost respect for all people, we are weak. Ardishapur, Kador, Sarum, Kor-Azor, Tash-Murkon family will be calling us again!


Fixed it for you.

Atreu Tam
Minmatar
Free Space Initiative
Republic Alliance
Posted - 2010.11.09 16:33:00 - [88]
 

Edited by: Atreu Tam on 09/11/2010 16:38:40
Originally by: Furb Killer
Quote:
Republic Alliance: Least diplomatic diplomats since YC111

When i was neutral to UK and UK was in one of their NRDS, except where we live, phases, i got shot by UK in low sec. Upon contacting your diplos i got some nice advice on different ways how to kill myself outside my pod. So i doubt Republic Alliance diplos are that bad.


Anyway, am i wrong with the following summary of events:
UK decide to move to GW, announce it to everyone who wants to know, they just forget to inform the current inhabitants. These are NRDS, but got UK KOS (know that as a fact). They are nice enough to reset you, so peaceful cooperation is possible. You proceed to attack their friends and help their enemies, and you are surprised they set you back to KOS after you betrayed their trust? Quickly followed about a message that your goal is to take their moons.


Yes that is quite an accurate summary. But its all for the best, we where getting rather bored with Veritas. Not holding my breath but hopefully UK can give us some nice scraps. :)

Im also glad to report that UK has started their campaign against our real and imaginary pos's, calling in their friends in Two Inch Terror(props for one of the best alliance names out there), who lo and behold lost a Nagelfar and killed nothing... That's the spirit guys, keep up the good work.

zoolkhan
Minmatar
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2010.11.09 16:36:00 - [89]
 

Edited by: zoolkhan on 09/11/2010 16:40:59
Originally by: time 3290
They have lost respcect for all true role players


That is unfair, just last week i participated in roleplay with a gallente professional
from deck sixteen in the quafestation in pator.

I dressed up like a farmer from istodard II, you know... with those fancy spikes on the
gasplow panel. And the airfilter unit and this typical sidearm, which is more like
a universal tool/survival kit.

She pretended to be a combat pilot commander leading a athmosphere glider squadron
separated from her squad and crash landed on my fields...

What happenes next is nothing for public frequencies. But i certainly have not lost
respect for roleplay or people doing it.

She was classy, and i will book her again.









((ooc/with other words: if you respect roleplayers more than we do,
then don't use the word "roleplay" on intergalactic summit. Thank you. ))




Borza Slavak
Minmatar
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2010.11.09 16:42:00 - [90]
 

Originally by: Furb Killer

Anyway, am i wrong with the following summary of events:
UK decide to move to GW, announce it to everyone who wants to know, they just forget to inform the current inhabitants. These are NRDS, but got UK KOS (know that as a fact). They are nice enough to reset you, so peaceful cooperation is possible. You proceed to attack their friends and help their enemies, and you are surprised they set you back to KOS after you betrayed their trust? Quickly followed about a message that your goal is to take their moons.


We were in contact with RE-AL diplomats prior to the announcement of the move. They apparently forgot to tell their membership however, woops? We set nobody red who didn't attack us first, including some friends of RE-AL - supposed NRDS groups - who then went crying to Republic Alliance when we retaliated. Delicious hypocrite tears. As for helping their enemies we simply failed to oppose them. A relevant distinction. We never had RE-AL's trust, they are paranoid of anyone unwilling to bow to their demands.

Well it looks like you summary of events is indeed wrong, but good effort.


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