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Zeede Qinhua
Posted - 2010.11.03 05:55:00 - [31]
 

I'm starting to get very annoyed that the vast majority of the recent Chronicles have no ending, and are a complete loose end. It would be okay if they had a second part that addressed the characters and situations from the original Chronicle...but no, it's just loose end after loose end.

What did this Szekel guy take exactly? Where is he now? What happens to the three people being "questioned"? Who is questioning them?

I've read every Chronicle, and except for some of the early ones that are really more like EVE encyclopedia entries, the others at least have a beginning and an end.

Zeede

Rens Pricemaster
Posted - 2010.11.03 10:01:00 - [32]
 

I kind of like those 'slice of life' chrons that create more backstory for places that are actually within reach of players. Jita 4-4 is a good example.
Not everything has to be someone suffering a fate worse than death, sure there are LOTS of bad things going on but it is wayy overrepresented lately. Can't really say since when, but only noticed it after xenocracy. Since then, we've had almost all just tales of human suffering. Not to say the ones before were not dark or gritty, just that they actually had more depth and a plot. Not just get together a bunch of people and make them suffer.

Akrasjel Lanate
Gallente
Naquatech Conglomerate
Yulai Federation
Posted - 2010.11.03 11:17:00 - [33]
 

Nice chronicle

Axel Vindislaga
Posted - 2010.11.03 12:32:00 - [34]
 

WOW! Way to touch upon the source of every person alive's worst fear. And the ending I thought was satisfactory. He was broken having been drained of enough useful information in a reasonable amount of time.

Now where did I put my cyanide pill for in case of such an occurance....

Avernus
Gallente
Paragon Fury
Cascade Imminent
Posted - 2010.11.03 22:57:00 - [35]
 

Haven't even read the story yet, but wanted to quickly shout that the artist really out did himself. Very damn nice.

...ok, off to read the story now :D

Tryst Sabaro
Posted - 2010.11.06 01:02:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: Matt Armada
Originally by: Rens Pricemaster
The thing is, from other chrons, backstory, we know not everyone is evil, and its not as prevalent as chrons would have you believe. I'm just saying STOP REPORTING ON THE DARK SIDE ALL THE TIME! We know there is some good in new eden, show it.


It's to late, they're already changing the name of the game. Welcome to EVE Hammer 40K, where in the grim darkness of the future, there is only War....War, and Goonswarm.



That's hilarious, and deserves to be saved in a signature or something. I also a agree that the recent chronicles have been pretty dark, but the main story is heading in a pretty dark dirrection. It only makes sense for the back story to follow it there.

Pseudo Ucksth
The First One is Always Free
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2010.11.06 01:23:00 - [37]
 

Is Abraxas hanging around those White Wolf guys a lot? This is like a chapter preface from the core rulebook or something.

Tiberius Dresari
Caldari
Acerbus Vindictum
Posted - 2010.11.06 11:10:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: Rens Pricemaster
Edited by: Rens Pricemaster on 02/11/2010 01:07:40JUST SAYING IF YOU MAKE LIFE IN EVERY SINGLE CHRONICLE LIKE HELL, IT JUST SEEMS FORCED AND UNREALISTIC. Sure bad things happen, and I'm sure we like to read about it once in a while, but not every single chron. Give those fighting for a better world (empire missioners) some hope :D


I feel like the current ratio of depressing or morbid chronicles to the ones that you'd consider to have "happy" endings is pretty accurate for EVE, personally. There are just staggering amounts of people in this universe, and most of them have been stepped on and used like a lot of the people we read about in the chronicles.
This Kartanen guy is an overseer for this entire mining colony and is probably responsible for hundreds, maybe thousands of hard laborers on this particular desert planet (similar situations would exist on most likely every settled barren planet between the Forge and Fountain) and even so is meant to be replaceable because this kind of thing happens all the time because of corruption and power struggles.

Sure, there's definitely heartwarming moments for people all over this cluster, and happy lives are sure to exist on core worlds, but it's an infinitesimal minority compared to events like the ones in this and other chronicles.
Even the people who may or may not be, as you say, be fighting for a better world need to step on at least hundreds of thousands of people to make even a slight ripple; every, say, Serpentis "Core Admiral" Megathron you pop on a given day of missioning has a few hundred people on it. Those people had wives, husbands, kids or mistresses just like the scientist in this story. You are honestly ****ing in someone's cereal every time you undock (greater good or not) and these recent chronicles are their stories.

TL;DR Life in EVE is very much a "Crapsack World", and it's fun to read about the kids you've orphaned once and awhile, because people like the ones being abused in this story you'd never hear about without Abraxas or the fiction teams at MERCURY.

That said, Abraxas, long time listener, first time caller, great job on these stories; people do have a point though, wouldn't hurt to have some heartwarming with my vinegar-flavored oatmeal once and awhile... Oh, and yeah, more "informative" chronicles like the ones at the bottom of the list, we like those too!

Tib

Azura Noctis
Amarr
SWARTA
Posted - 2010.11.10 18:11:00 - [39]
 

True happiness is actually rarer than most people think. The road is full of struggles, obstacles, and often you have to watch your back.It is even more difficult to describe, because what makes someone happy varies between each individual. Not to mention that the mind seems to be more attune to describe suffering. The negative aspects that affect us are easily spread and will destroy/consume you if you let them. Light is harder to cultivate, it requires effort and strength. Sometimes it's too hard for people to do on their own and if they have no support they're more easily susceptible. Point is a true story of happiness has to be felt. You can't really write something compelling by just observation. You have to experience it and really throw your heart into it. Anyway enough of the rant, I always enjoy your stories Abraxas. Keep up the good work guys ;)

Cpt Stratos
Posted - 2010.11.10 19:44:00 - [40]
 

I thought it was a good read. Work is slow today so it was nice to kick back and read this for a bit. Keep up the great work! I always look forward to these EVE Chronicles.

Also, yay for my first post lol. Smile

Emperor Cheney
Celebrity Sex Tape
Posted - 2010.11.11 00:26:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: Tiberius Dresari
Originally by: Rens Pricemaster
Edited by: Rens Pricemaster on 02/11/2010 01:07:40JUST SAYING IF YOU MAKE LIFE IN EVERY SINGLE CHRONICLE LIKE HELL, IT JUST SEEMS FORCED AND UNREALISTIC. Sure bad things happen, and I'm sure we like to read about it once in a while, but not every single chron. Give those fighting for a better world (empire missioners) some hope :D


I feel like the current ratio of depressing or morbid chronicles to the ones that you'd consider to have "happy" endings is pretty accurate for EVE, personally. There are just staggering amounts of people in this universe, and most of them have been stepped on and used like a lot of the people we read about in the chronicles.
This Kartanen guy is an overseer for this entire mining colony and is probably responsible for hundreds, maybe thousands of hard laborers on this particular desert planet (similar situations would exist on most likely every settled barren planet between the Forge and Fountain) and even so is meant to be replaceable because this kind of thing happens all the time because of corruption and power struggles.

Sure, there's definitely heartwarming moments for people all over this cluster, and happy lives are sure to exist on core worlds, but it's an infinitesimal minority compared to events like the ones in this and other chronicles.
Even the people who may or may not be, as you say, be fighting for a better world need to step on at least hundreds of thousands of people to make even a slight ripple; every, say, Serpentis "Core Admiral" Megathron you pop on a given day of missioning has a few hundred people on it. Those people had wives, husbands, kids or mistresses just like the scientist in this story. You are honestly ****ing in someone's cereal every time you undock (greater good or not) and these recent chronicles are their stories.

TL;DR Life in EVE is very much a "Crapsack World", and it's fun to read about the kids you've orphaned once and awhile, because people like the ones being abused in this story you'd never hear about without Abraxas or the fiction teams at MERCURY.

That said, Abraxas, long time listener, first time caller, great job on these stories; people do have a point though, wouldn't hurt to have some heartwarming with my vinegar-flavored oatmeal once and awhile... Oh, and yeah, more "informative" chronicles like the ones at the bottom of the list, we like those too!

Tib


And yet the in-game world seems incredibly creative and wealthy. There's space colonies, astroid colonies, space casinos, space brothels, thousands of privately run space stations the size of small moons - but we look in the chronicles, everyone is poor, everyone is being tortured, no one has any hope. Eve is supposed to be a ruthlessly capitalist system, but where's the ambition? And why are people throughout these chronicles going through hell for nothing? It seems going into space or a mining colony is damn near a death sentence, so why are all the characters poor workaday schlubs? They should either be rogues who can't cut it in on-world society (like seamen of old) or ambitious common folk willing to bet it all on getting a score and making it rich, like the United States prospectors in California and Alaska in the 19th century.

As it is, the world doesn't make sense, and the people in this world don't make sense. If I was in Eve, I would just get a nice comfy office job. How come no one in these chronicles does that then?

Typhado3
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.11.14 09:01:00 - [42]
 

Room 101

Loved the chronicle.
The fact they took it in turns in the same order helped me keep track of who was who (woulda been lost otherwise) though the gaurd did get one less turn.

Originally by: Rens Pricemaster
The thing is, from other chrons, backstory, we know not everyone is evil, and its not as prevalent as chrons would have you believe. I'm just saying STOP REPORTING ON THE DARK SIDE ALL THE TIME! We know there is some good in new eden, show it.


Really agree with this.

How bout a nice person (who doesn't have a job as an assassin, drug dealer, enforcer etc.) overcomes a hardship and lives a happy life. Instead of experiencing a hardship and forever living in the knowledge the world is crap, and their lifes are crap etc. which I've seen in far too many chronicles to name.

Eipok Kruden
Caldari
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
Posted - 2010.11.25 03:32:00 - [43]
 

Fantastic story! It was extremely morbid, though, even more so than those that graphically depict everything. I think its vagueness added to its overall atmosphere. I almost felt sick after reading this!

Originally by: Lost Greybeard
Originally by: Rens Pricemaster
The thing is, from other chrons, backstory, we know not everyone is evil, and its not as prevalent as chrons would have you believe. I'm just saying STOP REPORTING ON THE DARK SIDE ALL THE TIME! We know there is some good in new eden, show it.


What the hell are you talking about? In the preceding chronicle, one of the characters got ridiculously wealthy from trading and then retired to go on a long vacation to seek the meaning of life, and the other conquered her mercenary-related mental issues to become the demigod leader of a peaceful utopian cult living an ascetic life in an asteroid monastery.

And in the one before that, a magical man who talks to ships makes his living doing what he loves, and the narrator finds gainful employment due to his friendship with the elf.

How exactly are all of these too dark? Do you need cartoon animals to burst into song halfway through every scene or something?
I just had to quote Greybeard, because he's right. But he's also wrong. There were very few unhappy moments and no depressing ones in "Hona Is There".

You misinterpreted "Rust Creeps", though. It wasn't about "a magical man making his living doing what he loves". It was about a man who could hear the voices of everyone who had interacted with parts and, essentially, imbued a part of themselves into said parts ('part' three times in one sentence). He was trying to hear those voices, make them heard, as many of them as possible. He saw it as his duty to remember them, to remember who they were. I'm sure he enjoyed their stories immensely, got lost in them, in what once was, but I doubt he 'loved' it.

"Jita 4-4" was great, not depressing or unhappy or too dark and with just the right amount of information and insight. "Tattoo" was just an informative piece, nothing emotional about it. "Innocent Faces" was heavy, somewhat dark, but also enlightening, insightful, and even inspiring. "The Rite" was disturbing, funny, and entertaining all at once. Absurd and outlandish, but portrayed realistically.

So it's not all dark and depressing, but everything certainly has a gritty aspect to it. That said, I would definitely like some more uplifting tales of human perserverance and ingenuity and whatnot, but I understand if it doesn't happen any time soon, what with the Sansha invasion right on the horizon.

Also, for anyone who thinks that this is too 'unrealistic' or whatever, it's not. If I were the capsuleer in charge of this colony and that much data got stolen, I'd say three things:
1.) Find out who did it.
2.) Get it back.
3.) Make them pay.
Then Internal Security would get it done. I wouldn't care how it got done because it wouldn't be my problem. I'm a capsuler, a busy person, I have other things to do. There are more important things with which to occupy my time; I pay people to do these sorts of things for me.


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