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Posted - 2010.11.01 13:51:00 - [1]
 

In the middle of a desert colony something very valuable was discovered and stolen, and now someone isn't telling the truth.

"The Desert Fathers is a new EVE Chronicle written by CCP Abraxas.

Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
Posted - 2010.11.01 13:54:00 - [2]
 

\o/ More good reading!

/c

Gabrielle Stormbringer
Posted - 2010.11.01 14:16:00 - [3]
 

The end reminded me a little about the Gallentean torture methods chronicle :3 Lovely reading

Duchess Starbuckington
Posted - 2010.11.01 14:34:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Gabrielle Stormbringer
The end reminded me a little about the Gallentean torture methods chronicle :3 Lovely reading


I thought more of the Caldari one. A dial turns and bad things happen...

Jarbis
Posted - 2010.11.01 14:59:00 - [5]
 

Interesting to say the least \o/

Mashie Saldana
Minmatar
Veto Corp
Posted - 2010.11.01 15:14:00 - [6]
 

I want one of those devices, could be handy to have around. YARRRR!!

Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari
Guiding Hand Social Club
Posted - 2010.11.01 15:56:00 - [7]
 

Interesting... especially the mention of archaea.

Bacteria that can affect metal. I wonder if that's how the Jovians grow their ships.

Aranial
Gallente
Empyrean Warriors
The Obsidian Front
Posted - 2010.11.01 16:11:00 - [8]
 

The plot thickens.

great read too!Smile

kano donn
New Path
Posted - 2010.11.01 16:17:00 - [9]
 

most excellent

Q'ara Ziann
Minmatar
Coffee Lovers Brewing Club
ROMANIAN-LEGION
Posted - 2010.11.01 16:33:00 - [10]
 

Excellent reading!

Nikita Alterana
Kumiho's Smile
Posted - 2010.11.01 17:05:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Nikita Alterana on 01/11/2010 17:07:33
very excellent read, the plot thickens indeed.

also, "that hellish thing" is the Caldari methods of torture machine, C/D?

also, the suits were maybe Dominations?

also, the artwork for this great, its good to know that the sort of mining outposts I wrote as existing on Utopia III actually exist.

Myyona
Minmatar
Ataraxia Pharmacies
Posted - 2010.11.01 17:25:00 - [12]
 

While on one hand I appreciate these "dark" stories as they demonstrate the inhumanity seeping through New Eden that my character and her organization are working against they do tend to have rather predicable endings.Neutral

Elsebeth Rhiannon
Minmatar
Gradient
Electus Matari
Posted - 2010.11.01 17:42:00 - [13]
 

Nice read, thanks!

Sounded like Caldari corporate internal affairs procedure or something such to me, sure.

If VETO gets one of those machines, I want one too. For scientific research, of course. Not for use!


Bomberlocks
Minmatar
CTRL-Q
Posted - 2010.11.01 19:12:00 - [14]
 

Enjoyed that one for a change. Hope there will be a part two.

Insane Randomness
Posted - 2010.11.01 19:41:00 - [15]
 

Sansha invasions are driving everyone to the edge of madness...

Pax Thar
Minmatar
Heathen Army
Posted - 2010.11.01 19:43:00 - [16]
 

Wow. First time I've read one of these and I'm impressed.

Tagera
Posted - 2010.11.01 19:49:00 - [17]
 

Wow.....thats a pretty good chronicle. And a little messed up CCP Abraxas has a great imagination when it comes to writing even if it is a tad morbid.

Zakua Sabot
Posted - 2010.11.01 20:51:00 - [18]
 

Good read!!!

Enya Sparhawk
Posted - 2010.11.01 23:33:00 - [19]
 

Hmmm, I really hate to be the naysayer here...
I dunno, I didn't really like it...

I do really like these cronicles though so I hope I can offer some constructive criticism without sounding offensive/discouraging.

I did like the main idea of the story, interesting plot and I always like reading a story of catching someone in a lie. Unfortunately, I found the narrative was all over the place (the words lacked fluidity from one character to the next); I knew who the three characters were but it was hard to tell who was talking at any given point after they're initial introduction. Secondly, most people being tortured (or even threatened with torture) don't tend to yell out the step by step actions of the torturer (he/she already knows what they are doing)

The character Szekel remains too much of a mystery for me, the reader knows near nothing about him. Understandably, industrial espionnage will lend a certain mystique to it's main character, but a lack of knowledge of that character ultimately helped the lies fall apart that much easier (which I am assuming was the basis of the entire story).

Sure the interrogation methods were portrayed as tough, perhaps even a bit extreme (or so we were told). When you are dealing with people who not only survive in a barren environment in deep space, but who can actual endure and flourish, could they fold so easily under pressure? It lends itself to a lack of plausibility. Its not like they really have anything to lose (except for Jania Betodt perhaps).


When one resides in the middle of the desert, a promise can become either a mirage or an oasis...

Rens Pricemaster
Posted - 2010.11.02 00:42:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: Rens Pricemaster on 02/11/2010 01:07:40
so who did it and why?

This is why, no matter how good the pay is, don't ever move to the fringe. Human rights don't exist there.

ON A SIDE NOTE
Well while it is good chronicles such as these provide more backstory and a more immersive experience, I think the more recent chronicles have been a bit too dark and gritty, nothing wrong with that but it just seems too forced. There were older good chronicles that describe how things in new eden work, or just life in general. No need to paint a dystopian society with no human rights whatsoever in every. single. chronicle. Sure it may be the fringe, but it is still a colony world. You can't just go around beating everyone up unless you know they are guilty. It just feels too forced, and while an interesting read, it doesn't really show us any more of what is going on. Nothing we can relate to in game. It just feels like someone is trying too hard to sound hardcore, appealing to the sick bastards in here, and sure there are a lot of them. Not that that is bad.
TL;DR JUST SAYING IF YOU MAKE LIFE IN EVERY SINGLE CHRONICLE LIKE HELL, IT JUST SEEMS FORCED AND UNREALISTIC. Sure bad things happen, and I'm sure we like to read about it once in a while, but not every single chron. Give those fighting for a better world (empire missioners) some hope :D

Emperor Cheney
Celebrity Sex Tape
Posted - 2010.11.02 01:49:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Rens Pricemaster
Edited by: Rens Pricemaster on 02/11/2010 01:07:40
so who did it and why?

This is why, no matter how good the pay is, don't ever move to the fringe. Human rights don't exist there.

ON A SIDE NOTE
Well while it is good chronicles such as these provide more backstory and a more immersive experience, I think the more recent chronicles have been a bit too dark and gritty, nothing wrong with that but it just seems too forced. There were older good chronicles that describe how things in new eden work, or just life in general. No need to paint a dystopian society with no human rights whatsoever in every. single. chronicle. Sure it may be the fringe, but it is still a colony world. You can't just go around beating everyone up unless you know they are guilty. It just feels too forced, and while an interesting read, it doesn't really show us any more of what is going on. Nothing we can relate to in game. It just feels like someone is trying too hard to sound hardcore, appealing to the sick bastards in here, and sure there are a lot of them. Not that that is bad.
TL;DR JUST SAYING IF YOU MAKE LIFE IN EVERY SINGLE CHRONICLE LIKE HELL, IT JUST SEEMS FORCED AND UNREALISTIC. Sure bad things happen, and I'm sure we like to read about it once in a while, but not every single chron. Give those fighting for a better world (empire missioners) some hope :D


It doesn't make a lot of sense - there's really apparently no upside anywhere for any non-capsuleer. Trillions of people and they're all criminals/torturers/victims, always. Everything is dark, everything is terrible. The EVE world isn't particularly believable, even by sci-fi standards.

Rens Pricemaster
Posted - 2010.11.02 12:32:00 - [22]
 

The thing is, from other chrons, backstory, we know not everyone is evil, and its not as prevalent as chrons would have you believe. I'm just saying STOP REPORTING ON THE DARK SIDE ALL THE TIME! We know there is some good in new eden, show it.

mattig89ch1
Caldari
RipStar.
Posted - 2010.11.02 15:13:00 - [23]
 

I have to agree with the last few posts here. These chronicles are trying to paint a darker side of the eve universe. Something I can respect, to a point.

But to show only the dark side of this universe is to do a dis-service to the galaxy as a whole.

All I'm saying, you should try showing the lighter side of things as well.

Idranel Hacksong
JAFTO
Posted - 2010.11.02 15:37:00 - [24]
 

Edited by: Idranel Hacksong on 02/11/2010 15:41:06
What exactly is the thing everyone is so frightened of? An image capturing device, a weapon?

Shirley Serious
Amarr
The Khanid Sisters of Athra
Posted - 2010.11.02 16:08:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Idranel Hacksong

What exactly is the thing everyone is so frightened of? An image capturing device, a weapon?


They are afraid of This.

Evelgrivion
Gunpoint Diplomacy
Posted - 2010.11.02 18:10:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Idranel Hacksong
Edited by: Idranel Hacksong on 02/11/2010 15:41:06
What exactly is the thing everyone is so frightened of? An image capturing device, a weapon?


The subject matter in question looks to be a powerful technique for bio-fabrication of metal objects. Imagine the nanomechanical potential of a starship hull that has intricate, organic reinforcing tendrils running through it on par with the engineering of the Sleepers. The Sansha now have it.

Matt Armada
Gallente
Post Apocalyptic Convenience Store
Posted - 2010.11.02 18:48:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Rens Pricemaster
The thing is, from other chrons, backstory, we know not everyone is evil, and its not as prevalent as chrons would have you believe. I'm just saying STOP REPORTING ON THE DARK SIDE ALL THE TIME! We know there is some good in new eden, show it.


It's to late, they're already changing the name of the game. Welcome to EVE Hammer 40K, where in the grim darkness of the future, there is only War....War, and Goonswarm.




Being serious for a moment, I quite liked this chronicle. I agree we're heading a bit into grimdark territory a lot but considering the nature of the Sansha invasions and things going on now, its not exactly like thats an unexpected thing. The world is pretty dark right now.

That said, I expect the next Chronicle to be about some sort of bunny subsuitute, post haste ugh

Lost Greybeard
Gallente
Posted - 2010.11.02 22:35:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Rens Pricemaster
The thing is, from other chrons, backstory, we know not everyone is evil, and its not as prevalent as chrons would have you believe. I'm just saying STOP REPORTING ON THE DARK SIDE ALL THE TIME! We know there is some good in new eden, show it.


What the hell are you talking about? In the preceding chronicle, one of the characters got ridiculously wealthy from trading and then retired to go on a long vacation to seek the meaning of life, and the other conquered her mercenary-related mental issues to become the demigod leader of a peaceful utopian cult living an ascetic life in an asteroid monastery.

And in the one before that, a magical man who talks to ships makes his living doing what he loves, and the narrator finds gainful employment due to his friendship with the elf.

How exactly are all of these too dark? Do you need cartoon animals to burst into song halfway through every scene or something?

Rens Pricemaster
Posted - 2010.11.02 23:39:00 - [29]
 

Edited by: Rens Pricemaster on 02/11/2010 23:44:37
Well, it could be that whoever is writing articles can only write dark stuff. While that is ok, whenever I open a chronicle, I almost EXPECT something awful to happen. Don't get me wrong, it is still entertaining, and I enjoy bloody stuff sometimes too. However it just seems too forced now. And enough of these 'open endings'. Just create a proper closure so we don't have to speculate.

Who were these torturers?
Who stole the artifact and why?
What does that device do? Why resort to such measures when some of them are fully coorperating?
Most importantly - what happens in the end? Man I hate these tasteless 'open endings'. It loses it's appeal when half the chrons don't have a proper closure. I know what you are trying to do, and it's still a good read, just saying I can predict the plot of the majority of chrons now.

1-Someone working somewhere in some dystopian world
2-Someone or lots of people getting betrayed/captured/screwed over till life ain't worth living
3-More bad things happen
4-Cliffhanger - derp... it ends?

Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari
Guiding Hand Social Club
Posted - 2010.11.03 00:12:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Rens Pricemaster
The thing is, from other chrons, backstory, we know not everyone is evil, and its not as prevalent as chrons would have you believe. I'm just saying STOP REPORTING ON THE DARK SIDE ALL THE TIME! We know there is some good in new eden, show it.

You do realize we live in the "end times" of this universe, right? Things are going all to hell!


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