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cconeus
Posted - 2010.10.28 08:31:00 - [1]
 

I have some questions... and since my corp doesn't have 10 people, I gotta post in here!

I'm pretty new to this game, but I've been running corporation type things for almost a decade on other games on and off. I also am an HR professional in RL, so I thought this whole thing would be a cakewalk. well, come to find out, it's not!

I wanted to get a mentor, someone I could ask questions of as I go through the process of getting my new corp up off the ground. I understand there are certain skills to train, there are features in menu's that let you do stuff (to simplify) but that seems to be about 2% of the overall operations of a CEO in this game. I read some guides on how sovergnity works, about POS's, some basics, but none of this seems to cover what I need to know. I have questions about how the organizational structures are built, alliances, PvP, why people are concerned about how much people make on missions when they look to join a corp, what things people look for in a corp for each type, what makes a corp a certain specialty, and about a hundred other questions.

I understand most people who are CEO's or high ranking who would have the answers to these questions would probably not want to give away their secrets to a potential enemy (which I'm not, more looking for an ally here, but oh well) so I figured on here, or via email would be the most anonymous way for someone to help me out here! Please let me know if you can help me, and we will work somethin out if you wanna keep it a secret who you're with.

Cat o'Ninetails
Caldari
Rancer Defence League
Posted - 2010.10.28 08:53:00 - [2]
 

hi cat here

as ceo of the prestigeous rancer defence league i may be able to help Smile
what you need basically to be a succesful ceo is lots of money to pay your friends so they stay your friends they dont do it for free lol either that or charisma i guess vOv

good luck hope that helps

x

Louis deGuerre
Gallente
Malevolence.
Posted - 2010.10.28 09:03:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: cconeus
a potential enemy (which I'm not, more looking for an ally here, but oh well)


This is Everyone vs Everyone online Twisted Evil

Seriously, if you got a specific question evemail me.

Jovan Geldon
Gallente
Lead Farmers
Kill It With Fire
Posted - 2010.10.28 10:06:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Jovan Geldon on 28/10/2010 10:09:05
Originally by: cconeus
more looking for an ally here


Wardec incoming

Steve Celeste
Overdogs
Posted - 2010.10.28 10:13:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: cconeus
I gotta post in here!

One forum section higher meight.

Buck Marui
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2010.10.28 10:53:00 - [6]
 

So basically what you are looking for is experience.

Join a few corporations and find out how they do things, take the best from each corporation, unlike in most other games you cannot just jump into EVE and run a corporation as you would a "guild" or "clan"

Very few people will follow an inexperienced CEO in EVE because it tends to mean they lose shiney things a bit too much.

Most other corporations will deliberately target you if they find out you are inexperienced too, easy kills for them.

You could spend a few months setting up a corporation then have to watch it burn to a rival corporation, this is where a varied and vibrant employement history comes in, having connections to old friends and corpmates from more powerful corporations and alliances will not only help to deterr "the griefer corporations" you will attract, but will also help you keep your corporation succesful, by answering questions like those you asked here.

I understand this is probably not what you want to hear, and you are undoubtably going to push forward with your new corporation regardless, there was a time where I considered starting my own corporation but did not because of the reasons above.

Good luck regardless.

cconeus
Posted - 2010.10.28 11:13:00 - [7]
 

Well, its pretty much exactly what I expected to hear, but yes, I do plan on pushing forward anyways. I expect someone will snatch this up and crush the life out of me shortly, and I expect to fail pretty bad, as I have a whole whopping 2 weeks of in game experience. However, all that said, I think with the right support chain, good advice, and some smart plays I can push through that and get a corp on top. It's what I do best. Honestly, what a corp needs to be strong is strong players, and that is not just the CEO.

If I was throwing a house party, I could have a house, put on some music, dance a bit.. but its not a party without the right kind of people. Of course to get people to go to your party you need to offer something, and I have nothing. But again, people don't always come to your parties because you got a cool house. they come because you have music and people they like. It's the same principals that social networking sites work on.

All that aside though, please help me form this support chain! I'm a pretty friendly dude, I stick by my friends, and I plan on sticking around. I like to win games, and wining this game to me would be:
A titan
A corp with 500+ active
control of several systems
part of a larger alliance

so until those are met, I'll be here getting there :)

Buck Marui
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2010.10.28 11:26:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: cconeus
If I was throwing a house party, I could have a house, put on some music, dance a bit.. but its not a party without the right kind of people. Of course to get people to go to your party you need to offer something, and I have nothing. But again, people don't always come to your parties because you got a cool house. they come because you have music and people they like. It's the same principals that social networking sites work on.


Unfortunately this is EVE, and so at least 50 percent of people that come to your house party will be looking to steal everything you have and leave you naked in a ditch.

In this case you would only invite people you trust to your house party, and since you do not know anyone in EVE thats not likely to happen, you will be in a position where you have to give someone roles and responsibility but have no grounds to trust them, this will be a major obstacle for you to overcome.

If it is your intention to run a corporation solo then you have already failed considering your lofty goals, I can't say it is never going to happen but I put the likelihood of success at about 2 percent.

Spatial anomaly
Posted - 2010.10.28 11:29:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: cconeus
I have some questions... and since my corp doesn't have 10 people, I gotta post in here!

I'm pretty new to this game, but I've been running corporation type things for almost a decade on other games on and off. I also am an HR professional in RL, so I thought this whole thing would be a cakewalk. well, come to find out, it's not!

I wanted to get a mentor, someone I could ask questions of as I go through the process of getting my new corp up off the ground. I understand there are certain skills to train, there are features in menu's that let you do stuff (to simplify) but that seems to be about 2% of the overall operations of a CEO in this game. I read some guides on how sovergnity works, about POS's, some basics, but none of this seems to cover what I need to know. I have questions about how the organizational structures are built, alliances, PvP, why people are concerned about how much people make on missions when they look to join a corp, what things people look for in a corp for each type, what makes a corp a certain specialty, and about a hundred other questions.

I understand most people who are CEO's or high ranking who would have the answers to these questions would probably not want to give away their secrets to a potential enemy (which I'm not, more looking for an ally here, but oh well) so I figured on here, or via email would be the most anonymous way for someone to help me out here! Please let me know if you can help me, and we will work somethin out if you wanna keep it a secret who you're with.


Make it fun, not a job, we pay to play this we dont get paid to do a ceo's bidding.

Buck Marui
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2010.10.28 11:40:00 - [10]
 

The way I see it is that you have two options:

(Assuming you intend to go through with this corporation as stated previously)

1/ You can put up a recruitment thread explaining that you are new and that you are looking to start a corporation of close friends, perhaps on some kind of a democratic system, and just live with the fact that most of the applicants will be looking to rip you off, sorting through these people as they come and hoping you get lucky.

Or

2/ You can hide the fact that you are new to EVE, relying on guides available to the community and trial and error, simply hoping that your corpmates do not care/notice. This in my oppinion is a bad idea is it's never a good idea to start a corporation with a lie.

Simply put you are at a major disadvantage, attempting to do something even skilled players often fail to do, in my experience it will be a lot of effort to very little reward. And I would seriously recommend hanging on to your corporate dreams a while until you have at least a year and experience in a few of EVE's corporate fields (Mining, Production and PVP for example)

If you start a corporation now and it tanks, you will most likely never create a corporation again, haunted by the memories of this endeavour. However if you wait and you become better prepared to handle many of the unforeseen situations that are going to arrise, you may create a corporation in a year or so that will live forever in the annuls of EVE Online.

Lady Spank
Amarr
In Praise Of Shadows
Posted - 2010.10.28 13:58:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Lady Spank on 28/10/2010 14:08:43
Welcome to eve!

I wrote a fairly big reply here but got a powercut so its gone Embarassed

I'll throw some basics down again.

Primers:
Official Eve wiki - guide to running a corporation
Massively guide to running a successful corp
outdated but still informative rundown of management options
Massively again, 2008 but still helpful
another link with useful tips towards the end

To begin, know what activities you like doing in eve and recruit similarly minded players. As you have just started, it's probably easiest to hire some other newcomers who can learn with you. Try and keep it somewhat low key as griefers just love wardeccing corps full of noobs, especially mining Wink

EDIT: removed twaddle to say...

1. Choose something enjoyable & profitable, try to have a focus.
2. Get good at it.
3. Become a desirable asset to an alliance.

Thats why I just fart around solo these days Embarassed

MailOrder RussianBride
Posted - 2010.10.28 14:52:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Lady Spank
Thats why I just fart around solo these days Embarassed

Here to confirm that Lady Spank's flatulance is the reason she cannot keep raom mates.

Lady Spank
Amarr
In Praise Of Shadows
Posted - 2010.10.28 15:29:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: MailOrder RussianBride
Originally by: Lady Spank
Thats why I just fart around solo these days Embarassed

Here to confirm that Lady Spank's flatulance is the reason she cannot keep raom mates.


It's your fault for making all that Shchi. Thats why I returned you btw Razz

Kuar Z'thain
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.10.28 15:31:00 - [14]
 

I hope you posted this with an alt.

Zombatar
Posted - 2010.10.28 20:57:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Kuar Z'thain
I hope you posted this with an alt.


Oh man, you're one evil guy.

@OP

If you have 2 weeks experience in EvE and you want to run a corp and be successful (aka as u said have titan, sovereignty etc.) you will fail miserably.

Get you ass into some corps and learn to play EvE before you want to be a CEO, right now you know almost nothing about the game and you want to guide other people?

And yes some people in EvE are so mean and selfish that will now declare war on your corp because of this thread to make your life miserable. Like the above quoted post, you did not post with your main char aka the CEO right? YARRRR!!

However, do not stop, get your corp up, but you will have a very hard time since you are new, very hard time, its hard enough to be a new pilot to this game not to mention run corps in your first two weeks. Hell you need ISK too, you need a few billions for a decent corp.

Lady Spank
Amarr
In Praise Of Shadows
Posted - 2010.10.29 11:33:00 - [16]
 

Wardecs on smaller corporations are a waste of time unless you are in a scrub corp yourself. So many high sec grief kiddies think they are doing something amazing by camping people into station.

OP if you get a war dec on account of this thread let me know and I will tell you how to completely circumvent their efforts.

Jovan Geldon
Gallente
Lead Farmers
Kill It With Fire
Posted - 2010.10.29 12:13:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Lady Spank
OP if you get a war dec on account of this thread let me know and I will tell you how to completely circumvent their efforts.


inb4 this

Verx Interis
Amarr
SkyNet.
Posted - 2010.10.29 12:17:00 - [18]
 

Build a team. Find a group of people who work well together and will stay in the corp. Spend some time making money and gathering things as a team, and go from there.

gfldex
Posted - 2010.10.29 14:10:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: cconeus
Honestly, what a corp needs to be strong is strong players, and that is not just the CEO.


And how do you plan to snatch those players of another CEO? (hit: this question requires deep thinking)

Sebastiann Kane
Posted - 2010.10.29 16:39:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: cconeus
Well, its pretty much exactly what I expected to hear, but yes, I do plan on pushing forward anyways. I expect someone will snatch this up and crush the life out of me shortly, and I expect to fail pretty bad, as I have a whole whopping 2 weeks of in game experience. However, all that said, I think with the right support chain, good advice, and some smart plays I can push through that and get a corp on top. It's what I do best. Honestly, what a corp needs to be strong is strong players, and that is not just the CEO.

If I was throwing a house party, I could have a house, put on some music, dance a bit.. but its not a party without the right kind of people. Of course to get people to go to your party you need to offer something, and I have nothing. But again, people don't always come to your parties because you got a cool house. they come because you have music and people they like. It's the same principals that social networking sites work on.

All that aside though, please help me form this support chain! I'm a pretty friendly dude, I stick by my friends, and I plan on sticking around. I like to win games, and wining this game to me would be:
A titan
A corp with 500+ active
control of several systems
part of a larger alliance

so until those are met, I'll be here getting there :)



How many times have i heard this. I was a CEO at six weeks and i played constantly trying to built and make my corp work.

End result was

1. i nearly quit
2. i hated my corp mates
3. you have no idea what you are letting yourself in for
4. Give up work
5. give your girlfriend to someone else
6. move in with your parents

7-8-9-10. Best if you just fired those missiles at yourself it will be far less painful.

11. just to get to the stage of building a titan is more work than you can ever imagine.


Just play the game otherwise you will end up yet another sad statistic in Eves list of bitter ex players who ended up hating everyone and everything about the game

(Copy this to a word and when you realise its truth email me back and you will have someone to moan with)


 

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