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Rex Garvin
Posted - 2010.10.24 14:16:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Rex Garvin on 25/10/2010 12:43:14
I have been unable to find on the forums a logical explanation how/why a $750 cpu and a $500 graphics card can loose over 100% of thier perfomance after the PI expansion and patches. Yes Ive checked my computer for problems. I am running three windows but did not have any problems until now. I normally dont get lag unless CCP is mass testing for lag(ironic). I had to start running EVE in the lowest graphic settings because I was getting graphic crashes. This brought performance back up a little and stopped the graphic crashes. Dont you love brown ice asteroids. I am now seriously thinking about overclocking my CPU and graphics card. Luckily I have a SLI motherboard and I can add another $500 graphics card by the time Incursion goes live.

If my computer is running at 25 percent of its max and it jumps to 50 percent of its max this is a 100 percent decrease in performance.

Mashie Saldana
Minmatar
Veto Corp
Posted - 2010.10.24 14:20:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Mashie Saldana on 24/10/2010 14:23:56
If you lost 100% of the performance the computer has probably locked up or crashed. Wink

Edit - Oh and I use a $200 CPU with a few years old $500 GPU and can run three windowed clients at 1920x1080 without problems, so check your graphics settings and update the drivers.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2010.10.24 14:22:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Tippia on 24/10/2010 14:30:13
Originally by: Rex Garvin
I have been unable to find on the forums a logical explanation how/why a $750 cpu and a $500 graphics card can loose over 100% of thier perfomance after the PI expansion and patches.
Quite simple: they can't.

Partly because I have no idea how on earth you "loose" performance, and partly because, at most, they can lose 100%, and that happens when you turn the computer off.


Or, well… I suppose that, in some oblique way, if you lost previously completed computations — causing data to never have existed and unravelling the images generated, not just from memory, but removing them history itself — thus "unmaking" the work, that could be considered some kind of negative performance…

…but I'm sure a number of the greatest physics research institutions on the planet would be willing to pay a whole heap of cash to get their hands on that kind of tech, so you'll come out ok in the end.

Grog Barrel
Posted - 2010.10.24 14:41:00 - [4]
 

he means 50% me thinks.

Max Cetera
Capital Researchs Inc.
Posted - 2010.10.24 14:58:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Max Cetera on 24/10/2010 15:00:58
Confirming that OP has a "failure to communicate".

Proposed solution : press the "Enter" key every now and then.

Edit : also confirming that almost no one cares how much you paid for your computer, but that they might care more about the name of the stuff.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2010.10.24 14:59:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Grog Barrel
he means 50% me thinks.
Possibly, but I think if quite aptly demonstrates the title of the thread… Wink

Br41n
Amarr
Ministry of War
Posted - 2010.10.24 15:00:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Max Cetera
Edited by: Max Cetera on 24/10/2010 15:00:34
Confirming that OP has a "failure to communicate".

Proposed olution : press the "Enter" key every now and then.

Edit : also confirming that almost no one cares how much you paid for your computer, but that they might care more about the name of the stuff.


better solution, turn off the computer and never ever touch it again. This way he is not required to communicate

Spurty
Caldari
V0LTA
VOLTA Corp
Posted - 2010.10.24 15:00:00 - [8]
 

Perhaps they compiled without an optimization

Lady Spank
Amarr
In Praise Of Shadows
Posted - 2010.10.24 19:17:00 - [9]
 

JUST THROW MORE DOLLARS AND POWER AT IT!!!!!!!!!!

(I know you are trolling but this one is actually quite funny)

Lt Angus
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2010.10.24 19:22:00 - [10]
 

Should have paid in yen for 81x more performance

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2010.10.24 19:41:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Lt Angus
Should have paid in yen for 81x more performance
…or ISK — 181× more! Shocked

Barkaial Starfinder
Minmatar
The Kairos Syndicate
Transmission Lost
Posted - 2010.10.24 20:18:00 - [12]
 

User failure.

Drykor
Minmatar
Aperture Harmonics
K162
Posted - 2010.10.24 20:24:00 - [13]
 

Sounds like a typical case of PEBKAC

Antihrist Pripravnik
Scorpion Road Industry
Posted - 2010.10.24 21:15:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Rex Garvin
I have been unable to find on the forums a logical explanation how/why a $750 cpu and a $500 graphics card can loose over 100% of thier perfomance after the PI expansion and patches. Yes Ive checked my computer for problems. I am running three windows but did not have any problems until now. I normally dont get lag unless CCP is mass testing for lag(ironic). I had to start running EVE in the lowest graphic settings because I was getting graphic crashes. This brought performance back up a little and stopped the graphic crashes. Dont you love brown ice asteroids. I am now seriously thinking about overclocking my CPU and graphics card. Luckily I have a SLI motherboard and I can add another $500 graphics card by the time Incursion goes live.


I'm getting reports from some friends of mine in game that they have similar problems. Since I'm "the tech" guy (programmer btw.) they usually ask me for advice.

The only thing I can say is that it doesn't matter how much money you spend on hardware when software is the problem. Your hardware is not making troubles (most likely) because I play EVE normally on old Intel 820D with 7300GT graphics (around $100 total). It's not the first time graphics drivers aren't compatible (or working properly for that matter) with some game. The best shot you have is to write a petition, follow the instructions and hope for the best. If it's not solved after you do everything tech support say, then you'll just have to wait for a new GPU driver update.

Mr Kidd
Posted - 2010.10.25 00:52:00 - [15]
 

I got my mind right, boss!

Lacking any other information necessary to understand the crux of the problem I will still attempt to help you.

You're losing 100% performance after the PI expansion....lets see....is it unusually dark in your house, even during the day and especially at night? Perhaps you failed to pay for your utilities? If not, maybe you should turn your computer on?

Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
Posted - 2010.10.25 01:50:00 - [16]
 

Video card has rabbit in its blood, i rekon.

De'Veldrin
Minmatar
Norse'Storm Battle Group
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2010.10.25 02:41:00 - [17]
 

ITT: someone who doesn't know how to handle percentages correctly.

Dirk Swan
Posted - 2010.10.25 12:49:00 - [18]
 

For you idiots.
If my computer is running at 25 percent of its max and it jumps to 50 percent of its max this is a 100 percent decrease in performance.

Aessoroz
Nohbdy.
Posted - 2010.10.25 13:00:00 - [19]
 

You are using Nvidia which sells overpriced graphics cards, problem right there

CCP Spitfire


C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2010.10.25 13:02:00 - [20]
 

Moved from 'EVE General Discussion'.


Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
Posted - 2010.10.25 13:03:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Aessoroz
You are using Nvidia which sells overpriced graphics cards, problem right there
mite b troll

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2010.10.25 13:03:00 - [22]
 

Edited by: Tippia on 25/10/2010 13:05:41
Originally by: Dirk Swan
For you idiots.
If my computer is running at 25 percent of its max and it jumps to 50 percent of its max this is a 100 percent decrease in performance.
No. That's a 50% decrease in performance or, more accurately, a 100% increase in workload to perform the same task (which is probably what you're experiencing — the performance is exactly the same, but more of it is needed).

A 100% decrease in performance means that, regardless of what it was before, your performance is now zero: nothing gets done, ever.

Dirk Swan
Posted - 2010.10.25 13:04:00 - [23]
 

Edited by: Dirk Swan on 25/10/2010 13:05:28
Originally by: Aessoroz
You are using Nvidia which sells overpriced graphics cards, problem right there


Yes they are expensive but I dont think its the card. Some of EVE settings have changed and tweaking them is giving me more performance.


 

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