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Alekseyev Karrde
Gallente
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2010.10.16 20:47:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Alekseyev Karrde on 16/10/2010 20:53:21
Starting now, NMG. will do a full reset except for the following groups:

Ones we own
Advocated Destruction
SI Radio
Warped Aggression
and Imperial Order (gg guys) who we will reset soon but not right now.

tl;dr NMG. Is leaving Providence, but as a nice **** you to the neighbors who've sold us down the river for a weaker alliance they could more easily control, CVA will be replacing us in our pocket. The sov transfer should be concluded shortly. Our neighbors wanted to play Big Boy 0.0 so bad; have fun ^^

After holding my tongue so long, god damn this is going to feel nice to write. I make this post both for that reason and so no one misconstrues our motives or stance in any way.

About a month ago when Pandemic Legion hit the scene, certain alliances broke the traditions of the previous three major sov warfare incidents and decided not to join in the defense of the region. Some of them even helped PL both overtly and covertly. This was a calculated political act to isolate their Provi political rival DK. When -A- came under attack directly and was essentially removed as a player, open civil war in Providence was assured. \\

Long story short, DK lost. But not before nearly both sides had daily chats and weekly meetings of useless pontification, constant reorganization, obvious political grandstanding, and what I can only describe as ineffectual and petty childishness. Daisho/SODA/DACO began their rather ham fisted and obvious attempts to isolate anyone who stood with -A- or with DK. The smaller Catch alliances caught the brunt of it initially.

Imperial Order held its ground against Kadeshi while we were away. They showed a lot of heart. And in fact, so did BDEAL for a time though they distanced themselves from everything rather quickly. When NMG. came home, I'm proud to say we stomped Kadeshi and its allies for almost 3 days non stop. To the point our competitor Mercenary Coalition got involved, for reasons which I can only speculate on (contract, taking out the competition, favors called in by M Corp) and all of which are very flattering ;)

CVA's entry into the conflict shooting everyone meant our EU TZ was outnumbered, and lack of Provi ally support left our USTZ unable to make strong progress. And then we got the information that after all the talk and transparent political maneuvering, some of our neighbors had set Kadeshi and friends blue. They were perfectly willing to standby and watch, much like they had with DK against PL. Of course CVA's involvement made that a little difficult, but it became clear from intel that we were getting cut out and even if CVA was defeated, we'd get officially backstabbed when it was over.

Heh well sorry to break their train of thought, but that's not how this story is going to end. NMG. has come out very well financially during the course of our stay in Providence and unlike the actual 0.0 alliances who live there, ours was always first and foremost a financial interest in living in 0.0 We've come out way ahead and after having to deal with the near constant whining and repeated false starts of post-AAA Provi, I dont think any of us will really miss the neighborhood. While I would have loved to have sold the stations, but failing that I will use our last act as residents of the region to do what my corp loves to do for a living: make people's lives hell.

CVA is an enemy who at least has earned a measure of respect. If someone is to take our space, I'd rather it be them. And so I am giving Aralis a nice head start in what I truly hope is a campaign which sees the old Providence restored.

Noir. now accepting new contract offers, contact Alekseyev Karrde to secure our services :)

KurmoL
Caldari
B4D W0LF
Systematic-Chaos
Posted - 2010.10.16 21:13:00 - [2]
 

most thread subjects here immediately default to the 'content' of alliances, and the luxuries of vomit smacking ingame, how often do you believe they magically become the start to care about this 'contribution' ? id say its less than 5%.

Shigsy
Caldari
NibbleTek
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.10.16 21:43:00 - [3]
 

Why would anyone trust you for a merc contract after you posted this? srs question

Alekseyev Karrde
Gallente
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2010.10.16 21:46:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Shigsy
Why would anyone trust you for a merc contract after you posted this? srs question


Why wouldnt they? We broke no agreements. Just getting ahead of the knife at our back

Sick Boy
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2010.10.16 21:52:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Alekseyev Karrde
Originally by: Shigsy
Why would anyone trust you for a merc contract after you posted this? srs question


Why wouldnt they? We broke no agreements. Just getting ahead of the knife at our back


How this alliance is still around is a miracle. They ripped my Corp off on a merc deal and have no manpower to get a job done.

Hori To
Minmatar
Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2010.10.16 22:00:00 - [6]
 

although a bit surprising,
classy move noir. :)

Best of luck to you in the future.

orphenshadow
Gallente
Easy Co.
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2010.10.16 22:06:00 - [7]
 

So.. Noir failed to notify any of the provi alliances about timers. They sent a mail to a dead channel, then complained when no one came to defend. We asked them to set timers in us tz, they set them for EU tz.

Long story short, everyone in provi busted ass trying to defend noir. There was never an intention not to defend them or sell them up the river. They started talking **** to the few allies they had because no one wanted to send a 50 man fleet into a 150 man blob to defend an alliance who has yet to contribute anything in the area.

I even offered to hire noir to defend their own space multiple times. Unfortunatly, they declined.

Nightshade Mary
Caldari
Sarz'na Khumatari
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2010.10.16 22:09:00 - [8]
 

I like your style Alekseyev.

/salute

Dusk Nemesis
Minmatar
Angels on Drugs
Posted - 2010.10.16 22:11:00 - [9]
 

Walk over to CVA? Ouch!

Lykouleon
Gallente
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.10.16 22:12:00 - [10]
 

Me love you long time Alek <3 Wink

SpotlessBlade
Gallente
Trust Doesn't Rust
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2010.10.16 22:21:00 - [11]
 

Alek and NMG have always been classy in my books, and I agree with this move 1000% (even if it's not mine to agree with). This IS a fine F*** You to the backstabbers and traitors who infest provi. lets see how they do with CVA back on the block. Well maybe Atlas, AAA, and UK will come to help fi..... oh right. I personally would much prefer to see CVA back in provi then the bottom dwellers that infest it now.On my part, I apologize for DK's inability to help you predicament. TBQH we were in no position to defend our own space, let alone anyone else's. Manpower and morale were battered to nothingness by events there. With that all said, Nicely Played Noir.

Agallis Zinthros
Amarr
Brosefs
Posted - 2010.10.16 22:24:00 - [12]
 

AMARR VICTOR!

Master Zeuth
Gallente
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.10.16 22:24:00 - [13]
 

AMARR VICTOR!

IamBeastx
Amarr
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.10.16 22:24:00 - [14]
 

AMARR VICTOR!

Markus Malovent
Minmatar
SniggWaffe
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2010.10.16 22:24:00 - [15]
 

AMARR VICTOR!

Illadelph Justice
Minmatar
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.10.16 22:24:00 - [16]
 

AMARR VICTOR!

Rath Kelbore
Caldari
Kings of Kill
EVE Animal Control
Posted - 2010.10.16 22:24:00 - [17]
 

AMARR VICTOR!

Vajrabhairava
Caldari
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
Posted - 2010.10.16 22:25:00 - [18]
 

Bamar Victor!

Aleks, maybe this has to do with your sterling record of turning out for Provi fleets?
Your not being around for fights, but renting out space to 3rd parties of carebears instead?

I dunno, just guessing.

Avonosac
Amarr
SniggWaffe
FREE KARTTOON NOW
Posted - 2010.10.16 22:25:00 - [19]
 

AMARR VICTOR!

Lunariia
Caldari
SniggWaffe
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2010.10.16 22:26:00 - [20]
 

AMARR VICTOR!

iwannabeahippy
Caldari
SniggWaffe
Posted - 2010.10.16 22:26:00 - [21]
 

AMARR VICTOR!

Alekseyev Karrde
Gallente
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2010.10.16 22:29:00 - [22]
 

Edited by: Alekseyev Karrde on 16/10/2010 22:30:33
Originally by: Sick Boy
Originally by: Alekseyev Karrde
Originally by: Shigsy
Why would anyone trust you for a merc contract after you posted this? srs question


Why wouldnt they? We broke no agreements. Just getting ahead of the knife at our back


How this alliance is still around is a miracle. They ripped my Corp off on a merc deal and have no manpower to get a job done.


Would that be this job where we performed beyond your ability to pay, you tried to scam us, and then we publically humilated you into a partial payment? I thought so ;p

edit: url

Crusher Deac
Caldari
Southern Cross Incorporated
Flying Dangerous
Posted - 2010.10.16 22:33:00 - [23]
 

Bye Bye

Louis deGuerre
Gallente
Malevolence.
Posted - 2010.10.16 22:34:00 - [24]
 

KARRDE VICTOR ?

*grabs popcorn*

orphenshadow
Gallente
Easy Co.
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2010.10.16 22:36:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: SpotlessBlade
Alek and NMG have always been classy in my books, and I agree with this move 1000% (even if it's not mine to agree with). This IS a fine F*** You to the backstabbers and traitors who infest provi. lets see how they do with CVA back on the block. Well maybe Atlas, AAA, and UK will come to help fi..... oh right. I personally would much prefer to see CVA back in provi then the bottom dwellers that infest it now.On my part, I apologize for DK's inability to help you predicament. TBQH we were in no position to defend our own space, let alone anyone else's. Manpower and morale were battered to nothingness by events there. With that all said, Nicely Played Noir.


UMAD?,

The fact of the matter is, Much like noir, provi defended DK until DK made it known they had no intention of staying and planned on selling the stations to the highest bidder. At which point a unified provi was much better option.

As far as noir is concerned. They made no effort to defend their own space, They created a weak front in provi, and when we tried shuffling powers around in the area to strenghthin the region, they acted as if it was a slight against them and they had some devine right to the space because they are noir. The fact of the matter is, No one in provi set kedeshi blue, in fact they are very orange, as are all of the people attacking noir's pocket.

This was the creation of noir, and noir alone. So to try to pin others in provi as the blame for your innability to defend your space is a bit neive. What it boils down to is that if you had actually talked to ANYONE in provi about your situation. You would have had the fleet to defend it.

Alekseyev Karrde
Gallente
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2010.10.16 22:46:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: orphenshadow
Originally by: SpotlessBlade
Alek and NMG have always been classy in my books, and I agree with this move 1000% (even if it's not mine to agree with). This IS a fine F*** You to the backstabbers and traitors who infest provi. lets see how they do with CVA back on the block. Well maybe Atlas, AAA, and UK will come to help fi..... oh right. I personally would much prefer to see CVA back in provi then the bottom dwellers that infest it now.On my part, I apologize for DK's inability to help you predicament. TBQH we were in no position to defend our own space, let alone anyone else's. Manpower and morale were battered to nothingness by events there. With that all said, Nicely Played Noir.


UMAD?,

The fact of the matter is, Much like noir, provi defended DK until DK made it known they had no intention of staying and planned on selling the stations to the highest bidder. At which point a unified provi was much better option.

As far as noir is concerned. They made no effort to defend their own space, They created a weak front in provi, and when we tried shuffling powers around in the area to strenghthin the region, they acted as if it was a slight against them and they had some devine right to the space because they are noir. The fact of the matter is, No one in provi set kedeshi blue, in fact they are very orange, as are all of the people attacking noir's pocket.

This was the creation of noir, and noir alone. So to try to pin others in provi as the blame for your innability to defend your space is a bit neive. What it boils down to is that if you had actually talked to ANYONE in provi about your situation. You would have had the fleet to defend it.


BDEAL never lifted a finger for DK. I was at the meeting where Stilletto and Nat were all like "Rah rah we'll help fight PL" and then LITERALLY the next day when convo'd for standings and what they could bring for fleets they backed out.

As for us mails were sent. Repeatedly. And yes Kadeshi is blue to several in Provi, I have it confirmed. I cant tell if you're willfully ignorant, trolling, or so drunk on Daisho Kool-Aid you dont know what's what. Since there was a new mailing list and command channel every week it seemed, I'd be quite surprised if no one picked up on what was being said and mailed in one of them.

But it's really not my problem anymore. This is the Provi you guys (really almost everyone except LEGIO and IO, and IO was being muscled out too) have made for yourselves with double talk, fence sitting, and an inability or unwillingness to work through problems and stick up for one another. It's an interesting place but not a very fun one, and contracts are much better than sov war.

Jebidus Skari
Amarr
Comply Or Die
Drunk 'n' Disorderly
Posted - 2010.10.16 22:48:00 - [27]
 

Get back to what you where good at mate..Mercing...Good Luck and Good Guys

Percivs
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2010.10.16 22:50:00 - [28]
 

Edited by: Percivs on 16/10/2010 23:01:49
not that any post in CAOD doesn't quickly get turned in to something vomitous, but I hope to get on to the first page...

as a member of a corp in the renter alliance hosted by NOIR, I have to say that NOIR is a class act (Edit: let me clarify that I mean this as far as being a renter and as far as the fleets that they organized that I participated in). They're not a nullsec power house, but despite the fact that they told everyone before they moved out there that they were a merc corp first and foremost, they still tried to rally with other Providence residents when PL first invaded.

I won't claim more than I know, but the blue fleets that formed to defend Imperial Order's sovereignty never really extended beyond defending 2v-. In my opinion, the fact that they disbanded as soon as 2v- was defended (ignoring the hold that the Kadeshi had gained in c1-) could only contribute to the instability in NOIR space. Sure Imperial Order would stick around, but the fleet would effectively dissolve. The rest of the blues had something better to do than finish defending the pocket and the sovereignty grab that Kadeshi had made.

I was there when NOIR returned to the pocket from contract, and I was part of the fleets that defended the pocket (doing my small and insignificant part).

Despite what IISL would have you believe, there was a civil war in effect long before DK announced their plans to cede Providence. SODA/Daisho/DACO being the leaders of that contingent. Former blues who he didn't name who came to defend Imperial Order space (2v-) one week were shooting DK fleets the next.

Sure some can (and will) claim that NOIR should have been more present in the pocket, but they cannot solely lay the blame for the regions problems at the feet of NOIR. Doing so is nothing but CAOD political manuevaring at it's finest.


PS, I speak for myself, not my alliance or corporation.

UberDeathDealer
Caldari
Steel Fleet
Important Internet Spaceship League
Posted - 2010.10.16 22:56:00 - [29]
 

woot more drama in provi.... hopefully will lead to some good pew

mustangsally31
Amarr
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2010.10.16 22:58:00 - [30]
 

TLDR NOIR failscade, when is the next podcast out fellas?? .


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