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Monistat Seven
Caldari
Posted - 2010.10.16 15:28:00 - [1]
 

This report just in...

The new PI interface as recently installed on SISI is SO much better. Congrats CCP, and thank you for not just patching the old PI, but coming up with a whole new innovation for the interface.

Individual extractors are a thing of the past. yay
Upgrading the Command Center, so much better.

Alexeph Stoekai
Stoekai Corp
Posted - 2010.10.16 15:42:00 - [2]
 

Originally by: Monistat Seven
This report just in...
Not really.

Valeronx
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Fallen Angels Alliance
Posted - 2010.10.22 04:05:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Monistat Seven
This report just in...

The new PI interface as recently installed on SISI is SO much better. Congrats CCP, and thank you for not just patching the old PI, but coming up with a whole new innovation for the interface.

Individual extractors are a thing of the past. yay
Upgrading the Command Center, so much better.


Very nice !

Princess Nimotehp
Red Eye Brigade
Posted - 2010.10.22 07:09:00 - [4]
 

Very Happy Well that is the best god damn thing i heard...eh..read all day Very Happy

and i still even have 3 fingers left... WOOHOO Very Happy

Boltorano
Fourth Circle
Total Comfort
Posted - 2010.10.22 08:29:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Alexeph Stoekai
Originally by: Monistat Seven
This report just in...
Not really.


Empty quoting.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2010.10.22 08:38:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Princess Nimotehp
Very Happy Well that is the best god damn thing i heard...eh..read all day Very Happy

and i still even have 3 fingers left... WOOHOO Very Happy
…on the other hand, when I last tested (admittedly before the mass-test build), production was down by a factor of ~40. Razz


(Yes, they've said that these are just temporary numbers, but that would make the bad news report less bad and where would the fun be in that?)

Steve Celeste
Overdogs
Posted - 2010.10.22 08:56:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Tippia
production was down by a factor of ~40. Razz

Wow, time to run to Jita and stockpile pos fuel!

KhaniKirai
Posted - 2010.10.22 10:46:00 - [8]
 

So marketprices will go down FAST?

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2010.10.22 10:55:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: KhaniKirai
So marketprices will go down FAST?
<tea leaves>
Assuming CCP don't change the output to any greater extent, market prices will slowly climb as patch day approaches in anticipation of and speculation on what will happen afterwards, and will then continue to climb for a week or two as everyone learns the new rules and gets the hang of a the proper balance between long-run cycles and early termination to get the most out of the yield curve. And then it'll be back to less than normal since the UI means that more people can start doing it without ripping their own head off in pure clickfest frustration.
</tea leaves>

TheCrazyT
Posted - 2010.10.22 11:01:00 - [10]
 

I'm the only one that see no difference in PI on the test server? ugh

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2010.10.22 11:05:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: TheCrazyT
I'm the only one that see no difference in PI on the test server? ugh
Depends when you're looking and what differences you're not seeing.

I think SiSi is still running on the mass-test code from yesterday, which is different from the Incursion branch where most of the PI stuff happens.

…but that's really more tea leaves, since I haven't bothered to look. Razz

Real Poison
Minmatar
Stormlord Battleforce
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2010.10.22 11:31:00 - [12]
 

and to follow the tradition to whine about everything...

the prices for PI good will plummet because everyone and his dog's alt will start doing PI if it actually gets easy to maintain.

Laughing


Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2010.10.22 11:40:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Real Poison
and to follow the tradition to whine about everything...

the prices for PI good will plummet because everyone and his dog's alt will start doing PI if it actually gets easy to maintain.

Laughing
I know! It's horrid! We in S&L might actually have to work to pay for our tower and offices, rather than just relying on this one guy and his five AFK-managed PI planets. Nasty evil CCP! Razz

JitaPriceChecker2
Posted - 2010.10.22 12:44:00 - [14]
 

So ... large towers for 90 mil ???

Esu Nahalas
Yote Patrol
Posted - 2010.10.22 13:11:00 - [15]
 

And I just nuked my own Command Centers (just 3 of them) earlier this week!
/emorage

CCP bring back old PI! Rollback!
/rage quit

xavier69
Gallente
Stark Enterprises LLC
Posted - 2010.10.22 14:07:00 - [16]
 

Great

When that’s live i might start doing my 120 invention and 120 T2 manufacturing jobs per day again

However i just couldn’t see paying the price of robotics when I need 1200 a day and there is no amount of PI I can do maintain that cycle

Pre PI i was paying 9.6 Million per day on robotics Post PI 40.8 Million

Not unreasonable but that’s FING robbery =)

I wouldn’t have minded a jump from 8k to 16k on robotics but 35k

No sir close all 4 of pos and waiting till ccp cleans this mess up

Hopefully this means more will do PI and the prices will fall with in reason

Captain Megadeath
Posted - 2010.10.22 14:21:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Captain Megadeath on 22/10/2010 14:23:08
Originally by: xavier69


Pre PI i was paying 9.6 Million per day on robotics Post PI 40.8 Million

Not unreasonable but that’s FING robbery =)




NO.

Before PI you were buying Robotics etc from NPCs not humans, they were just there, bamb, no process whatsoever.

Now YOU have to pay for the TIME that another HUMAN is spending to supply YOU with a resource. So you have 3 choices, either waste your own time and create what you need yourself, pay for someone elses time spent on making the resource or don't do either and shut up shop.

The handy thing about EvEs marketplace is that if you do shut up shop, someone else without dillusions of grandure will open another one....... Laughing

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2010.10.22 14:23:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: xavier69
However i just couldn’t see paying the price of robotics when I need 1200 a day and there is no amount of PI I can do maintain that cycle
Pah! It's only 17 production lines… Get cracking ya lazy bum! Wink

CCP Spitfire


C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2010.10.22 14:37:00 - [19]
 

Moved from 'EVE General Discussion'.


Cresalle
Posted - 2010.10.23 05:20:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: Cresalle on 23/10/2010 05:27:44
Originally by: xavier69
...I need 1200 a day and there is no amount of PI I can do maintain that cycle


A single process run (correctly configured) can produce 3 units per hour (72u/d). That's a little over 1/16 of what you need. A single colony could probably support 2 sets of the process (maybe 3, I'd have to actually look). You can control what, 6 planets? So that's either 864 and 1296 u/d. Even if it's 864 then you've cut your cost by 72%. That's around 11.4m to cover the difference. Not a bad rise from 9.6m considering the market still hasn't stabilized.

Also, the notion that the current PI system is difficult to maintain is sort of hilarious, and people expecting the new system to be less involved are in for a nasty shock.


 

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