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Stick Cult
Posted - 2010.10.11 18:06:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Spurty
128 bit windows is in the pipe line

I call shenanigans.

King Pleasure
Posted - 2010.10.11 18:09:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: HeIIfire11
Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 11/10/2010 17:45:56
Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 11/10/2010 17:43:36

Dont waste your last few pathetic brain cells trying to troll me..I am immune to your stupidity and do not care about your opinion.

I gave the op mine,what he does with it is his own thing.

32 bit was supposed to be "phased out" long ago btw.Im still waiting.And as long as I can run crisis at full quality,I see no need for more.I buy a computer every 5 years and give away my old one..32 wont be phased out in that time and I doubt a game will come out needing more than crisis in that time.

Rest of you trolls can suck my thorax..im done hereWink


Punctuation is normally followed by a space, then the next word. Helpful hint.

And 64.

Tonto Auri
Vhero' Multipurpose Corp
Posted - 2010.10.11 18:11:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: Tippia
We've come to another Win98 vs. WinNT break: any software (game or otherwise) that has issues running under 64bit is incompetently programmed and needs to be given a swift metal bolt to the skull to cut its suffering short.


Yeah... just one problem: device drivers often written in pure C or even ASM, and no less often rely on default record alignment. There's nothing wrong with it as long as it's compiled on the intended target platform, but moving to the new platform instantly freak out the data structures and they need to be all revised, as well as their treatment.

Quote:
Also, said incompetent programmers need to be told that they are incompetent, and get their skills up to par or get out of the business.


Yeah-yeah. How many programs you've written by yourself? Real programs, I mean. Do you even know how they work, at least?

Quote:
Run 64 bit. If you come across something that is giving you problems, that's a good sign that you shouldn't be using it to begin with.


"It", however, means "64bit", yes?

HeIIfire11
Posted - 2010.10.11 18:16:00 - [34]
 

Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 11/10/2010 18:23:56
Originally by: Stick Cult
It's been proven before that Hell is just an idiot.


Not the stick figure guy againRolling Eyes

No..but it has been proven that you are a troll who sticks his nose in every post,as well as his stupid opinions and hangs in the forum 24-7.Get a life.

As far as 32/64bit os..the op asked a question and I answered it.Your brain dead opinion isnt the only one that counts.Give your opinion if you want..but dont try to degrade anyone to your level.All mighty l337 gamer and all knowing forum god.Can I add you to my buddy..*cough*gank *cough* list so I can say I know someone as smart as you?I always wanted to know someone who beat life and knows it all.Give me a ****ing break.

Let me stop before I bust a lung laughing.Laughing

Originally by: King Pleasure
Punctuation is normally followed by a space, then the next word. Helpful hint.


Oh,Im sorry Mr.Pleasure but I wasnt aware that this was grammar school or that I had anything to prove here.Wouldnt want anyone in this highly intelectual forum to think bad of meRolling Eyes

Dr Fighter
Posted - 2010.10.11 18:19:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Tonto Auri

Quote:
Run 64 bit. If you come across something that is giving you problems, that's a good sign that you shouldn't be using it to begin with.


"It", however, means "64bit", yes?


"It" reffers to the program that doesnt work on 64bit OS i think.

Spurty
Caldari
V0LTA
VOLTA Corp
Posted - 2010.10.11 18:22:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: Stick Cult
Originally by: Spurty
128 bit windows is in the pipe line

I call shenanigans.


windows 8 kernel may support it in some emulation sort of mode, windows 9 should support it native if chip manufacturers get it working by then.

of course its coming and its not unreasonable after 64bit CPUs have been around for decades.


Ascendic
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2010.10.11 18:22:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: HeIIfire11
Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 11/10/2010 17:18:51
Originally by: Rudolph Heimlich
Edited by: Rudolph Heimlich on 11/10/2010 17:14:24
Unless you are aware of any reasons for you personally not to use 64-bit, it is what you should go for. Chances are you'll do just fine with 32-bit, as very few programs for non-power users requires >4GB RAM to be allocated at any one time - eve included. But 64-bit is the future. And I am also assuming you run Windows, which has an inbuilt emulator that works well for most things that do not support 64-bit yet.

Originally by: HeIIfire11


and you want to know it all mr.under a rock.My wife has windows 7 64 and has nothing but problems installing anything,while Im already gaming.To each their own.


Rarely has the OS been the problem when a woman encounters a computer-related problem. Laughing

To be serious...
I use 64-bit on all my computers and I have not had any problems installing any software or game that is caused by me using 64-bit. It has been quite a while since I've heard a lot of complaints from other people running 64-bit, so I am guessing your problem lies with outdated software or hardware instead, tbh.


By the time 64 is fully used youll be getting a new computer..


Googl it damn it,copy and past this"problems installing games on windows 7 64bit" do it now beavis!!

64 bit works but installing stuff is always a mission.google it and you will see the tears.And my 32 rocks,with now problem playing anything turned all up.For eve..good enough anyday..with all settings on high assuming you have the right hardware.


Inappropriate comments removed. Jericho

The ONLY problems I have ever had with a 64-bit os was when Vista was FRIST released. And that was due to companies being lazy and not posting compatible drivers etc. A year later and everything worked just fine. Since Windows 7 release there has been 0 problems. 99% of the problems are what people refer to as PEBKAC. Problem exists between keyboard and chair.

Now do me a favour and shut the f*ck up spouting your useless garbage around here. You could google and find people crying trying to install a sprinkler in their yard for christs sakes.

tl;dr: You are a god damn tool.

De'Veldrin
Minmatar
Norse'Storm Battle Group
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2010.10.11 18:23:00 - [38]
 

I am going to toss this out here just so I can watch people start foaming at the mouth. Because it amuses me.

I run a 64-bit operating system - Vista 64 - never had any problems with it except that it didn't seem to like the obscure C compiler my university tried to push on us.

When I am ready to buy a new PC (this one is about 3 years old), I will move up to Windows 7 64 bit (or whatever flavor of Windows is on the market in 64 bit) because I really like having 6 gigs of Ram floating around.

The bulk of the problems you will run into trying to upgrade will be with older hardware and drivers and the odd software package that is 32 bit only (and won't run under the compatibility mode for whatever reason - see my comment about that C compiler). In the last three years that's the only piece of software I have tried to use that wouldn't run (and I have never seen one fail to install - even that crappy compiler installed, it just wouldn't run).

As with any update of an OS, prepare for the worst.

1. Find all the drivers for you hardware FOR THE NEW OS. Never expect the old ones to work.
2. Make sure you check your hardware for compatibility and be prepared to replace those that aren't compatible. Sometimes you can squeak by, sometimes you can't. But if it says NOT COMPATIBLE don't be surprised when it doesn't work.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2010.10.11 18:27:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Tonto Auri
There's nothing wrong with it as long as it's compiled on the intended target platform,
Like I said: if it has issues, it's incompetently programmed.
Quote:
Yeah-yeah. How many programs you've written by yourself? Real programs, I mean. Do you even know how they work, at least?
A fair bunch. But they were HIRO-environment control systems, so maybe I'm being harsh on this simplistic desktop stuff.
Quote:
"It", however, means "64bit", yes?
Of course not. The referent is rather obvious.

HeIIfire11
Posted - 2010.10.11 18:29:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: Ascendic
The ONLY problems I have ever had...


I I I and I..stfu its not all about you.You can refrain from posting too if all your worried about is my comment.

You mad bro?Laughing

Try to answer the op instead of getting heated you muppet.

Troll on ..this is really not worth my timeRolling Eyes

brutoid
Caldari
Posted - 2010.10.11 18:33:00 - [41]
 

64-bit.

Illwill Bill
Svea Crusaders
Posted - 2010.10.11 18:33:00 - [42]
 

I have been running Windows 7 x64 since launch, and really haven't had any problems with recent games. The Homeworld games were a bit tricky, but are now running as well.

There are a lot of older ('95-'98) software using 16-bit installers, and these will not work, as the x64 editions of Windows lack a 16-bit execution environment.

Ascendic
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2010.10.11 18:37:00 - [43]
 

Edited by: Ascendic on 11/10/2010 18:39:39
Originally by: HeIIfire11
Originally by: Ascendic
The ONLY problems I have ever had...


I I I and I..stfu its not all about you.You can refrain from posting too if all your worried about is my comment.

You mad bro?Laughing

Try to answer the op instead of getting heated you muppet.

Troll on ..this is really not worth my timeRolling Eyes


Oh really? Then why do you keep posting about your stupid wife? Its not about you fail troll. It merely proves how fu*king useless and ret arded you and your wife are and should not be using the computer in the first place. The only muppet I see here is you go back to getting someones hand shoved up your ass instead of talking out of it

HeIIfire11
Posted - 2010.10.11 18:41:00 - [44]
 

Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 11/10/2010 18:44:30
Originally by: Ascendic
Edited by: Ascendic on 11/10/2010 18:39:39
Originally by: HeIIfire11
Originally by: Ascendic
The ONLY problems I have ever had...


I I I and I..stfu its not all about you.You can refrain from posting too if all your worried about is my comment.

You mad bro?Laughing

Try to answer the op instead of getting heated you muppet.

Troll on ..this is really not worth my timeRolling Eyes


Oh really? Then why do you keep posting about your stupid wife? Its not about you fail troll. It merely proves how fu*king useless and ret arded you and your wife are and should not be using the computer in the first place. The only muppet I see here is you go back to getting someones hand shoved up your ass instead of talking out of it



You still here *****ing?
Yeah he madRazz

Edit:But you did surprise me I admit.I was expecting a "go back to wow" post from your kind.Good job on that oneWinkMight be hope for you yet.

Illwill Bill
Svea Crusaders
Posted - 2010.10.11 18:42:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: Spurty

128-bit Windows 8-kernel


Basically, what M$ are doing is to future-proof their architecture. I doubt we will see 128-bit consumer CPU's the next decade.

GPU's on the other hand...

Ascendic
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2010.10.11 18:46:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: HeIIfire11
Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 11/10/2010 18:44:30
Originally by: Ascendic
Edited by: Ascendic on 11/10/2010 18:39:39
Originally by: HeIIfire11
Originally by: Ascendic
The ONLY problems I have ever had...


I I I and I..stfu its not all about you.You can refrain from posting too if all your worried about is my comment.

You mad bro?Laughing

Try to answer the op instead of getting heated you muppet.

Troll on ..this is really not worth my timeRolling Eyes


Oh really? Then why do you keep posting about your stupid wife? Its not about you fail troll. It merely proves how fu*king useless and ret arded you and your wife are and should not be using the computer in the first place. The only muppet I see here is you go back to getting someones hand shoved up your ass instead of talking out of it



You still here *****ing?
Yeah he madRazz

Edit:But you did surprise me I admit.I was expecting a "go back to wow" post from your kind.Good job on that oneWinkMight be hope for you yet.


Why are you still here I thought it wasnt worth your time?

I think its more like....

Umad?

CommanderShepard1
Gallente
Kaleidascopic Military Association
Posted - 2010.10.11 18:46:00 - [47]
 

Edited by: CommanderShepard1 on 11/10/2010 18:47:00
64 bit is definitely a better choice. (at least to me it is) Cool

De'Veldrin
Minmatar
Norse'Storm Battle Group
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2010.10.11 18:47:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: Tippia
Of course not. The referent is rather obvious.


I have never heard anyone actually use the word referent before, let alone use it correctly.

Hooray for educated people.

Stick Cult
Posted - 2010.10.11 18:47:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: HeIIfire11
Originally by: Ascendic
The ONLY problems I have ever had...


I I I and I..stfu its not all about you.

And yet the only thing you've been doing in this thread is claiming "NO YOU'RE ALL WRONG, I'M RIGHT!"

Hypocrite, much?

Llewelyn Fawr
Posted - 2010.10.11 18:50:00 - [50]
 

Is it possible to install both 32 and 64 bit version on different partitions as a dual-boot set-up?

If you're buying the retail version of the Windows 7 you'll get both versions on the disk.

You could then compare & contrast & use each for whatever function works best on that version...

Titus Phook
Posted - 2010.10.11 18:53:00 - [51]
 

64 bit is definitely the way to go, been running win 7 64 bit since the release candidate with absolutely no problems with installing any software, vista 64 bit however sucked balls which is why I junked it

Forum Guy
Posted - 2010.10.11 19:00:00 - [52]
 

Edited by: Forum Guy on 11/10/2010 19:15:51
Originally by: Makhar
I'm upgrading PCs. The primary role of my PC is to run EVE as I usually work from my laptop. So.... although both are supported, which is better for a machine running EVE? A 64-bit OS or a 32-bit OS?


A few years back got a system with Vista on it, went in to the shop thinking 64-bit, came away with a 32-bit OS (damn saleman, confused me with the playing old games trick, just ignore all that bs). The system had 4Gb of RAM too but not all was being used by the OS that's how I initally found out.

Anyway Vista 32-bit was crap from the start, and within a couple of weeks was regretting buying it with the 32-bit OS. But kept it until Win 7 came out.

Reformatted the hard-drive threw Vista in the bin and installed Win 7 64-bit and not had any problem since.

A lot of the old games look crap anyway as a lot of them don't support new resolutions.

Thaylon Sen
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.10.11 19:06:00 - [53]
 

Running Win7 64bit here, never had a problem, and EVE gained 20fps when i switched over from 32bit version.

Anyone telling you any different is living in the past, and clueless.

HeIIfire11
Posted - 2010.10.11 19:07:00 - [54]
 

Originally by: Ascendic
Why are you still here I thought it wasnt worth your time?

I think its more like....

Umad?


Yes Im really mad because some nobody is talking smak in the eve forumRolling EyesNo..but I admit sometimes I cant resist the temptation of making some muppet tear up his keyboardLaughing

Originally by: Stick Cult

And yet the only thing you've been doing in this thread is claiming "NO YOU'RE ALL WRONG, I'M RIGHT!"

Hypocrite, much?


I know your not the sharpest tool in the shed so Ill fill you in on what Ive been doin in this thread.

I stated my "opinion".I explained why thats my opinion,and that he should google it and see for himself.

Above all I stayed on topic and didnt say anyone was wrong.And I trolled a few wannabe trolls,which is always fun.And..I added you to my "buddy" list for being so damn cool.YARRRR!!Maybe my main will be bored enough to come play with you some dayWink

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2010.10.11 19:08:00 - [55]
 

…funnily enough, the 4GB limit in 32-bit Windows is actually a licensing issue more than anything else – you can make anything from XP and onward to make use of more. It's just not officially supported for a number of (occasionally even good) reasons.

Snowmann
Posted - 2010.10.11 19:08:00 - [56]
 

I've been running 64 bit since Win7 RC with very few issues.

The only serious issue I've seen is with some older software around 8-10 yrs old, but once I gave if full admin rights while running in compatibility mode it starting working fine.

The more older software you have the more potential issues you will have.
In that case you could always try out the Windows XP virtual machine that can be added to windows 7 for free; the last time I checked anyways.


Illwill Bill
Svea Crusaders
Posted - 2010.10.11 19:12:00 - [57]
 

Originally by: Tippia
…funnily enough, the 4GB limit in 32-bit Windows is actually a licensing issue more than anything else – you can make anything from XP and onward to make use of more. It's just not officially supported for a number of (occasionally even good) reasons.


PAE is buggy and most video card drivers throw up on it.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2010.10.11 19:15:00 - [58]
 

Originally by: Illwill Bill
PAE is buggy and most video card drivers throw up on it.
…occasionally even good reasons. Wink

Illwill Bill
Svea Crusaders
Posted - 2010.10.11 19:21:00 - [59]
 

I think we should all start using old-school bank-switching.

Also, all applications not written in 6502 assebly should be banned.

Lykouleon
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.10.11 19:29:00 - [60]
 

Originally by: HeIIfire11
this is really not worth my timeRolling Eyes


and yet...you keep posting ugh

Are you the type of person that still uses Internet Explorer and thinks Java is "the leading and most useful coding language around"?


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