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Terra Mikael
Horizon Dynamics
Posted - 2010.10.10 15:38:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Terra Mikael on 21/10/2010 01:06:01

I've been playing eve pretty much for 3 years or so, and it always seemed to be on the up and up.

Sure, we had our share of nerfs, but overall it seemed that each little expansion always had a plus. It added something to the game that made things less boring.

But what really have we gotten recently? Planetary click-a-thon (makes mining exciting by comparison!). Oh, and the scorpion was re-skinned. Super! And the most glorious thing about the next expansion is going to be WoW style raiding in space. Oh, and we get to remake our avatars. woohoo.

Whats up with this ****ing lackluster content? There's a list of combat related problems a mile long, from from hybrids/blasters being less competitive to rockets, to destroyers to unbelievable lag, to, well, you get the picture.

Honestly its like CCP isn't even trying anymore. :****:

I mean look at the four patches before the last two. ****ing awesome. Trinity, Empyrean, Quantum, and Apocrypha were actually fun.

So chime in people who have seen a few patches, Has the quality of their work gone downhill, or has it gone WAY downhill?

Edit for clarity. Fanboys can't read well.

Please do not evade the profanity filter. Zymurgist

Niccolado Starwalker
Gallente
Shadow Templars
Posted - 2010.10.10 15:45:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 10/10/2010 15:46:04
Originally by: Terra Mikael
Edited by: Terra Mikael on 10/10/2010 15:40:48
I've been playing eve pretty much for 3 years or so, and it always seemed to be on the up and up.

Sure, we had our share of nerfs, but overall it seemed that each little expansion always had a plus. It added something to the combat aspect of the game.

And that's pretty much what eve is about - the combat. That and forum trolling. but i digresss...

But what really have we gotten recently? Planetary click-a-thon (makes mining exciting by comparison!). Oh, and the scorpion was re-skinned. Super! And the most glorious thing about the next expansion is going to be WoW style raiding in space. Oh, and we get to remake our avatars. woohoo.

Whats up with this ****ing lackluster content? There's a list of combat related problems a mile long, from from hybrids/blasters being less competitive to rockets, to destroyers to unbelievable lag, to, well, you get the picture.

Honestly its like CCP isn't even trying anymore. :****:

Waddayathing?


I have played for aprox. 5 years now and I find EVE to be still EVE. The only thing I find have changed is we have got much more whiners on the forums, and as such the tone towards each other become worse. Because when I joined early december 2005 everyone was nice and helpful. Now everyone is bitter and full of spite. But as I say: eve have very much stayed the same as a whole.


Voith
Posted - 2010.10.10 15:49:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Terra Mikael
Edited by: Terra Mikael on 10/10/2010 15:44:04

I've been playing eve pretty much for 3 years or so, and it always seemed to be on the up and up.

Sure, we had our share of nerfs, but overall it seemed that each little expansion always had a plus. It added something to the combat aspect of the game.

And that's pretty much what eve is about - the combat. That and forum trolling. but i digresss...

But what really have we gotten recently? Planetary click-a-thon (makes mining exciting by comparison!). Oh, and the scorpion was re-skinned. Super! And the most glorious thing about the next expansion is going to be WoW style raiding in space. Oh, and we get to remake our avatars. woohoo.

Whats up with this ****ing lackluster content? There's a list of combat related problems a mile long, from from hybrids/blasters being less competitive to rockets, to destroyers to unbelievable lag, to, well, you get the picture.

Honestly its like CCP isn't even trying anymore. :****:

Waddayathing?

Please do not evade the profanity filter. Zymurgist


Eve isn't going down hill.

It is already there. Eve went to **** the minute they allowed multiple characters/accounts per person.

Eve is not even a shadow of what it could have been with a 1 person = 1 Character limit.

Cipher Jones
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.10.10 15:52:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Terra Mikael
Edited by: Terra Mikael on 10/10/2010 15:44:04

I've been playing eve pretty much for 3 years or so, and it always seemed to be on the up and up.

Sure, we had our share of nerfs, but overall it seemed that each little expansion always had a plus. It added something to the combat aspect of the game.

And that's pretty much what eve is about - the combat. That and forum trolling. but i digresss...

But what really have we gotten recently? Planetary click-a-thon (makes mining exciting by comparison!). Oh, and the scorpion was re-skinned. Super! And the most glorious thing about the next expansion is going to be WoW style raiding in space. Oh, and we get to remake our avatars. woohoo.

Whats up with this ****ing lackluster content? There's a list of combat related problems a mile long, from from hybrids/blasters being less competitive to rockets, to destroyers to unbelievable lag, to, well, you get the picture.

Honestly its like CCP isn't even trying anymore. :****:

Waddayathing?

Please do not evade the profanity filter. Zymurgist


So EvE had content when you started playing but it doesn't now even tho they haven't removed any?

****ing amazing.


Niccolado Starwalker
Gallente
Shadow Templars
Posted - 2010.10.10 15:53:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 10/10/2010 15:54:47
Originally by: Voith
Originally by: Terra Mikael
Edited by: Terra Mikael on 10/10/2010 15:44:04

I've been playing eve pretty much for 3 years or so, and it always seemed to be on the up and up.

Sure, we had our share of nerfs, but overall it seemed that each little expansion always had a plus. It added something to the combat aspect of the game.

And that's pretty much what eve is about - the combat. That and forum trolling. but i digresss...

But what really have we gotten recently? Planetary click-a-thon (makes mining exciting by comparison!). Oh, and the scorpion was re-skinned. Super! And the most glorious thing about the next expansion is going to be WoW style raiding in space. Oh, and we get to remake our avatars. woohoo.

Whats up with this ****ing lackluster content? There's a list of combat related problems a mile long, from from hybrids/blasters being less competitive to rockets, to destroyers to unbelievable lag, to, well, you get the picture.

Honestly its like CCP isn't even trying anymore. :****:

Waddayathing?

Please do not evade the profanity filter. Zymurgist


Eve isn't going down hill.

It is already there. Eve went to **** the minute they allowed multiple characters/accounts per person.

Eve is not even a shadow of what it could have been with a 1 person = 1 Character limit.


Then EVE have always been at the bottom, since it have always been like this.

By the way, why are you playing a game which have always been at the bottom?


Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
Posted - 2010.10.10 15:58:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 10/10/2010 16:06:23
I think if CCP could go back in time there are many things they'd have done differently when making this game, which are now neigh on impossible to change, so they've put all their hopes and dreams into a new MMO they're building using what they've learned from this one.

We'll get trickle down content from this new MMO through Incarna, but aside from that i don't think any more awesome changes are coming to EVE.

Oh, and i don't see how rawkets and blasters even come into the picture here. Get over it already.

Voith
Posted - 2010.10.10 15:59:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker


Then EVE have always been at the bottom, since it have always been like this.

By the way, why are you playing a game which have always been at the bottom?




Because after a while you get tired of playing internet Orks and Dorks v.15.

It is just shameful that Eve could have been so much more.

Cipher Jones
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.10.10 15:59:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Cipher Jones on 10/10/2010 16:00:46
Quote:
It is already there. Eve went to **** the minute they allowed multiple characters/accounts per person.


Every single game in existence does this and always has. Grow up.

Guttripper
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2010.10.10 16:00:00 - [9]
 

I feel Eve has gotten soft when it went from a download only game to one that can be store bought and opens with a parental rating.

Ascendic
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2010.10.10 16:00:00 - [10]
 

Since dominion it has in fact gone down hill. Not so much in terms of no longer being EVE, but just the gameplay and quality of work being done on the game seems to have dropped substantially.

Voith
Posted - 2010.10.10 16:01:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Cipher Jones
Quote:
It is already there. Eve went to **** the minute they allowed multiple characters/accounts per person.[/eve]

Every single game in existence does this and always has. Grow up.


And until Eve every single MMO was about Elves casting Magic Missile.

Eve should just Grow up and stop trying to change things with its "sand box" and Non-Fantasy setting.

Vak'ran
TUIG Inc.
Posted - 2010.10.10 16:06:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 10/10/2010 15:46:04
Originally by: Terra Mikael
Edited by: Terra Mikael on 10/10/2010 15:40:48
I've been playing eve pretty much for 3 years or so, and it always seemed to be on the up and up.

Sure, we had our share of nerfs, but overall it seemed that each little expansion always had a plus. It added something to the combat aspect of the game.

And that's pretty much what eve is about - the combat. That and forum trolling. but i digresss...

But what really have we gotten recently? Planetary click-a-thon (makes mining exciting by comparison!). Oh, and the scorpion was re-skinned. Super! And the most glorious thing about the next expansion is going to be WoW style raiding in space. Oh, and we get to remake our avatars. woohoo.

Whats up with this ****ing lackluster content? There's a list of combat related problems a mile long, from from hybrids/blasters being less competitive to rockets, to destroyers to unbelievable lag, to, well, you get the picture.

Honestly its like CCP isn't even trying anymore. :****:

Waddayathing?


I have played for aprox. 5 years now and I find EVE to be still EVE. The only thing I find have changed is we have got much more whiners on the forums, and as such the tone towards each other become worse. Because when I joined early december 2005 everyone was nice and helpful. Now everyone is bitter and full of spite. But as I say: eve have very much stayed the same as a whole.




QFT

Only real difference is that the place has gotten busier, but with lots more to do at the same time. The only thing I really miss is the sense of wonder and the vastness of it all. I'm not sure if its the added population, the added content, my greater experience compared to the first months, or a combination of it all. Probably the latter.

As for the forums... probably the same thing: more people, more stuff to cry about, more people who claim to have all the marbles, all in one.

I'm still enjoying the game immensely.

Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente
Sigma Special Tactics Group
Posted - 2010.10.10 16:09:00 - [13]
 

I think the game has gotten better since I started in 2006.


Now all we need is to remove local in 0.0 and get rid of killmails, and screw the lag issue because blobs (and the huge power blocs that use them to shut 0.0 off for the rest of us) should go.

As for the WOW-style avatar creation, so what. If someone likes that stuff and wants to play with it all day, it does not affect me one bit.



Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
Posted - 2010.10.10 16:12:00 - [14]
 

god no. but the forums have been ****ing terrible recently, wtb forum mods that burninate trolls instead of letting them run around and ramble on about everything. (if only thekiller8 still played, I'd nominate him, he is the best forum mod I've ever seen)

the game could use some polish, some updates/balance to some things (geezus can they fix rockets already). Right now is a pretty damn good time.

I'd say they need to fix lag, but then the players will just blob it bigger,

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2010.10.10 16:14:00 - [15]
 

As a mere maudlin middle-ager, I'd say no EVE isn't but CCP might be.

Voith
Posted - 2010.10.10 16:17:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
god no. but the forums have been ****ing terrible recently, wtb forum mods that burninate trolls instead of letting them run around and ramble on about everything. (if only thekiller8 still played, I'd nominate him, he is the best forum mod I've ever seen)

the game could use some polish, some updates/balance to some things (geezus can they fix rockets already). Right now is a pretty damn good time.

I'd say they need to fix lag, but then the players will just blob it bigger,


If you think the crying now is bad you should have been around when they moved ABC rocks out of Empire, or when they added tracking/sig radius.

These forums ain't got nothin' on the old days.

Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
Posted - 2010.10.10 16:47:00 - [17]
 

Where normal people would see an increase in disgruntled customers, some just see in increase in 'trolls'.

Tyber Zaan
Posted - 2010.10.10 16:53:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Vak'ran
Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 10/10/2010 15:46:04
Originally by: Terra Mikael
Edited by: Terra Mikael on 10/10/2010 15:40:48
I've been playing eve pretty much for 3 years or so, and it always seemed to be on the up and up.

Sure, we had our share of nerfs, but overall it seemed that each little expansion always had a plus. It added something to the combat aspect of the game.

And that's pretty much what eve is about - the combat. That and forum trolling. but i digresss...

But what really have we gotten recently? Planetary click-a-thon (makes mining exciting by comparison!). Oh, and the scorpion was re-skinned. Super! And the most glorious thing about the next expansion is going to be WoW style raiding in space. Oh, and we get to remake our avatars. woohoo.

Whats up with this ****ing lackluster content? There's a list of combat related problems a mile long, from from hybrids/blasters being less competitive to rockets, to destroyers to unbelievable lag, to, well, you get the picture.

Honestly its like CCP isn't even trying anymore. :****:

Waddayathing?


I have played for aprox. 5 years now and I find EVE to be still EVE. The only thing I find have changed is we have got much more whiners on the forums, and as such the tone towards each other become worse. Because when I joined early december 2005 everyone was nice and helpful. Now everyone is bitter and full of spite. But as I say: eve have very much stayed the same as a whole.




QFT

Only real difference is that the place has gotten busier, but with lots more to do at the same time. The only thing I really miss is the sense of wonder and the vastness of it all. I'm not sure if its the added population, the added content, my greater experience compared to the first months, or a combination of it all. Probably the latter.

As for the forums... probably the same thing: more people, more stuff to cry about, more people who claim to have all the marbles, all in one.

I'm still enjoying the game immensely.


QFMFT! +10 internets to both of you.

Terra Mikael
Horizon Dynamics
Posted - 2010.10.10 16:54:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: Terra Mikael on 10/10/2010 16:56:11
Originally by: Cipher Jones


So EvE had content when you started playing but it doesn't now even tho they haven't removed any?

****ing amazing.




Well, eve had mostly finished content when I started playing.
Now they just seem to start making changes and say **** it, we'll do the rest later, or never.
It's like their staff all have ADHD or something. Somebody was asking how rails and rockets fit into this? Oh, they were never finished from quantum rise.

Just look at the half-assed probing system or planetary interaction. All Unpolished, awkward, yet still somewhat functional, it's like its all in beta. and there is a thousand other examples of things that they started on then just left.

oh and zergling, blow me lol. WWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNKK LOLOLOLOL

Gneeznow
Minmatar
Ship spinners inc
Posted - 2010.10.10 16:54:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Ascendic
Since dominion it has in fact gone down hill. Not so much in terms of no longer being EVE, but just the gameplay and quality of work being done on the game seems to have dropped substantially.


been here since 2006 and I agree, last few expansions have been dire, and the list of broken things has just been getting longer and longer while they release expansions with great new things like new scorpion model or support for alienware keyboards or planetary clickfest while seemingly neglecting the whole spaceship part of the game, sad thing is I no longer care as I completely lost faith in CCP over a year ago and just stuck about to see if it would improve, but finally cancelled my 2 accounts last week and am not at all bothered about leaving as its no longer a fun game for me.

Shinjin Malvek
Amarr
Phoenix Accord
SRS.
Posted - 2010.10.10 16:57:00 - [21]
 

To the OP...... Can I has your stuff?? Laughing

Terra Mikael
Horizon Dynamics
Posted - 2010.10.10 16:58:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Shinjin Malvek
To the OP...... Can I has your stuff?? Laughing


if by stuff you mean my hot man chowder, sure, open wide and say aahhhhh!

Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
Posted - 2010.10.10 17:04:00 - [23]
 

Re-Title: Yup.

Bud Johnson
Broski Enterprises
Posted - 2010.10.10 17:17:00 - [24]
 

Eve isn't going downhill. The problem is that whiners are constructing a larger hill with their tears.

Easy fix: Instead of typing out that bawww post go play a different game(preferably after giving me your stuff).

WhiteSavage
Gallente
Ever Flow
Systematic-Chaos
Posted - 2010.10.10 17:21:00 - [25]
 

canceled my accounts but i still have 4 months to go lol cuz i always prepay by the year....

Oh well.

But ya seriously, people that keep dog-heartedly playing are fools. This game is too broke. Not to mention boring. After 3 years I'm moving on.

Grimpak
Gallente
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
Posted - 2010.10.10 17:22:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Bud Johnson
Eve isn't going downhill. The problem is that whiners are constructing a larger hill with their tears.

Easy fix: Instead of typing out that bawww post go play a different game(preferably after giving me your stuff).
this.

Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
Posted - 2010.10.10 17:36:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Professor Tarantula
I think if CCP could go back in time there are many things they'd have done differently when making this game, which are now neigh on impossible to change, so they've put all their hopes and dreams into a new MMO they're building using what they've learned from this one.

We'll get trickle down content from this new MMO through Incarna, but aside from that i don't think any more awesome changes are coming to EVE.

The stuff trickling down on us from WoD and Dust will be the corification of the freaking whole codebase.. CCP never wouldn't even have touched this kind of work with a 10 feet pole if there wouldn't be the need for it to get WoD and Dust out of the door and maintainable.
But yeah.. keep sulking, fits you. Razz

Liz Viscious
Caldari
Quantum Pathways
Posted - 2010.10.10 17:44:00 - [28]
 

It's good enough to keep my subscribed until Diablo III (or beta) come my way.

Can't ask for much more than that.

heheheh
Phoenix Club
Posted - 2010.10.10 17:44:00 - [29]
 

Game seems fine to me, theres more to it now then there ever was, im enjoying it just as much as i was in 2005.
Its only going downhill if you take notice of the whining minority on the forum.
Most people that play the game dont even post here, Im just glad cataclysm is out soon so all the fickle folk can go and farm boars instead of crying here.

Pesky LaRue
Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels
Etherium Cartel
Posted - 2010.10.10 17:58:00 - [30]
 

Edited by: Pesky LaRue on 10/10/2010 18:03:56
Originally by: Professor Tarantula
Where normal people would see an increase in disgruntled customers, some just see in increase in 'trolls'.
Disgruntled customers unsubscribe, trolls come to the forums spreading their piss and vinegar


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