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Posted - 2011.06.23 16:50:00 - [1501]

I already voted no so this is just a reason for ccp not to.
From a monetary view MT seems a great prospect for CCP, but as players we hate that ****.
Micro transactions are bad not only for players but also for CCP.
Lets say eve has at minimum 100k subscribers. I estimate at least (if CCP is lucky) 15+% will quit if MT is introduced.
CCP loses $225,000 a month ($2.7 million a year) to implement micro transactions. Not everyone will buy these items (most of the remaining players won't)
Even if people do buy Aurum it is a one time purchase not a monthly purchase.
MT will result in a net loss for CCP.
From a buisness standpoint and gaming standpoint MT for items that give in game bonuses suck

Posted - 2011.06.23 16:52:00 - [1502]


Dorian Tormak
Posted - 2011.06.23 16:52:00 - [1503]


Posted - 2011.06.23 16:54:00 - [1504]


Posted - 2011.06.23 16:54:00 - [1505]

Cosmetic Only

Marcus Luso
Mercenaries of Andosia
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2011.06.23 16:55:00 - [1506]

Cosmetic only 100%.. if CCP wishes to charge outrageous amounts of RL money for idiotic ship paintjobs or even the monocle.. they can. IDK

If they start implementing any changes to the system that go outside this vanity set then I can not stand by that. Plex for remap is too far in my opinion.. and it shouldn't be allowed. We do not play a F2P game where they need to bring in the MT income because its how they keep the servers up.. nor do I really want to have MT in place so you can fund your next projects. I am playing Eve because I love.. Eve.

Alissa Solette
Posted - 2011.06.23 16:56:00 - [1507]

No, remove the existing ones and fire the person who came up with this ******ed idea.

Posted - 2011.06.23 16:59:00 - [1508]

Originally by: Alissa Solette
No, remove the existing ones and fire the person who came up with this ******ed idea.

The money they save from that could replace MT revenue. Win-Win

Hauling hogs
Swine Aviation Labs
Posted - 2011.06.23 17:19:00 - [1509]

NO **** micro transactions in EvE!!

Race Drones
13th Squadron
Posted - 2011.06.23 17:21:00 - [1510]


I can approve COSMETIC ONLY.

Arethanerielle Xhiril
Umbrella Chemical Inc.
Posted - 2011.06.23 17:24:00 - [1511]

cosmetic only

Adrian Dixon
Posted - 2011.06.23 17:30:00 - [1512]


Mahnmut Orphu
Posted - 2011.06.23 17:32:00 - [1513]


Cosmetic only would be disappointing, but I would still play.

Ceq Lysander
Posted - 2011.06.23 17:37:00 - [1514]


I used to be ok with vanity items, but seeing the prices of those and the how much CCP is taking the ****, I say remove MT completely. No vanity items. We pay a subscription, that should cover everything available in game.

Kawika Blaisdale
Posted - 2011.06.23 17:41:00 - [1515]


I do want to say there is another post with a great suggestion regarding these items. SOME items should be outrageously priced as they are VANITY items. The value of vanity items lying in the fact that only a few can afford them.

But there should be more items that are affordable so all pilots can enjoy them. For example, the monocle should be expensive. I plan to purchase one and would prefer that less than a hundred or so others had it. What good is vanity if everyone has one? Right now, it's a Rolls Royce. People are suggesting it become a Hundai. I say NO to that.

Clothes however should be affordable to EVERYONE. Jewlery pershaps should have a range. Some affordable, some other unique pieces, more expensive.

PWNED Factor
The Seventh Day
Posted - 2011.06.23 17:45:00 - [1516]

Cosmetic Only

Kievan Ariskana
Posted - 2011.06.23 17:56:00 - [1517]

The Pit Crew
Posted - 2011.06.23 18:33:00 - [1518]


Khyron Malafactor
Posted - 2011.06.23 18:46:00 - [1519]

[Cosmetic Only]

Posted - 2011.06.23 18:56:00 - [1520]

[Cosmetic Only] AND NOTHING MORE THEN $10 !!! FFS look at Valve's TF2 and learn from them!

Xyla Vulchanus
Sarz'na Khumatari
Posted - 2011.06.23 18:56:00 - [1521]


Terra Incognita
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2011.06.23 18:58:00 - [1522]

I'm going to self quote here (because it's the best phrasing I've come up with) and then go on to explain in a wall of text now that I know CCP is watching this thread.

Originally by: "BeanBagKing"
Lets take the golf analogy. I pay for my own clubs (keyboard), balls (snicker... mouse), bag (screen), etc. At the end of the day those are mine and I take them home.

I go to a course and I pay to have access to that course (CCP's servers). They use my money to upkeep the greens (expansions) and fix divots (bugs, that one was easy).

What CCP is, in effect, talking about is letting me walk onto their course and pay for a hole in one....

This is why players grudgingly put up with vanity items. I don't like them, but hey, I'm not going to use them so whatever. If someone wants to see their fairway as bright pink, then whatever, it's not my cup of tea, but it doesn't change the game. When someone pays an extra $30 to have a stroke removed, that's a different story. It ruins the enjoyment of the game, immediately for me. They may win a few rounds, but once all the legitimate players stop going to that golf course, there isn't anything left for them either.

Yes I know there's a lot of gray area, people have been talking about PLEX -> ISK -> Ships for a while now. Vanity items are another gray area. At some point a dark enough shade of grey turns to black for me, that's where this is headed.

Really sports is the most horrible example you could use, from CCP's perspective. Sure, twisted by a marketing guy it sounds great, but look at the core idea. I'm paying for an advantage and/or a shortcut... That is EXACTLY what sports are all about NOT doing. They are about the individuals skill, not about buying 10 more touchdowns that the next guy.

I don't like the vanity items, I think it introduces a completely unnecessary element to the game. I actually like CQ, more specifically, it's meh in it's current form, but I like where it's headed, I want to walk in stations. Not because I'll be doing a lot of it, I'm a pvp nullsec player, but I love scifi games, and I love the idea of a completely scifi world where I could walk around my ship, etc. The new NeX market (I think that's the name of it) doesn't add anything though except money to CCP's wallet. You really want a market for stuff like that make it player run, and items are destroyed if your capsule is. That would add something to the walking in stations experience IMO.

However, even in it's current form I say whatever. It's like I say above, I may not want to pay for a bright pink fairway, but if others do, then so be it. It's a completely different story if you start talking about paying, or being paid, to hold sov, get faction standings, or store more ship fittings (something that we were originally able to do). I think the community has a right to be outraged by it, especially when you previously told us this wouldn't happen and the players expressly said they didn't want it.

Now you are getting some really bad press coverage over it and a lot of players say they are leaving, I guess only you know if they really are with your metrics. Basically, we told you so when we voted against all of that MT business. You had a great vision for this game, total scifi and player run economy. I'm not marketing expert, so I don't know how this MT business will turn out, I'll say it like I've said before though, I don't want to go in this direction with you, and it seems other players don't either. With the bad press, I don't think new players will want to follow either.

Strider Hiryu
Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
Posted - 2011.06.23 19:04:00 - [1523]


Moss Rose
Posted - 2011.06.23 19:08:00 - [1524]

no Evil or Very Mad

Suzie Buzie
Posted - 2011.06.23 19:25:00 - [1525]

No! Evil or Very Mad

Darth Khasei
Posted - 2011.06.23 19:41:00 - [1526]

Cosmetic only.

Don't want to deprive anyone of a chance to wear an overpriced dress.Shocked

Posted - 2011.06.23 19:49:00 - [1527]


I do not care if a week old noob buys 200 million skill points and a titan.
I do not care if somebody has 3 monocles in their face and a golden cowboy hat.
I do not care if the scorpion I just killed has a different paint job than others.
I do not care if people remap their attributes with every skill change.

what ever they do, they will not have an advantage over me, merely be up to equal within less time, and does not change my game play in any way what so ever.

a CCP with more money is an EVE with more/better hardware/devs/features/fixes.

Cedric deBouilard
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.06.23 19:56:00 - [1528]

Cosmetic Only

Dust Hunter
Muppet Ninja's
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
Posted - 2011.06.23 20:31:00 - [1529]


The Tuskers
Posted - 2011.06.23 20:32:00 - [1530]

Although I doubted him, T'amber was right.

A belated 'no' here. Confused

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