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Aine Lagerange
Minmatar
The Executives
IT Alliance
Posted - 2010.10.06 21:44:00 - [31]
 

Oh look,there is Ragnaros, he's in a Serpentis mothership, how awesome is that?

Charles37
Posted - 2010.10.06 22:15:00 - [32]
 

I, also, would like some sort of mechanic that limits the amount of people that can be in a single dungeon at a time. That being said though, I know a lot of people will want to invade dungeons that others are running (esp in low/0.0) so I'm not sure how that would balance out.

I won't be able to log on as soon as this new version of the test server goes live, but I really look forward to participating over the weekend to see what kind of content you have in store.

I haven't yet looked at the map, but I would hope that these three systems are all relatively close together, to make for a single, centralized place to test the dungeons. If they're spread out all over the galaxy you'll have people testing one and then probably not any others.

Noun Verber
Gallente
Posted - 2010.10.07 06:13:00 - [33]
 

Will the test be running on the weekend?

Oxylan
Posted - 2010.10.07 09:26:00 - [34]
 

Edited by: Oxylan on 07/10/2010 09:28:48
Five is minimaly numbers of gang members to enter dungeon ? Actualy my corp mates play casual style in eve so hard to get full team, personally i have multiple account, is possible to enter new dungeons with 3-4 combat ship ? or mimaly five?

Sorry for my gammar and English.

wizard87
Posted - 2010.10.07 10:44:00 - [35]
 

Dungeon...

So wrong to use that is a space game.

Incursion...

So wrong to use that word when this new content is more like a farm to be farmed by farmers.

JitaPriceChecker2
Posted - 2010.10.07 11:02:00 - [36]
 

Can i test being a pirat that wants to take the opportunity and blow you up while you are doing the site ?

Joss56
Gallente
Unleashed' Fury
Posted - 2010.10.07 11:42:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: JitaPriceChecker2
Can i test being a pirat that wants to take the opportunity and blow you up while you are doing the site ?


Hope not and hope somme day that guys with T2/3 ships that love pvp new player in T1 missioning, take a serious penality in they'r wallet (35 to 45% should help them to get somme balls and go pvp in low sec).

Laughing

Amarok Tonrar
5ER3NITY INC
Posted - 2010.10.07 12:38:00 - [38]
 

So let me get this straight. When this goes live, will this 10, 20 or 40 people thing be the max number of pilots able to enter these so-called dungeons?

If so, I think fleets and isk farmers just found their new safe spot/safety net from roaming pvp'ers.

Tankamos
Posted - 2010.10.07 13:18:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Amarok Tonrar
So let me get this straight. When this goes live, will this 10, 20 or 40 people thing be the max number of pilots able to enter these so-called dungeons?

If so, I think fleets and isk farmers just found their new safe spot/safety net from roaming pvp'ers.


Originally by: "CCP Manticore"

It is very important that you stick with these numbers when you do your testing. This will help us be more precise with our balancing work.

You will need to scan the dungeons down. Once you find one and go to it, it will pop up on the overview for everyone to see




stick with these numbers - probably means that you should'nt jump in a massive fleet, but it's possible
it will pop up on the overview for everyone to see - I read that this means that beacons are no safe spots.

My guess on this whole 5/10/20 pilots thing is that they have developed a site-escalation algorithm that adapts to the number of pilots, meaning if you attack with a bigger fleet, more enemy ships will be present, use less pilots and you get fewer ships to fight.

That's a good reason for constraining the numbers at this stage. They want to adjust that algorightm. Im guessing also that in the next stage we will maybe have 100 pilots on one beacon and test that escalation factor.

Tankamos
Posted - 2010.10.07 13:22:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: Joss56
Originally by: JitaPriceChecker2
Can i test being a pirat that wants to take the opportunity and blow you up while you are doing the site ?


Hope not and hope somme day that guys with T2/3 ships that love pvp new player in T1 missioning, take a serious penality in they'r wallet (35 to 45% should help them to get somme balls and go pvp in low sec).

Laughing



If you stay in highsec no one will attack you without good reason, considering you need a good ship (50m+ inc fittings) to kill someone before CONCORD comes along. And if you are doing missions in nullsec, alone, in a T1... You're a fool and deserves to have your pod blown apart.

Smagd
Encina Technologies
Namtz' aar K'in
Posted - 2010.10.07 18:12:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: Oxylan
Five is minimaly numbers of gang members to enter dungeon ? Actualy my corp mates play casual style in eve so hard to get full team, personally i have multiple account, is possible to enter new dungeons with 3-4 combat ship ? or mimaly five?

Sorry for my gammar and English.


Don't worry, I understand you :) Most often, it's the english dialects that are hard to understand.

Try it on Sisi, really.

It's most likely not solo content unless you're willing to risk a capital in low-sec. There was a single ship I saw in Poitot yesterday that solo tanked one of the Beacons: An X-Large Shield Booster Claymore. T3 wrecks littered the field and even high tank battleships got blown apart to the tune of estimated 1600 DPS incoming.

It's much like C4 or C5 sleepers in that regard - I have no data yet on how hard individual beacons are, but there was one what would spawn Logistics Structures 120 km away that needed to be hacked to disabled every few seconds, or you wouldn't kill anything.

That said, 2 Logistics Cruisers kept our gang alive easily. After that it's just a question of bringing enough damage. And I think if you bring a GOOD Logistics Cruiser, one may be enough - but your DPS group had better have a spare high for emergency remote repairs to the Logistics.

Saul Elsyn
INTERSTELLAR ENTERPRISE
Posted - 2010.10.08 03:10:00 - [42]
 

1600 DPS... so around 2 PvP close combat ships worth of DPS. From how many NPCs? 15 or so... I still think they should throw in some Sansha Battleships that walk up to our faces and deliver around 800 DPS by themselves... Not all of course and if they're fitted like PvP ships and scattered in a dungeon you can see em coming before they start laying on the smack. So then yo Alpha em and move on to the snipers. That's called tactics.

Can we see more tactics in PvE? Please?

Oxylan
Posted - 2010.10.08 14:37:00 - [43]
 




Don't worry, I understand you :) Most often, it's the english dialects that are hard to understand.

Try it on Sisi, really.

...


Thank you for answer and info, Smagd.

o7

SunGodRa
Caldari
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2010.10.08 22:04:00 - [44]
 

Is this a closed testing?? Because all i get is that server doesnt accept connections.

Terra Mikael
Horizon Dynamics
Posted - 2010.10.10 03:44:00 - [45]
 

lol....dungeons...Rolling Eyes


JackStraw56
Bayesian Motion
Knights of Tomorrow
Posted - 2010.10.10 05:41:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: Terra Mikael
lol....dungeons...Rolling Eyes



I have to agree....did the devs look up the definition of this word before deciding to use it in this context?? It doesn't fit at all.

Tiger's Spirit
Caldari
Posted - 2010.10.10 11:04:00 - [47]
 

The playerbase want to this ... ?
No.

I dont understand CCP why trying to push so hard the player base, who dont want this.

We want PvP oriented wow raid dungeons ? No.

PvP against NPCships, which can using medium neuts from 50km, NPC frigs which now using tracking distruptors from 80km with 20 km target range, which cant neutralized.

Thx, but no thx.


Astro Babylon
Posted - 2010.10.10 19:57:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: Tiger's Spirit
The playerbase want to this ... ?
No.

I dont understand CCP why trying to push so hard the player base, who dont want this.

We want PvP oriented wow raid dungeons ? No.

PvP against NPCships, which can using medium neuts from 50km, NPC frigs which now using tracking distruptors from 80km with 20 km target range, which cant neutralized.

Thx, but no thx.



The one man playerbase has spoken!

Kayl Breinhar
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.10.11 03:59:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: JackStraw56
Originally by: Terra Mikael
lol....dungeons...Rolling Eyes



I have to agree....did the devs look up the definition of this word before deciding to use it in this context?? It doesn't fit at all.

The next time you patch, take a look at the files being loaded. Every piece of PVE content in EVE comes from "dungeon" files. It's what they've called them for years.

The bigger problem is absolutely no one on SiSi is testing this because there's no incentive. The sheer fact that this post is still struggling to break three pages should be proof enough that people feel they don't need to "practice" PvE content they'll likely have little interest in come patch day.

Jason1138
Posted - 2010.10.11 16:16:00 - [50]
 

Helping with Singularity Testing is still a pain, but it looks like things might be improving:

1. Old Sisi Client wouldn't connect, incompatible build. This was expected. Tried to auto patch itself, checksum failed.

2. Repair.exe old Sisi client. Downloaded stuff, tried to apply patch to a temp directory, couldn't change to correct directory, failed.

3. Delete entire Sisi client, make a new copy of working TQ client. This fallback usually works, only this time it can't find a matching patch to download. Fail.

4. Repair.exe on it works, but repairs to TQ instead of Sisi. Fail.

4. Forum surfing a bit, I discover the Sisi Launcher. Download works, starts checksumming and downloading MASSIVE ammounts of stuff.

5. Sisi connect works! "Read and accept the EULA please" Uh. All settings lost. But connection's there.

6. New TQ dump, i. e. I'm somewhere in the deep dark. Right. Moveme, fit new ship, but at least the 6m test skill points are still there - nice, that!

7. EMERGENCY SHUTDOWN IN 10 MINUTES! Oh cool. Reconnect after shutdown. Build incompatible (looks like Sisi is on TQ waiit ... I just fixed my client!)

8. Wait 15 minutes. Ah good! Sisi got patched. Reconnect. Build incompatible. Go to Step 4. 230MB patch download pending. 33% done at this moment.

Naturally, I haven't sitting in front of the computer watching it do all this all the time, but I thought trying to get onto Sisi 13:15ish would be ample time to get set up for actual testing near 14:00, but it's 16:05 now and I'm still downloading patches.

So that's your patch feedback for now. I think I'll go have dinner and maybe try again later in the night.



that pretty much sums up my Sisi experience for the last 2 months. every time i try to log on its unusable

Kanatta Jing
Posted - 2010.10.12 01:10:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: Kayl Breinhar
The bigger problem is absolutely no one on SiSi is testing this because there's no incentive. The sheer fact that this post is still struggling to break three pages should be proof enough that people feel they don't need to "practice" PvE content they'll likely have little interest in come patch day.


That is not the issue. It's flat out beyond the reach of anyones PVE experience to have an Sansha encounter that can't be solo'd with enough SP and ISK.

The other problem is you need a fleet to properly test Incursions. And it's really tricky to assemble a fleet without your corp mates.

HeliosGal
Caldari
Posted - 2010.10.13 18:59:00 - [52]
 

so whatever happened to the other epic pirate arcs or 00 factional warfare , and why only sansha wil this be expanded to blood and other pirate groups or is this a one factional feature and then well move on to TheNnextBigThing TNBT and CCP will leave this half baked to ?

phobos1
Amarr
Sinarity Industries
Posted - 2010.10.19 21:04:00 - [53]
 

Edited by: phobos1 on 19/10/2010 21:08:27
Evil or Very Mad well ive not been able too download and get onto singularity since the last test something seems too be blocking every effort I make too get a working download , now ive stopped trying so I hope its better than the downloads ive tried so far !! Twisted EvilEmbarassedugh

HeliosGal
Caldari
Posted - 2010.10.21 00:38:00 - [54]
 

the downloads are a necessary part

phobos1
Amarr
Sinarity Industries
Posted - 2010.10.21 19:13:00 - [55]
 

Edited by: phobos1 on 21/10/2010 19:14:56
well after my last post concerning not being able too get a working download for singularity I try once more and too my suprise I got a working download for singularity !!test site -- So I thought I might be able too join in the testing once more -- yeah right after a few hours some joker decided too alter the site once again the old incompatible build was back again !! now I know it needs updating a lot but this is taking the P*** !! so I ask myself who is taking the P*** out of me ? finally I think I will just say *ollocks too it and stay off eve.

Zyress
Posted - 2010.11.05 16:45:00 - [56]
 

Is there a more specific release date for this than November?

Sassums
Gallente
Posted - 2010.11.06 02:02:00 - [57]
 

What is a Dungeon?

I hope Eve isn't going to start using "instances"

Obliv1on
Posted - 2010.11.09 00:11:00 - [58]
 

I dont know if this gonna be good,or a fail pve system.But i know only one thing.There will be moar targets to turn into pieces,especially when they trying to get rare drop items from a sansha titan.... hehe xD YARRRR!!

Gaia Ma'chello
Posted - 2010.11.09 00:15:00 - [59]
 

Originally by: Sassums
What is a Dungeon?

I hope Eve isn't going to start using "instances"


Its a reference to a set of areas linked by acceleration gates. So for example, the mission Worlds Collide is referred to as a 4 room dungeon.

Kanatta Jing
Posted - 2010.11.09 08:26:00 - [60]
 

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