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 Skid Skahular |
Posted - 2010.10.04 21:46:00 - [ 1]
Edited by: Skid Skahular on 04/10/2010 21:48:29 First of all i apologize to you for my English but this post is inspired by another post made by a non English speaker and I've tried to keep my post structurally as close to theirs as possibly. Plus I make horrible typos anyway.
What I want to say here is that the strategy of using instant Intel through Local Chat to avoid PvP encounters preventing Pirates and Raiders to work is becoming a curse with no risk PvE ruining the entire game. Hopeless Pirates and Raiders have to use cloaked ships and remain in system for days watching Local and scanners when not AFK, waiting for the locals to get comfortable with their presence in the system. This tactic of Local Intel makes it way too easy for players to farm ISK with little or no risk in space that is supposed to be very dangerous. The Attackers can do absolutely nothing to avoid this situation that is realy frustrating. They cannot track down miners, ratters, or anyone else not looking for a fight as they hide in their POS, Station, or simply log off. And also they don't know if he is AFK macroing or not. It is a silly and sick situation.
I can understand that Miners and Raters are there to be used in Nullsec. But not that way. I can understand their right to be in a system and make ISK. But to stay there in a system that is nearly completely safe is another thing. It is not fair at all for the owner of the stealth bomber who risks getting blown up at every gate trying to get into hostile space then have to go AFK for days for a chance to hit a target that is using Local Chat, all the while that other player, or rather macro miner is enjoying playing on their main character.
CCp must do something on that before players start leaving the game for good.
I don't like to complain without a proposal, i would suggest CCp to remove Local Chat from Nullsec . So defenders and attackers need to rely on scanners and actively gathered Intel.
If anyone of u has the same problem and has something better to propose please do it here.
Thank you
*Skid Skahular is an alt of mine for obvious reasons |
 Aggelos Theristes |
Posted - 2010.10.04 21:51:00 - [ 2]
This is both new and interesting. |
 Skid Skahular |
Posted - 2010.10.04 21:57:00 - [ 3]
Originally by: Aggelos Theristes This is both new and interesting.
Thank you Aggelos for your support and interest. |
 Stick Cult |
Posted - 2010.10.04 21:59:00 - [ 4]
Edited by: Stick Cult on 04/10/2010 22:00:36 I endorse this product and/or service. |
 colera deldios Gallente |
Posted - 2010.10.04 22:03:00 - [ 5]
100% agree. Expect alot of tears from 0.0 bears though. |
 Barakkus |
Posted - 2010.10.04 22:32:00 - [ 6]
They should really remove all chat windows period. I think the game would be much more interesting if we had to interpret intentions from the overview alone. |
 KhaniKirai |
Posted - 2010.10.04 22:42:00 - [ 7]
Lets also adres other ridiculous things.
Mining ships, that can handle tons and tons of materials per minute, yet they are as small as some combat vessel? That makes no sense? Lets face it, a Hulk should be like 1000000000 bigger as some bomber and you would need 1000000 bombers to kill one!
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 Mr Kidd |
Posted - 2010.10.04 22:50:00 - [ 8]
Edited by: Mr Kidd on 04/10/2010 22:51:04 Quote: i would suggest CCp to remove Local Chat from Nullsec
I see what you did there. |
 Skid Skahular |
Posted - 2010.10.04 23:19:00 - [ 9]
Originally by: KhaniKirai Lets also adres other ridiculous things.
Mining ships, that can handle tons and tons of materials per minute, yet they are as small as some combat vessel? That makes no sense? Lets face it, a Hulk should be like 1000000000 bigger as some bomber and you would need 1000000 bombers to kill one!
Hmmm.. yes I see your point, as we all know it would take a million torpedoes to sink a modern day oil tanker, cruise ship, or cargo vessel, because those torpedoes were launched from a much smaller submarine. Why didn't CCP and the rest of us think of that? |
 Shepard Book |
Posted - 2010.10.04 23:23:00 - [ 10]
This is alarming. We should ask for a counter to local chat! No. We should demand it! Maybe even whine about it. |
 ShahFluffers Ice Fire Warriors |
Posted - 2010.10.04 23:29:00 - [ 11]
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 Chony Caldari Dunder Mifflin Paper Co.
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Posted - 2010.10.04 23:32:00 - [ 12]
Originally by: Skid Skahular
Originally by: KhaniKirai Lets also adres other ridiculous things.
Mining ships, that can handle tons and tons of materials per minute, yet they are as small as some combat vessel? That makes no sense? Lets face it, a Hulk should be like 1000000000 bigger as some bomber and you would need 1000000 bombers to kill one!
Hmmm.. yes I see your point, as we all know it would take a million torpedoes to sink a modern day oil tanker, cruise ship, or cargo vessel, because those torpedoes were launched from a much smaller submarine. Why didn't CCP and the rest of us think of that?
Modern day oil tankers have multiple hulls so it would prob take billions of torpedoes to punch threw all those hulls and sink the ship. |
 HeIIfire11 |
Posted - 2010.10.04 23:37:00 - [ 13]
Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 04/10/2010 23:49:12 Originally by: Skid Skahular avoid PvP encounters preventing Pirates and Raiders to work is becoming a curse
Dont like it,you know where you can go. Shame on those pve guys using a game mehanic to avoid pvp  Its not like the pvp guys use game mechanics to force the pve guys into pvp    qft!!  Fixed |
 Jhoria Englside Caldari |
Posted - 2010.10.04 23:41:00 - [ 14]
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 Meridith Akesia Stimulus |
Posted - 2010.10.04 23:48:00 - [ 15]
Originally by: colera deldios 100% agree. Expect alot of tears from Macro Ratters though.
Fixed your post. |
 Skid Skahular |
Posted - 2010.10.04 23:52:00 - [ 16]
Originally by: Chony
Modern day oil tankers have multiple hulls so it would prob take billions of torpedoes to punch threw all those hulls and sink the ship.
Billions of Torpedoes! Maybe trillions even? |
 Thrasymachus TheSophist |
Posted - 2010.10.04 23:55:00 - [ 17]
Well played OP. +1 |
 Monistat Seven Caldari |
Posted - 2010.10.05 01:33:00 - [ 18]
** SPAM THREAD **
This is the third same dang thang in a week.
Wiz off OP |
 Taser Monkey Against All Asteroids |
Posted - 2010.10.05 03:35:00 - [ 19]
Edited by: Taser Monkey on 05/10/2010 03:37:00 Originally by: Skid Skahular I can understand that Miners and Raters are there to be used in Nullsec.
My big long Phobos wants to use you now so badly  *Taser Monkey is an alt of mine for obvious reasons. |
 Plastician Into The Pink
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Posted - 2010.10.05 04:03:00 - [ 20]
A lot of people don't get the OP  |
 H3llHound Nex Exercitus Raiden. |
Posted - 2010.10.05 09:40:00 - [ 21]
Come and find us in W-Space  |
 Cupio Mortem 101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda |
Posted - 2010.10.05 09:47:00 - [ 22]
Originally by: Skid Skahular
CCp must do something on that before players start leaving the game for good.
...Wait what? |
 Dark Pony |
Posted - 2010.10.05 09:49:00 - [ 23]
It is obvious we need a compromise here. If missioners / miners / explorers PROMISE us to close their local channel windows in lowsec and 0.0, we promise them not to cloak with our lethal, unbeatable covops star-destroyers. How's that?
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 Nuts Nougat SniggWaffe FREE KARTTOON NOW |
Posted - 2010.10.05 10:23:00 - [ 24]
Originally by: Dark Pony It is obvious we need a compromise here. If missioners / miners / explorers PROMISE us to close their local channel windows in lowsec and 0.0, we promise them not to cloak with our lethal, unbeatable covops star-destroyers. How's that?
I can get behind this proposal. |
 Supai Arkasi |
Posted - 2010.10.05 10:26:00 - [ 25]
Originally by: Skid Skahular
Originally by: Aggelos Theristes This is both new and interesting.
Thank you Aggelos for your support and interest.
He was making fun of you. But thanks for having the laugh of the day! Sorry for mentioning the obvious. ^^ |
 Robert Caldera |
Posted - 2010.10.05 10:31:00 - [ 26]
yes, remove instant local and replace it with something more pvp friendly. 0.0 careless carebearing must stop. |
 Khanaris Asgarth Eternium Industries |
Posted - 2010.10.05 10:46:00 - [ 27]
Instead of removing it make it take 5 -10 minutes to register someone entering the system. This would mean that someone looking for a fight could get the chance of springing a surprise attack. Plus will mean if a group really wants to be safe. Get sentries on the gates as an early warning. |
 MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar |
Posted - 2010.10.05 10:55:00 - [ 28]
To the OP,
Yes, a miner or ratter that pays attention to his surroundings is exactly the same as a cloaker that doesn't have to pay attention, right?
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 vulnevia The Exploited. |
Posted - 2010.10.05 11:11:00 - [ 29]
What do you want? Do you want to mine in peace, do you want to scare off miners or do you just wanna whine?
Find a WH to live in; there's no local in there. |
 Spurty Caldari V0LTA VOLTA Corp |
Posted - 2010.10.05 11:16:00 - [ 30]
hows about you form up a fleet and, i dunno, defend the sausages from the cloaked red dog?
idea? novel approach to solve mystery meat attacks? counter to the local espionage ?
Would type more, but they are after me and I need to get under the bed to don tin foil hat, so I'm invisible to their sonic radars |