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Dik Gosinya
Posted - 2010.10.01 20:58:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Dik Gosinya on 01/10/2010 21:05:51
Edited by: Dik Gosinya on 01/10/2010 21:03:46
I've been gone for some time and come back to some new changes in EvE. Not alot of changes, just small ones.

One of those changes was obviously this new mission string called Air Show! - Crash & Burn. The firs objective in this mission is to collect some sort of 'arena pass' from somewhere or other and bring it back to be given in to the agent. The 2nd phase is to fly in the gallente shuttle that they give you to a random 'arena' and then spend the next 5-10 minutes watching horribly done explosions in a bloody slow ship. Having to travel to 8 beacons and each beacon is about 40km away from each other... Whoever thought of this mission type and introduced it was obviously smoking some serious stuff.

The idea of missions it to generate money/loyalty points and rewards aswell as standings. Granted this is only a lvl 1 mission that I was doing to get myself some standings with Fed Customs but one of the issues EvE has had in previous years was that missions were not very exciting. They were all the same but with different npcs at each mission. Can someone explain to me how this is meant to entertain and make mission running fun?

Keep this in mind if you are new to the game and you come to some missions, get your little frigate and have to kill frigate npcs and the occational destroyer for the first few tries. It isn't easy but it is fun. Then you get a mission where you just have to jump to a nearby system, dock... then undock and jump back... THRILLING..

Once you have finished this round trip to no where you have to get into a shuttle and just observe yourself flying in space to random beacons for almost 10 minutes. How the hell is this rewarding in any way shape or form?!

Can anyone here honestly say that this mission has improved anything to do with EvE and that it has done anything but cause the eve community to go "Oh god, not this again... boring".

edit: I just did the 3rd objective and it just gets better folks!! After flying around doing nothing in a shuttle you now have to fly back to an 'arena' and... well fly downwards for 25km in a shuttle to pick up some plonker in a pod and go back to station. This mission better end up with some amazing award for wasting my time.

Instead of actually wasting pilot's time you could just assume that he/she has already done this and skip the first 3 blasted missions. It doesn't add anything to the game to keep them in. Just makes people like me rage.

I personally dislike mission running but I need to do it at the moment. This is compounding the thought that missions are boring as sin the majority of the time.

Dik Gosinya
Posted - 2010.10.01 21:19:00 - [2]
 

Even the 5th objective is just a sodding repeat of the other but with one change... One single change..

You don't have to use a shuttle...

Who honestly thought this was a good waste of time and worth putting into the game to 'enrich' the mission running community. Flying around from point to point to watch a crude explosion.

Hell I could do that by jumping into low sec or an asteroid belt for christ sake.

Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
Posted - 2010.10.02 06:26:00 - [3]
 

the fireworks come out of corpses if that makes it any better Laughing

Von Kapiche
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.10.02 07:07:00 - [4]
 

What's that mission called where you blow up a hulk, and then a bunch of rogue Amarr BS? no bounty, no loot, no salvage, terrible LP and if you get a bit close they tear giant chunks out of your tank. And it always seems to come up when you can't really kill your standings any further...

vekol
Posted - 2010.10.02 08:08:00 - [5]
 

There's a mission, I think L1, where you have to find a doll. It's hidden somewhere in a asteroid and at the mission location there are 40 Asteroids, the doll drops from the last one mined and all give just 1 Veldspar.

Wet Ferret
Posted - 2010.10.02 12:54:00 - [6]
 

Any mission that's 4+ jumps away.

TehFailGuy
Posted - 2010.10.02 14:56:00 - [7]
 

What horrible agents are you people using? Razz

TheMahdi
Posted - 2010.10.02 15:41:00 - [8]
 

One day, there was this one mission, where my agent asked me to do unquestionable things to him.

But I was so good, he gave me a payrise.

justin666
Posted - 2010.10.02 18:09:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Von Kapiche
What's that mission called where you blow up a hulk, and then a bunch of rogue Amarr BS? no bounty, no loot, no salvage, terrible LP and if you get a bit close they tear giant chunks out of your tank. And it always seems to come up when you can't really kill your standings any further...


lol i love that mission because it can acaully kill your ship if you afk it

Dik Gosinya
Posted - 2010.10.02 20:53:00 - [10]
 

Try to stay on topic. This is a focused agression rage about how horrible this mission is and how the person who introduced it thinking that it would enrich the mission scene was a complete tard

Tektro
Posted - 2010.10.03 01:40:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Von Kapiche
What's that mission called where you blow up a hulk, and then a bunch of rogue Amarr BS? no bounty, no loot, no salvage, terrible LP and if you get a bit close they tear giant chunks out of your tank. And it always seems to come up when you can't really kill your standings any further...


Mining Misappropriation, Level 4

Lost my first my BS here, they got too close. I started reading Eve-survival after this mission. Embarassed

sabre906
Posted - 2010.10.03 03:06:00 - [12]
 

Any of the lvl4 mining missions. Takes hours in a barge, rats shoot at you, for lots and lots of worthless mission ores.

MYOB
Posted - 2010.10.03 05:30:00 - [13]
 

Lost that Bet (4 of 5) is hands down the worst mission ever. You have to go to a deadspace minefield and mine 25 roids just so a doll will drop. The best part, each roid gives you 1 veldspar.

I will forever more decline the mission, even if I have to take a standings loss.

I'd like to know what those guys at CCP were smoking when they came up with that mission and thought it was a good idea.

Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
Posted - 2010.10.03 06:11:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: MYOB
Lost that Bet (4 of 5) is hands down the worst mission ever. You have to go to a deadspace minefield and mine 25 roids just so a doll will drop. The best part, each roid gives you 1 veldspar.

I will forever more decline the mission, even if I have to take a standings loss.

I'd like to know what those guys at CCP were smoking when they came up with that mission and thought it was a good idea.


meh, just fit a bunch of miners and activate for a few seconds on each one, pop pop, pop, pop.... pop and done! shouldn't take more than 30 seconds, going to spend more time traveling

AstarothPrime
Posted - 2010.10.04 09:57:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
Originally by: MYOB
Lost that Bet (4 of 5) is hands down the worst mission ever. You have to go to a deadspace minefield and mine 25 roids just so a doll will drop. The best part, each roid gives you 1 veldspar.

I will forever more decline the mission, even if I have to take a standings loss.

I'd like to know what those guys at CCP were smoking when they came up with that mission and thought it was a good idea.


meh, just fit a bunch of miners and activate for a few seconds on each one, pop pop, pop, pop.... pop and done! shouldn't take more than 30 seconds, going to spend more time traveling



Exactly.

I.

Cairnis
Posted - 2010.10.04 12:30:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
Originally by: MYOB
Lost that Bet (4 of 5) is hands down the worst mission ever. You have to go to a deadspace minefield and mine 25 roids just so a doll will drop. The best part, each roid gives you 1 veldspar.

I will forever more decline the mission, even if I have to take a standings loss.

I'd like to know what those guys at CCP were smoking when they came up with that mission and thought it was a good idea.


meh, just fit a bunch of miners and activate for a few seconds on each one, pop pop, pop, pop.... pop and done! shouldn't take more than 30 seconds, going to spend more time traveling


^ This

it's been a good while since i've done that mission but i actually took my old mining Tormentor (good times there :D) to do it and i believe there was only 1 unit of ore per roid to my utmost dissapointment (was gonna be a mining mission runner)

cyndrogen
Posted - 2010.10.04 17:49:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: vekol
There's a mission, I think L1, where you have to find a doll. It's hidden somewhere in a asteroid and at the mission location there are 40 Asteroids, the doll drops from the last one mined and all give just 1 Veldspar.


This one is easy, you click your mining laser and deactivate it right away to remove the roid. Use a destroyer fitted with a MWD and mining lasers.

I hope you were not waiting for the entire cycle to finish that would have sucked!

I did this mission in under 5 minutes.

cyndrogen
Posted - 2010.10.04 17:52:00 - [18]
 

The worst missions are ones that hurt faction standings.
I don't get why they even have these missions when FW is out. If you really want to engage the Gallente / Minmatar if you are Amarr/Caldari it should be via FW not missions.

I wish all the faction missions were removed. I don't see any benefit in flying them and the rewards suck.

MYOB
Posted - 2010.10.04 18:09:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: cyndrogen
Originally by: vekol
There's a mission, I think L1, where you have to find a doll. It's hidden somewhere in a asteroid and at the mission location there are 40 Asteroids, the doll drops from the last one mined and all give just 1 Veldspar.


This one is easy, you click your mining laser and deactivate it right away to remove the roid. Use a destroyer fitted with a MWD and mining lasers.

I hope you were not waiting for the entire cycle to finish that would have sucked!

I did this mission in under 5 minutes.


Doh! I guess thats what I was doing wrong. I will do this mission if it comes up again. Good advice, thanks.

Cipher Jones
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.10.04 19:22:00 - [20]
 

Massive Attack. Ugh.

Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
Posted - 2010.10.05 04:40:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: cyndrogen
The worst missions are ones that hurt faction standings.
I don't get why they even have these missions when FW is out. If you really want to engage the Gallente / Minmatar if you are Amarr/Caldari it should be via FW not missions.

I wish all the faction missions were removed. I don't see any benefit in flying them and the rewards suck.


I love killing minmatars! I just hate looting all the tags

if anything I wish there were more anti faction missions

Celes Lockheart
Posted - 2010.10.05 18:12:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Tektro
Mining Misappropriation, Level 4

Lost my first my BS here, they got too close. I started reading Eve-survival after this mission. Embarassed

I don't understand how you can lost a ship on this mission since there is no scrambler, but I agree, this mission is really bad (almost no loot, no salvage, bad reward and no bounty).

IR Seriouscat
Posted - 2010.10.06 11:33:00 - [23]
 

Wildcat strike. Rogue drone harassment. Ugh. Give me mining misappropriation over these 2 all day. Doesn't help that my POS agent gives these 2 at least twice every hour.

Abaroth Charmar
Posted - 2010.10.06 11:41:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
Originally by: cyndrogen
The worst missions are ones that hurt faction standings.
I don't get why they even have these missions when FW is out. If you really want to engage the Gallente / Minmatar if you are Amarr/Caldari it should be via FW not missions.

I wish all the faction missions were removed. I don't see any benefit in flying them and the rewards suck.


I love killing minmatars! I just hate looting all the tags

if anything I wish there were more anti faction missions


QFT!

EA 1-5 gives you 70 mill in tags alone

Kill moar Gall/Min 4tw.

Jenny Hawk
State War Academy
Posted - 2010.10.06 11:46:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: cyndrogen
The worst missions are ones that hurt faction standings.
I don't get why they even have these missions when FW is out. If you really want to engage the Gallente / Minmatar if you are Amarr/Caldari it should be via FW not missions.

I wish all the faction missions were removed. I don't see any benefit in flying them and the rewards suck.

Yea well tags to get LP store items will get even more expensive to the point that it's cheaper to buy deadspace meta 12 stuff than to get LP reward meta 8-9 modules. As a matter of fact some faction stuff is already cheaper on contracts than LP + isk + tags.

But I agree, faction missions should be either optional or not start the 4 hour timer.

Abaroth Charmar
Posted - 2010.10.06 12:00:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Jenny Hawk
Originally by: cyndrogen
The worst missions are ones that hurt faction standings.
I don't get why they even have these missions when FW is out. If you really want to engage the Gallente / Minmatar if you are Amarr/Caldari it should be via FW not missions.

I wish all the faction missions were removed. I don't see any benefit in flying them and the rewards suck.

Yea well tags to get LP store items will get even more expensive to the point that it's cheaper to buy deadspace meta 12 stuff than to get LP reward meta 8-9 modules. As a matter of fact some faction stuff is already cheaper on contracts than LP + isk + tags.

But I agree, faction missions should be either optional or not start the 4 hour timer.


The best LP/Isk items don't even need tags Wink

You're better off selling the tags in Jita to fail missioners who need them.

Psychotic Maniac
Caldari
Head Shrinkers
Posted - 2010.10.06 12:09:00 - [27]
 

^you've been smokin' suppin? everyone knows certain 5 run bpc are the best and all of them require tags you foooool.

Chuckie Chuck
Posted - 2010.10.06 12:41:00 - [28]
 

LV-4 Enemies Abound

I always get to like the 5th spawn and thats about all i can take in my raven.

Cairnis
Posted - 2010.10.06 13:41:00 - [29]
 

Edited by: Cairnis on 06/10/2010 13:42:44
meh there were two L1 missions i remember quite well from when i was under a month old in the game, one was to pop a freighter (Charon that i couldnt touch the shields on) and the other was to loot a can about 30-50 km off with a BS sitting behind it (lost many a punisher to this one, IIRC i didnt tank the ship at that time)

If anyone knows the names of these two, please post them lol been wondering which ones they were and couldn't find them on Eve-Survival unless i missed something

King Rothgar
Autocannons Anonymous
Posted - 2010.10.06 14:19:00 - [30]
 

Worst one I've seen is "hidden enemy base." It's a lvl5 mission with 7 rooms, it pays 30% less than the average lvl5 and takes no less than 4x as long to complete. It's not overly difficult either, just really, really long with lots of slow boating to gates. It culminates in requiring you to blow up a station with a ton of HP, just to augment the boring and irritating factor.Mad


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