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Akara Vixen
Minmatar
Eternal Profiteers
Posted - 2010.10.02 11:51:00 - [151]
 

LOL i like how they have 12+ testers on line in Eve they normally have only 4 people on before realesing patches

this is progress by the CCP team

more testers means more problems to find and more problems found means less work we have to do trying to get you to fix them

this is a game we come here to relax grab a couple of beer from the fridge and just veggie out after a shi-t day at work

im at work now hence why im typing so much
if i type alot my boss thinks im doing work



Ay Liz
Sacred Templars
RED.OverLord
Posted - 2010.10.02 11:51:00 - [152]
 

I'm feeling adventurous today. I will pick 'Yes'. Wish me luck..

carebear one
Posted - 2010.10.02 11:52:00 - [153]
 

Hm,

readng thru this thread ... and other patch-threads also I am asking me a important question.

Are this "dont complain about ... why are you whinning"-writers all CCP-Alts? If not the implication would be very bad.

In this case the content industry has bred a generation of dumb customers buying every crab even if the idea is the 1000th time rewarmed willingly giving up there legal rights. I am also asking me where this will end. Customers just buying CD/DVD/Game without asking and throwing it away after one day playing buying it the next day another time without asking doing everything as long as there are pictures to watch.

Dreadscout
Posted - 2010.10.02 11:53:00 - [154]
 

Edited by: Dreadscout on 02/10/2010 11:54:55
but what ever, i'll think the most "flamers" ont his thread should go back to their old *** Game.
the only one who should have a right to "flame" a bit are the old ones @ EVE.
like in each game the oldest must bleed over many years again and again.

but the new ones should better keep their mind.
ccp is a great "chaos" company giving their best.
the only thing, they should stop drinking on patch-days ^^

Space Fungus
Posted - 2010.10.02 11:53:00 - [155]
 

quit *****ing ****ing and moaning, at least they keep it going. get a life

Akara Vixen
Minmatar
Eternal Profiteers
Posted - 2010.10.02 11:57:00 - [156]
 

Originally by: Constratum
Originally by: Dreadscout
Edited by: Dreadscout on 02/10/2010 11:38:01
Edited by: Dreadscout on 02/10/2010 11:36:20
Originally by: Misunderstood Genius

Sounds like this game is just pure frustration and waste of time.
My hint: cancel subscription, terminate account, leave.

But I have more the impression that we have here a lot of smart-asses eventually not able to sort their own life out but knowing how all this coding, developing etc. has to work.

Just shut up or show us how to do it better and right.


Myself is Programmer & Developer for a Gaming Company as well.
But never had Problems like CCP over 13 Years.
And their are over 10 Games over our Company, and not only 1!

But true, CCP is not as big as some Customers think.
They are like at the beginning of Blizzard's Crew.
But, ..., your poor "My hint: cancel subscription, terminate account, leave." hint is more Nooby than any other Content in this Thread.

I just said whats the best way to destroy a "good" Game.
What says this for you? I like the Game over many Years.
But i dont like what CCP does with it since the last 2 Years...
You take the Hint for your flaming Buddy.



yout? cool grammar man, god ur so cool ur a game prorammer omg like thats so amazing!!! NOT lol, dude im guessing ur probably 18, single, fat, spotty and sitting in ur mums basement drinking mountain dew, lol

the chance of you being a game programmer is very slim, also if u are a programmer as u claim then i can guess u have never worked on a MMO which has alot more difficult coding thn pakman.... stick to 2d games dude, and clean the basement out, i think the fumes of fat boy sweat are clogging ur brain


one word TROLL

carebear one
Posted - 2010.10.02 11:57:00 - [157]
 

Originally by: Space Fungus
quit *****ing ****ing and moaning, at least they keep it going. get a life



another interesting question ... do have complainers about the complaining have a life?

Phyrex legio
Posted - 2010.10.02 11:59:00 - [158]
 

Originally by: carebear one
Originally by: Space Fungus
quit *****ing ****ing and moaning, at least they keep it going. get a life



another interesting question ... do have complainers about the complaining have a life?


issent that emo 8)

Everseeker
Caldari
Northgate
Posted - 2010.10.02 12:00:00 - [159]
 

12:00 GMT and Eve is still sleeping...


Uh Oh

inza onoa
Cruentus Invicta
Posted - 2010.10.02 12:00:00 - [160]
 

Originally by: carebear one


another interesting question ... do have complainers about the complaining have a life?


They'll be probably complaining too much about it to actually experiencing having a life :)

Akara Vixen
Minmatar
Eternal Profiteers
Posted - 2010.10.02 12:01:00 - [161]
 

Originally by: Selling Slave
I didn't see anywhere in the patch notes that they fixed the issue with the market window showing the correct price. Guess that slipped their mind, an of course they will sit on their hands about fixing the issues it is causing. Then again, I don't expect CCP to care anyway, I wouldn't be half surprised if they weren't behind half the scamming that goes on, specially seeing how they find it amusing.

There is a reason this game isn't has popular as it could be, that little kids game WoW has been out for a little less time, yet has done far better with the numbers then EvE. Sad ...


i like this game it's got enough people in it too many p[eople and well it just turns into WoW where they keep making things easier and easier and if i recall alot of people have elft WoW beacuse the new expansion is ****e

carebear one
Posted - 2010.10.02 12:01:00 - [162]
 

Originally by: Phyrex legio
Originally by: carebear one
Originally by: Space Fungus
quit *****ing ****ing and moaning, at least they keep it going. get a life



another interesting question ... do have complainers about the complaining have a life?


issent that emo 8)


looks like they have not ... otherwise he wouldnt go emo

Ay Liz
Sacred Templars
RED.OverLord
Posted - 2010.10.02 12:01:00 - [163]
 

Originally by: Everseeker
12:00 GMT and Eve is still sleeping...


Uh Oh


It went up right as you posted mate.

Dreadscout
Posted - 2010.10.02 12:01:00 - [164]
 

Originally by: Constratum
yout? cool grammar man, god ur so cool ur a game prorammer omg like thats so amazing!!! NOT lol, dude im guessing ur probably 18, single, fat, spotty and sitting in ur mums basement drinking mountain dew, lol

the chance of you being a game programmer is very slim, also if u are a programmer as u claim then i can guess u have never worked on a MMO which has alot more difficult coding thn pakman.... stick to 2d games dude, and clean the basement out, i think the fumes of fat boy sweat are clogging ur brain


my grammar should not be the problem to be a Programmer.
I'm speaking Spanish, Rush, German, my english is not well... right!
But your spelling and verbalism is more than you describe me.
I'll think you are the poor 18 Years old fat Boy ****on your text thinking you are the best.
But wake up, nobody loves you ;)

I understand my work and i understand what is right/NOT!
And you are just a big "wayne" and "invalid error".
Well, speak with my Hand, the other parts of my body dont notice you anymore.

WisdomPanda
Goatriders Horde
The Scapegoats
Posted - 2010.10.02 12:01:00 - [165]
 

Originally by: Demitrios
You also seem to be forgetting 1 thing, these bugs have nothing to do with a specific platform or setup, these bugs are there no matter what you are running, pc, mac or linux.


Originally by: 1.1 Patch Notes
Mac

Resolved a crash issue related to rapidly switching between planets in planetary mode.
The mailer cache error preventing EVE mail working in the Mac client will no longer happen.
Fixed an issue with font rendering in the in-game browser.
Some graphics glitches on ATI cards have been fixed, notably the effects when the shader setting is set to high and the rendering of ship afterburners.


Yeah, cross platform has nothing to do with it. The fixes they've released for specific video cards are also no indication that different hardware can effect the game. Right on.

Originally by: Demitrios
So for me, your argument about we should expect bugs on pc games is flawed.


The problem is when you find a bug on the PC platform, and you're also developing for other platforms, a fix is never as easy as just doing the obvious. Everything has a knock on effect, making simple bugs more annoying to quash. A unified platform is FAR easier to bug test on, not just "a little" as some have implied.

As a side note; PC's are more prone to bugs, if you don't want to accept it, then don't - it doesn't rock my world. But for a fun exercise, count how many different component setups you can have in your PC to run EvE. It isn't the root of all evil, but it's something we have to live with for being modular - some times some people get screwed when others don't. For example, I've only ever crashed out 1-2 times tops, I have far more trouble with my ISP than CCP. Of course, others have had endless crash issues, so it just goes to prove the point.

The reason bugs make it through to TQ, however, is probably quite simple; Deadlines. You get a list of bugs from QA and Sisi, they get sorted by category (minor, normal, major, critical) and you work from Critical to Minor. From a deadline standpoint, only a Critical/Major bug would cause a delay, the others are considered "acceptable" to hand off to the maintenance team. Most software groups/companies do this, what only really differs is the complexity of the project and the willingness to mark more/less bugs as critical/major.

There is also the other issue that has been highlighted many times in dev blogs over the last month; The cause for certain bugs takes a lot of specific testing to find the exact spot it's falling over. Once you have that spot, you need to reproduce, refactor, repeat. When your project can take an hour just to compile and certain resources aren't available on demand (aka, player testing) it doesn't become a fast process.

Originally by: Demitrios
Also as a troll, if you did set up a mirrow image of tq in your basement, contacting ccp is one of the last things i would do, i dont like being sued ;)


The point being, Sisi is not TQ. Unless you're willing to fork out for a full scale test system, it will never be. You also would not be sued for setting up a hardware mirror, I apologise for not being specific. :)

We all want the same thing in the end; EvE to work so we can kill each other in game.
(Or to help keep the roid population under control, if you're that way inclined.)

Space Fungus
Posted - 2010.10.02 12:02:00 - [166]
 

bullseye !!

Painbunny
Posted - 2010.10.02 12:05:00 - [167]
 

Server = ONLINE!

Stop flaming ^^

Narisa Bithon
Caldari
The Motley Crew Reborn
Posted - 2010.10.02 12:06:00 - [168]
 

Edited by: Narisa Bithon on 02/10/2010 12:07:16
edit: oh there it is

B0B Auer
Posted - 2010.10.02 12:06:00 - [169]
 

Edited by: B0B Auer on 02/10/2010 12:10:05
at least the patch seems to not crash the client and my windows are all at the right size and if you have problems with the wrong values in wallet or market, just adjust the size of that rowVery Happy

Stacey Sin
Posted - 2010.10.02 12:06:00 - [170]
 

I just want to say this to all ppl there who say I shouldn't care I'm losing ISK due to faulty patch: send me 10-20mil, that will even it out. If you think that's not noteworthy amount, prove it ;)

If you say I shouldn't care I can't use game time I paid for, contract me PLEX for free (or send ~350mil isk as that's it's price now afair). That way you'll have my promise I'll ignore 30 days of unplayable / buggy state per PLEX ;) When it's my money, I have right to expect things to, well... work.

(yep, I'm alt :P )

Constratum
Posted - 2010.10.02 12:08:00 - [171]
 

Originally by: Dreadscout
Originally by: Constratum
yout? cool grammar man, god ur so cool ur a game prorammer omg like thats so amazing!!! NOT lol, dude im guessing ur probably 18, single, fat, spotty and sitting in ur mums basement drinking mountain dew, lol

the chance of you being a game programmer is very slim, also if u are a programmer as u claim then i can guess u have never worked on a MMO which has alot more difficult coding thn pakman.... stick to 2d games dude, and clean the basement out, i think the fumes of fat boy sweat are clogging ur brain


my grammar should not be the problem to be a Programmer.
I'm speaking Spanish, Rush, German, my english is not well... right!
But your spelling and verbalism is more than you describe me.
I'll think you are the poor 18 Years old fat Boy ****on your text thinking you are the best.
But wake up, nobody loves you ;)

I understand my work and i understand what is right/NOT!
And you are just a big "wayne" and "invalid error".
Well, speak with my Hand, the other parts of my body dont notice you anymore.


lol you must be gay "speak with the hand" yeh cos ur mouth is sucking **** XD, and if u want to get clever, for ur hand to speak to me it would require your brain to point the hand in my direction, so infact your brain, your eyes to co-ordinate where i am, and your hand are noticing me, try again buddy, your not doing very well

Nathan Jameson
Talocan Vanguard
Talocan United
Posted - 2010.10.02 12:08:00 - [172]
 

Edited by: Nathan Jameson on 02/10/2010 12:11:38
Originally by: Dreadscout
Originally by: Constratum
yout? cool grammar man, god ur so cool ur a game prorammer omg like thats so amazing!!! NOT lol, dude im guessing ur probably 18, single, fat, spotty and sitting in ur mums basement drinking mountain dew, lol

the chance of you being a game programmer is very slim, also if u are a programmer as u claim then i can guess u have never worked on a MMO which has alot more difficult coding thn pakman.... stick to 2d games dude, and clean the basement out, i think the fumes of fat boy sweat are clogging ur brain


my grammar should not be the problem to be a Programmer.
I'm speaking Spanish, Rush, German, my english is not well... right!
But your spelling and verbalism is more than you describe me.
I'll think you are the poor 18 Years old fat Boy ****on your text thinking you are the best.
But wake up, nobody loves you ;)

I understand my work and i understand what is right/NOT!
And you are just a big "wayne" and "invalid error".
Well, speak with my Hand, the other parts of my body dont notice you anymore.


FLAWLESS VICTORY!

You, sir, win the interwebs.

@Constratum: Your comebacks fail almost as much as your corp thefts do.

Dreadscout
Posted - 2010.10.02 12:11:00 - [173]
 

Originally by: Constratum
and if u want to get clever, for ur hand to speak to me it would require your brain to point the hand in my direction, so infact your brain, your eyes to co-ordinate where i am, and your hand are noticing me, try again buddy, your not doing very well


Your Logic is fantastic.
Buy a "Logic" Skillbook or take some lessons with me.
I'll show you how passive it's possible that you feel my hand without watching at you.

And the second thing, did i say i hold my hand in front of you? NO!
You must search my Hand if you wanna speak to here.
So go to Body-Middle and search a bit, it's a Region where you should be.

Nutty Grandad
Posted - 2010.10.02 12:11:00 - [174]
 

To summarize all the aforegoing posts...

It all boils down to this...Consumer Rights!
If you PAY for something, whether it is a vehicle, a household item OR time on an official game online...YOU have the RIGHT to have it in PERFECT WORKING ORDER! If you are playing Lineage or WoW on a private server for free, then you do not have this right and need to accept all the bugs that go with it, but when you PAY you have the right to it working 100%.

This is WHY people moan! Many people do not have lots of money to waste and work hard for what they have...so when you consider the amount of money game developers make, it is NOT too much to expect that they work hard and deliver something that works perfectly! So... all of you who complain about the complainers...please think twice! It is their RIGHT to complain...like it or not!

Nutty Grandad
(And yes I am)



Constratum
Posted - 2010.10.02 12:13:00 - [175]
 

Originally by: Dreadscout
Originally by: Constratum
and if u want to get clever, for ur hand to speak to me it would require your brain to point the hand in my direction, so infact your brain, your eyes to co-ordinate where i am, and your hand are noticing me, try again buddy, your not doing very well


Your Logic is fantastic.
Buy a "Logic" Skillbook or take some lessons with me.
I'll show you how passive it's possible that you feel my hand without watching at you.

And the second thing, did i say i hold my hand in front of you? NO!
You must search my Hand if you wanna speak to here.
So go to Body-Middle and search a bit, it's a Region where you should be.


why cos u'll be ****ing again? LOL cant find urself a girl m8? XD unlcky dude, keep trying,

and as for the other guy, yes, rage cos i robbed you, rage hard

danyalsun
Posted - 2010.10.02 12:13:00 - [176]
 

Originally by: Constratum

lol you must be gay "speak with the hand" yeh cos ur mouth is sucking **** XD, and if u want to get clever, for ur hand to speak to me it would require your brain to point the hand in my direction, so infact your brain, your eyes to co-ordinate where i am, and your hand are noticing me, try again buddy, your not doing very well



lol.

So you are bagging someone out over their grammar... when you can't even write "you" and "your"? Stop making a fool of yourself.

Ninglegmardok
Gallente
Posted - 2010.10.02 12:13:00 - [177]
 

Ok, still experiencing problems when stacking anything with my overview window. Swiching back to overview as soon as i hover mouse over any object in space. Making it nearly impossible to use.

DestinyCalling
Posted - 2010.10.02 12:13:00 - [178]
 

FFS I installed the patch to fix the problems with the windows and I now have the bugs that I didn't have before!

Now got duplicates in my overview, didn't have that before the optional patch!

get it sorted

Drycronus
STR8NGE BREW
Posted - 2010.10.02 12:14:00 - [179]
 

Originally by: ThE AthEiiSt
CCP; Can't Code Properly.

Sums this thread up, basically :)


^ This ^

PDJames
Posted - 2010.10.02 12:15:00 - [180]
 

Auto-patching doesn't work for me. Is there any way to get this patch manually?


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