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Aelana Anais
Gallente
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
Posted - 2010.10.01 19:16:00 - [571]
 

Originally by: CCP Navigator
There has been an announcement made about an optional patch for Tyrannis 1.1 which will be applied tomorrow. You can read about it in the OP of this thread, in EVE General Discussion and in the Player News Center.

Fixed that bad link for you. Zymurgist


There is a bug in this link to the announcement... The first link leads to an access denied page as it is attempting to moderate something, the second link leads to a thread instead of a forum :p

Bugs within bug announcements ;)

ZMAG0
Posted - 2010.10.01 19:17:00 - [572]
 

Edited by: ZMAG0 on 01/10/2010 19:26:19
when modifying prices on market orders, there is an obsolete empty space behind the 2 decimal spaces that has to be deleted each time i have to change a price, its annoying and should be removed ( imagine the ***.01 price-war )

also ... Scanner; when i scan again using directional scanner, the results are displayed again but it gets scrolled back to the results i was looking previously and not to top as we were used to, is that a 'new feature'?

Srialia
Misfit Toys
Posted - 2010.10.01 19:17:00 - [573]
 

This patch is a perfect, beautiful small-scale illustration of exactly what is wrong with CCP's development process. It doesn't really matter how big the game is or how much testing you actually do (which I'm sure is quite a bit), you aren't doing enough testing. I know I'm talking to a wall, since this has been obvious for at least the last year and CCP's response has essentially been "customers just don't understand how game design works."

Kel'Taran
Posted - 2010.10.01 19:26:00 - [574]
 

Realy CCP? All these client issues and they weren't detected on SISI, come on. There is absolutely no reason for this especially when the client we have been testing on sisi had none of these issues.

Cpt Fabio
Posted - 2010.10.01 19:27:00 - [575]
 

2 missile launchers stopped working while i was in combat just like that for no reason not fun and the ships probes scanner dosent work either.

Thesis Wo
Posted - 2010.10.01 19:27:00 - [576]
 

Edited by: Thesis Wo on 01/10/2010 19:28:27
Originally by: Srialia
This patch is a perfect, beautiful small-scale illustration of exactly what is wrong with CCP's development process. It doesn't really matter how big the game is or how much testing you actually do (which I'm sure is quite a bit), you aren't doing enough testing. I know I'm talking to a wall, since this has been obvious for at least the last year and CCP's response has essentially been "customers just don't understand how game design works."


I wouldn't be so harsh. I am a developer by profession so I really know what's "This release IS GOING TOMORROW ANYWAY". Any good programmer who really likes his job wants his code to be a piece of art - perfectly readable, extensible, with no need of refactoring. Then a high manager (mostly a man who can't distinguish Ctrl from Shift) comes along and sets release date from the very ceiling. And here we have it. Dear CCP high management! Programming isn't some sort of sausage production!

I personally like the way Blizzard does it. They can hold new patch/addon/game for a while just to fix as many bugs and troubles as they can!

Filitia
Posted - 2010.10.01 19:39:00 - [577]
 

Edited by: Filitia on 01/10/2010 19:40:00
I feel so sry, if it is stil postet.

I cant link my current ship fitting from the fitting menü via drag & drop into chat.


-Fili

Torineal
Posted - 2010.10.01 19:41:00 - [578]
 

Edited by: Torineal on 01/10/2010 19:43:36
Considering how much this last patch broke, you'd think there would be news on the main page about it or this "optional patch" coming

How many new players does eve get everyday? Probably over 100. How many do you think are going to keep playing when their only experience in EVE is a broken interface that won't save window positions or size.

Pathetic.

Maybe you shouldn't be developing 2 other games if you can't even provide a decent patch to the one that's made your company what it is today, and is your only source of income since it's your only released game. You loose your eve players you loose everything.

If you can't handle a small patch for EVE, then it's time to scratch DUST and WOD.

Arkady Sadik
Minmatar
Electus Matari
Posted - 2010.10.01 19:44:00 - [579]
 

On "transfer corp cash", the amount box is prefilled with "0.10", but only the "0.1" part is selected, so when you enter "100", the input box actually contains "1000", which leads to easy mistakes in ISK transfers.

Steijn
Minmatar
Quay Industries
Posted - 2010.10.01 19:48:00 - [580]
 

Originally by: CCP Navigator
There has been an announcement made about an optional patch for Tyrannis 1.1 which will be applied tomorrow. You can read about it in the OP of this thread, in EVE General Discussion and in the Player News Center.

Fixed that bad link for you. Zymurgist


Without meaning to sound like im taking the p*ss, has this optional patch been tested sufficiently today to know that it isnt going to screw anything else up for those that apply it?

Vince Autmori
Posted - 2010.10.01 19:53:00 - [581]
 

Issue with the high slots. When mouse-clicking the weapons, all empty slots suddenly appear. Then one of the high slots does not respond to mouse-click anymore. Weapon must be activated by F-key.

Overview suddenly opens over whole page and can't be made smaller. Only after docking and un-docking again, overview looks normal again.

Different problems with the Fleet overview. Whole overview disappears, then only the member names disappear.

On the bright side, the shorter survey times on the planets.

Srialia
Misfit Toys
Posted - 2010.10.01 19:56:00 - [582]
 

Originally by: Thesis Wo

I wouldn't be so harsh. I am a developer by profession so I really know what's "This release IS GOING TOMORROW ANYWAY". Any good programmer who really likes his job wants his code to be a piece of art - perfectly readable, extensible, with no need of refactoring. Then a high manager (mostly a man who can't distinguish Ctrl from Shift) comes along and sets release date from the very ceiling. And here we have it. Dear CCP high management! Programming isn't some sort of sausage production!


Yes, this is why I'm complaining about the development process, something not always under the control of the developers themselves. Though in this case one has to wonder if they even loaded this build onto the test server before going live with it.

Originally by: Steijn
Without meaning to sound like im taking the p*ss, has this optional patch been tested sufficiently today to know that it isnt going to screw anything else up for those that apply it?


My thoughts exactly. I have very little faith that they aren't going to introduce something else that makes the game less fun.

Finanche
Minmatar
Salus Novus
United Front Alliance
Posted - 2010.10.01 20:03:00 - [583]
 

Edited by: Finanche on 01/10/2010 20:05:38
Thanks for the 'Optional' patch. I smell Tyrannis 1.0 repackage soup ;) I love the optional part tho. Option 1 - play a broke version & Option 2 - play the fixed one. mhmm - xox CCP. you need all the hugss n kisses you can get. ;)

Prime
Posted - 2010.10.01 20:07:00 - [584]
 

your 800mm x 8 t2 autocannon hits Tyranis patch 1.1 - WRECKING for 94709309385 damage.

optional 1.1 patch tomorrow DOES NOT address client stability!!1 wtf?
eve is UNPLAYABLE with random client crashes
rollback now or risk loosing many players, i mean this in sincere hope that you will listen, and FYI, whoever was the manager in charge of releasing tyranis 1.1 to production should be reprimanded, seriously.

IT IS NOT PRODUCTION READY, back to SISI 4 u! kthx bye

Prime
Beta testing eve since 2002™

WaywardWizard
Posted - 2010.10.01 20:07:00 - [585]
 

20 pages of people moaning about this patch and how it broke their game, damn your lucky i'm still trying to get past the downloading of bulk data 5/46 without the client resetting itself.

Morar Santee
Posted - 2010.10.01 20:13:00 - [586]
 

Edited by: Morar Santee on 01/10/2010 20:30:45
- Progress bar on partially trained skills (except the one currently in training) was deleted on my character.

- When resizing windows, the "snap" function is no longer displayed. When moving the window it is displayed, but not when resizing. So you never know if it will actually work as intended.

SkinSin
Posted - 2010.10.01 20:19:00 - [587]
 

Haven't read the whole thread, I have 2 issues:

1) No progress bar shown for partially trained skills in char sheet or skill planner, but putting the skill in the queue shows progress hasn't been lost.

2) Stacked char sheet and skill planner, remove skill in training, add a new one, press apply --> focus switches to character sheet and char sheet window contents jump 30 pixels (ish) to th left while the window border stays where it is.

Will log these when I have time to update drivers and investigate.

Ivanna Nuke
Gallente
Holders Of The Cowbell
Posted - 2010.10.01 20:37:00 - [588]
 

The only option guys is to remove your subscriptions and leave EvE for a while, go play something else for a while and let CCP know with your cash.

Whining here means nothing, as your account is still listed as being billed.

Prime
Posted - 2010.10.01 20:37:00 - [589]
 

Dear CCP,

as a beta tester from 2002, you really need to take this SERIOUSLY.

Here is my offical protest, in the strongest pictoral form I know,
this should hopefully get some serious action by senior management.

1.1 optional patch is NOT ENOUGH, the client is crashing randomly.
I run a super clean XP with 100% upto date drivers.

I'm glad your drop down box on cancelation includes the option I selected. Good luck.

Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.

Ivanna Nuke
Gallente
Holders Of The Cowbell
Posted - 2010.10.01 20:44:00 - [590]
 

Originally by: Prime
Dear CCP,

as a beta tester from 2002, you really need to take this SERIOUSLY.

Here is my offical protest, in the strongest pictoral form I know,
this should hopefully get some serious action by senior management.

1.1 optional patch is NOT ENOUGH, the client is crashing randomly.
I run a super clean XP with 100% upto date drivers.

I'm glad your drop down box on cancelation includes the option I selected. Good luck.

Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.



*applauds*

THIS is how you ensure they listen.YARRRR!!ExclamationCool

flummox
Posted - 2010.10.01 20:46:00 - [591]
 

Error sound plays when you click "install job" button on the science/manufacturing window.

primordial ghost
Posted - 2010.10.01 20:48:00 - [592]
 

rockets still suck

Drunken Amarr
Posted - 2010.10.01 20:58:00 - [593]
 

There is no way I could possibly read all 20 pages so I am sorry if that was reported erlier:

1. When fleet window is stacked with overview window pointing any member of fleet causes overview window to move to top ( swiching tabs ) resulting in being unable to use fleet window. This happens no matter if windows are pinned together or not.

2. On-board directional scanner used to scroll scan list back to top after each scan. It doesn't do it any more. Is that intentional?

Arkady Sadik
Minmatar
Electus Matari
Posted - 2010.10.01 21:17:00 - [594]
 

Continued lines in chat windows are not indented anymore.

E.g. it used to be:


Some Name > Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur
adipisicing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt


It's now:


Some Name > Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur
adipisicing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt


The former is much easier to read, and conventional from other chat mediums like IRC.

Rasz Lin
Caldari
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
Posted - 2010.10.01 21:20:00 - [595]
 

Edited by: Rasz Lin on 01/10/2010 21:24:00
Originally by: Drunken Amarr

2. On-board directional scanner used to scroll scan list back to top after each scan. It doesn't do it any more. Is that intentional?


Dont worry, wallet update scrolls Assets list back to the top so it evens out :/


BTW just had the overview stuck bug, but with assets window, could resize, but couldnt close/move it

Psynaps
Posted - 2010.10.01 21:22:00 - [596]
 

I have also noticed one other issue not listed on the main post.

There is now severe lag when messing with your skill training queue and when you hit apply it will close the window.

Rasz Lin
Caldari
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
Posted - 2010.10.01 21:35:00 - [597]
 

Originally by: Psynaps
I have also noticed one other issue not listed on the main post.

There is now severe lag when messing with your skill training queue and when you hit apply it will close the window.


confirm, I used to be able to click 3 times at normal speed in a row on a skill category tab and it would reliably open/close/open, now it takes over a second for the tab to open so fast browsing is out of the question.

soin a word UI speed REGRESSION.

KChop
Posted - 2010.10.01 21:37:00 - [598]
 

I have not had problems after updating with my Windows 7 and Vista Machines, however on my Mac Machines after downloading the patch, I can not patch, OS X keeps saying that the files have been modified please remove and reinstall the client. Why should I have to re-download the massive game file and reinstall again? This is confusing to me, please help, I've installed patches before on the Mac's and never had a problem.

Rasz Lin
Caldari
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
Posted - 2010.10.01 21:41:00 - [599]
 

btw MAP is still not fixed

I can see "you are here" in TWO different places on the map :/

But map, and overall 3d, rendering seems to be improved, feels somewhat more fluid .... until UI code does something like updating the wallet, then FPS goes down the toiled for one second and its **** again.

khalsou
Posted - 2010.10.01 21:52:00 - [600]
 

Edited by: khalsou on 01/10/2010 21:58:13
Originally by: CCP Navigator
There has been an announcement made about an optional patch for Tyrannis 1.1 which will be applied tomorrow. You can read about it in the OP of this thread, in EVE General Discussion and in the Player News Center.




With all due respect I read the patch and in my opinion some problems are gonna be fixed but I see none about the stacked windows problems and resizing problems there is.
suggested to remove the previous patch is not such a bad idea, maybe you can test it in your beta area to address the issues before CCP is is dropping it into the game.


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