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ChaosPlague
Posted - 2010.09.30 15:31:00 - [361]
 

Just trying to see what time it is so I can get on and check my skills..

Corvus Dove
Caldari
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas.
Posted - 2010.09.30 15:33:00 - [362]
 

Originally by: Aylana Emberlust

in-fact i think they was talking about you keeping your attributes you earned and giving you all the SP you spent in the lerning skills to spend on other things so you don't lose anything


I have to say I don't disagree with this. It basically sets everyone's learning skills to 5 and hands everyone tons of SP that trained them. I could skill up an entire racial tier of ships with that.

The downside would be the skillramping you'd see happen for newer players. Seeing a "newbie alt" in system might actually be as dangerous on its own as wondering if it's gonna pop a cyno.

Dovlar
Posted - 2010.09.30 15:33:00 - [363]
 

Originally by: Mina Gass
Edited by: Mina Gass on 30/09/2010 15:27:07
Originally by: Mina Gass

From EULA:
12. NO WARRANTIES

The Software, System, Game and all Game Content, and all other services and material provided in connection therewith, are provided "AS IS," with all faults, and without warranty of any kind. You assume all risk of use and all risk associated with accessing the System and playing the Game.

CCP disclaims all warranties, whether express or implied, including without limitation the warranties of merchantability, fitness for particular purpose and non-infringement. There is no warranty against interference with your enjoyment of the Game. CCP does not warrant that the operation of the System or your access to the System, or that your use of the Software, will be uninterrupted or error-free, nor that the System or Software will be compatible with your hardware and software.

While CCP attempts to have the System available at most times, CCP does not guarantee that the System will always be available, or that the System will not become unavailable during Game play. The System may become unavailable for a number of reasons, including without limitation during the performance of maintenance to the System, for the implementation of new software, for emergency situations and due to equipment or telecommunications failures.


So if they give anything, they are just being nice.


Originally by: Amun Khonsu
Again, it doesnt apply just because they say it. There is consumer laws in the countries where their customers purchase their product (ongoing service) they have to conform to. Thats why they gave you the 100,000 SP the last time.

Wrong. EULA is a contract which we all have accepted and "signed". I know what you are trying to say, but you can't take CCP to court on this. They will just show to the EULA which you have accepted and that will be that no matter what local country law might say.


wrong, contract is considered invalid if it is in conflict with law
or can I make and sign contract with hitman to do my ex YARRRR!!

Mina Gass
Posted - 2010.09.30 15:33:00 - [364]
 

Originally by: captcommunic

Originally by: Amun Khonsu
Again, it doesnt apply just because they say it. There is consumer laws in the countries where their customers purchase their product (ongoing service) they have to conform to. Thats why they gave you the 100,000 SP the last time.

Wrong. EULA is a contract which we all have accepted and "signed". I know what you are trying to say, but you can't take CCP to court on this. They will just show to the EULA which you have accepted and that will be that no matter what local country law might say.


Shut up, no one cares buddy.


I don't care that no one cares. It is still the truth.

TwitchyB
Jian Products Engineering Group
Atlas.
Posted - 2010.09.30 15:34:00 - [365]
 

Twitchyb sits back and watches everyones bitterness grow exponentially on the y-axis as time progresses on the X.

Twitchyb chuckles to himself and decides to take the dog for a walk.... Very Happy

Akara Vixen
Minmatar
Eternal Profiteers
Posted - 2010.09.30 15:34:00 - [366]
 


Mooie Wetenschap
Posted - 2010.09.30 15:34:00 - [367]
 

Originally by: Tereliss Verr
Ok guys it's times like these we need humor

Clear Skies

For those of you that haven't seen this EvE epic enjoy, for those of you that have relive the joy


i havent~ thanx, seems the best alternative to actually playing right now \o

Dariah Stardweller
Gallente
NO U111 Enterprises
Posted - 2010.09.30 15:35:00 - [368]
 

Originally by: Aylana Emberlust


look if you wanna play the game you play it on there terms if you start throwing your countrys laws about they will simply disconnect your country from the servers and you will NEVER get to play so STFU and deal with it


They would prolly do that yeah, still, saying that EULA nullifies local laws is just plain wrong.

It's never the downtime itself that ****es me off btw, it's the fact that they seem completely incapable of predicting how long the downtime will take, if you have to extend your deadline again and again during the day, you're not doing it right.

Best to overshoot with your guess and have happy faces when it turns out to be shorter than the constant dissapointment when I find out it has been extended yet again...

Amun Khonsu
Royal Order of Security Specialists
Posted - 2010.09.30 15:35:00 - [369]
 

Originally by: Mina Gass
Originally by: captcommunic

Originally by: Amun Khonsu
Again, it doesnt apply just because they say it. There is consumer laws in the countries where their customers purchase their product (ongoing service) they have to conform to. Thats why they gave you the 100,000 SP the last time.

Wrong. EULA is a contract which we all have accepted and "signed". I know what you are trying to say, but you can't take CCP to court on this. They will just show to the EULA which you have accepted and that will be that no matter what local country law might say.


Shut up, no one cares buddy.


I don't care that no one cares. It is still the truth.


Ignorance is bliss. Rolling Eyes

WormHoletester
Posted - 2010.09.30 15:36:00 - [370]
 

Originally by: TwitchyB
Twitchyb sits back and watches everyones bitterness grow exponentially on the y-axis as time progresses on the X.

Twitchyb chuckles to himself and decides to take the dog for a walk.... Very Happy

twitchyb, doesnt have a dog... the plot thickens.

Alessa Atreides
Posted - 2010.09.30 15:37:00 - [371]
 

You're wrong! Shut up! Aughhhhhhh!!!! RAGEQUIT!!!! ok. Back to rl for another hour.

Hakaru Ishiwara
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2010.09.30 15:37:00 - [372]
 

Originally by: Patch Notes
Features

  • The backend of the EVE User Interface has been refactored to allow for faster development and ease of programming. Because of this some UI settings, such as stacked windows, may not be preserved after the patching process.

  • Cluster memory usage for the Planetary Interaction feature has been on the increase since the launch of Tyrannis earlier this year. A number of optimizations have been included to ensure the feature’s memory footprint remains a dainty flutter for years to come and for the betterment of Tranquility’s health. Planetary Interaction gameplay remains unchanged.


Only in EVE are the "features" server-side and developer-centric changes that only have the potential to negatively impact customers' user-experience upon patch deployment.

I can't even begin to imagine what bugs and behaviors these back-end UI changes have introduced to the typical user experience. CCP testers have discovered that windows may become unstacked... what else will we find?

Mina Gass
Posted - 2010.09.30 15:38:00 - [373]
 

Originally by: Dovlar

wrong, contract is considered invalid if it is in conflict with law
or can I make and sign contract with hitman to do my ex YARRRR!!

No, the contract would not be invalid but the action there in would be in violation of the law. And in such you would also be a murdere even if it was not you who killed your ex. Wink

Aylana Emberlust
Amarr
Mad Bombers
Posted - 2010.09.30 15:39:00 - [374]
 


Maul555
Amarr
Reliables Inc
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2010.09.30 15:39:00 - [375]
 

Speaking of updates... http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb84/Maul555/Evespace.jpg
Image changed to a URL - Adida

Cpt Soma
Posted - 2010.09.30 15:39:00 - [376]
 

mhm...fail patch is fail? Laughing

LIPTON ICETEA
Posted - 2010.09.30 15:40:00 - [377]
 

Originally by: Captain Megadeath
Originally by: WormHoletester

Read and educate yourself then.


1st, linkie no workie

2nd, Quote from said page "2) What british people call americans. also called yanks"

3rd, Proofs that yanks need better education.

4th, pwned Laughing


lmao i creid and peed
ugh

elegance refined
Posted - 2010.09.30 15:40:00 - [378]
 

And cpp continues to count their dollars , as the lemmings on the forums continue to prove the lack of fortitude to effect change .....

mwahahaha they must think , these people continue to attack each other with fail shot's instead of seeing whats in front of thier faces


ugh

Dovlar
Posted - 2010.09.30 15:40:00 - [379]
 

Originally by: Mina Gass
Originally by: Dovlar

wrong, contract is considered invalid if it is in conflict with law
or can I make and sign contract with hitman to do my ex YARRRR!!

No, the contract would not be invalid but the action there in would be in violation of the law. And in such you would also be a murdere even if it was not you who killed your ex. Wink


does that mean that I will still be obliged to pay for hitman service if he ll put me to court asking for his money as we agreed in contract

Mina Gass
Posted - 2010.09.30 15:41:00 - [380]
 

Originally by: Amun Khonsu

Ignorance is bliss. Rolling Eyes


That it is Laughing

Rooben Hrothgarson
Caldari
Kare Bear Skavengers
Posted - 2010.09.30 15:41:00 - [381]
 

Originally by: DANTES666
Originally by: Dovlar
When iz 1730 UTC in Europe

18.30 in west-central europe, 19,30h romania,grecce... 20,30h russia...


19.30 - counting DTS - so for Central Europe (Copenhagen - Bratislava)UTC +2hrs

Ivanna Nuke
Gallente
Holders Of The Cowbell
Posted - 2010.09.30 15:41:00 - [382]
 

So long as Chuck Norris makes a dancing flamingo cry pure potatoes.


TwitchyB
Jian Products Engineering Group
Atlas.
Posted - 2010.09.30 15:42:00 - [383]
 

Originally by: Corvus Dove
Originally by: Aylana Emberlust

in-fact i think they was talking about you keeping your attributes you earned and giving you all the SP you spent in the lerning skills to spend on other things so you don't lose anything


I have to say I don't disagree with this. It basically sets everyone's learning skills to 5 and hands everyone tons of SP that trained them. I could skill up an entire racial tier of ships with that.

The downside would be the skillramping you'd see happen for newer players. Seeing a "newbie alt" in system might actually be as dangerous on its own as wondering if it's gonna pop a cyno.


Well thats not such a bad thing really. Remembering back to when i was a new player in a big bad world where some guy 3 years older would just come along and wipe out my poorly fit little frigate..... seems a boost might get these first timers to stick around. Plus side of that? more targets making the same silly mistakes. Great for the killboard stats Very Happy

Aylana Emberlust
Amarr
Mad Bombers
Posted - 2010.09.30 15:42:00 - [384]
 


Lex Avril
Posted - 2010.09.30 15:42:00 - [385]
 

love those bittersweet tears here, it's even better than the last hulkageddon. and, surprise, surprise: "we want skillpoints, free ships, money back, excuses as compensation, 'cause who could have thought, the patch wasn't in place and working in time..."
hope you guys think about last and next 50 downtimes, when ccp makes it in 20-50 mins instead of an hour.

Luna Nocturne
Posted - 2010.09.30 15:42:00 - [386]
 

Edited by: Luna Nocturne on 30/09/2010 15:46:31
Being a late returnee to EVE, I bet some of you guys can educate me on this:
Running Mac - How are patches applied? Will there be a download when you log in? (Now it´s telling me "Incompatible Version" but I recon that is due to the update not being finalized yet) Or do we have to download a patch and apply it ourself?

Edit: My build number does not correspond to any in the Patch page, namely 6.30.177290

WeirdCulture
Gallente
Posted - 2010.09.30 15:43:00 - [387]
 

C'mon guys.... is that your first patch-downtime in EvE?
I'm so surprised about the extend of the DT as I am surprised about new Year at the 1st January.

If it is your first extended downtime: Welcome to EvE-Online.


Dariah Stardweller
Gallente
NO U111 Enterprises
Posted - 2010.09.30 15:43:00 - [388]
 

Originally by: Dovlar


does that mean that I will still be obliged to pay for hitman service if he ll put me to court asking for his money as we agreed in contract


Don't think so, as the act of paying to kill someone is not legal either in most countries. It's like taking someone to court cause he stole your 10 kilo's of coke.

Brenda Smith
Posted - 2010.09.30 15:43:00 - [389]
 

HAHA I love all the moaning about downtime!

Why not:-

a) Pay some attention to your woman
b) go find a woman

or

c) find out what a woman is

or d) get a grip!

Bol Chase
Posted - 2010.09.30 15:44:00 - [390]
 

Originally by: Mina Gass
Originally by: Dovlar

wrong, contract is considered invalid if it is in conflict with law
or can I make and sign contract with hitman to do my ex YARRRR!!

No, the contract would not be invalid but the action there in would be in violation of the law. And in such you would also be a murdere even if it was not you who killed your ex. Wink


i.e you get done but could be sued by the hitman if you didn't pay :P


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