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Ardcil
Posted - 2010.09.25 05:06:00 - [1]
 

Hello EvE Players, My name is Ardcil.

I have been working In trading for some time now and finally have decided I want to expand.

I am Looking For a 1 Billion Isk Loan (1,000,000,000.00)
At A 11% rate for 1 Month.

I live in Jita And Mostly station Trade, But there will be some Movement of cargo time to time.

I would prefer this loan in 250M (250,000,000.00) Chunks From different people so that I can build reputation.

I know this sounds To good to be true, but its not, Im almost on 24/7 except for Sleep.

Please Do note though, There is always some risk for loaning isk, If I Were A scammer I could easily take your isk, And go run around jita pretending to be all Bad ass, But why would i do that, If as a scammer I could simply make over 20 Billion Isk In profits In just a short month or two.

I know there are risks, But, Sometimes Risks need to be taken.

I Am A Solid Investment for anyone with the Kind of money to get me going.


If you can Help me out and are willing to give a New player a chance, Please Make a Post Or Send Me an EvEMail Ingame.

Regards
~Ardcil.

Berikath
Posted - 2010.09.25 05:27:00 - [2]
 

There are lots of problems with this... Umm, I guess lemmie start with questions I'd have that weren't answered.

What volume have you been trading so far?
Why do you need more ISK than you can field yourself?
Are you willing to provide your API to confirm that you have, in fact, been trading in Jita?
Are you expanding into different markets than you are currently trading in?
You said there would be some kind of movement at times; where? What precautions do you plan on taking to safeguard your (the lender's) product?
If you are confident enough that you can make 20 billion ISK in a month as a scammer, why don't you get your startup capital that way? Then you'll pay 0% interest.

Your request has essentially no specifics in it. Your post gives the impression you put about 2 minutes into it, and most of the thought involved was coming up with different ways to say "trust me, I'm good for it, honest!!" People aren't just going to throw money at you because you make a post requesting it on the forum. (... yes, I do fully realize the irony of me saying this. Don't bother, trolls)

Ardcil
Posted - 2010.09.25 05:33:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Berikath
There are lots of problems with this... Umm, I guess lemmie start with questions I'd have that weren't answered.

What volume have you been trading so far?
Why do you need more ISK than you can field yourself?
Are you willing to provide your API to confirm that you have, in fact, been trading in Jita?
Are you expanding into different markets than you are currently trading in?
You said there would be some kind of movement at times; where? What precautions do you plan on taking to safeguard your (the lender's) product?
If you are confident enough that you can make 20 billion ISK in a month as a scammer, why don't you get your startup capital that way? Then you'll pay 0% interest.

Your request has essentially no specifics in it. Your post gives the impression you put about 2 minutes into it, and most of the thought involved was coming up with different ways to say "trust me, I'm good for it, honest!!" People aren't just going to throw money at you because you make a post requesting it on the forum. (... yes, I do fully realize the irony of me saying this. Don't bother, trolls)


Well, Fine

lets try to get these questions solved, shall we?

I have been Trading In A fair volume.

I need more ISK so that I can Start Trading on a Larger scale, and start Bringing in ISK By the Bucket-load.

I will Not provide an API, Its Just not going to happen, This is just a way of staying safe for myself.

Yes I am Expanding into a few New Feilds That i have not yet had The ISK To start in, But that makes a very good profit.

Movement will Be Very Short at all times if any, Mostly station-station inside of Jita.

Reason I did not Scam for 20Billion and start there, was because i am looking to gain the trust of other players, And Not Be known as a scammer, Who Is not worth the Blink of an Eye.

Hope I Helped your Questions out.


Scott McClellan
Forum Posters Anonymous
Posted - 2010.09.25 05:48:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Scott McClellan on 25/09/2010 05:49:21
Originally by: Ardcil


Well, Fine

lets try to get these questions solved, shall we?

I have been Trading In A fair volume.

I need more ISK so that I can Start Trading on a Larger scale, and start Bringing in ISK By the Bucket-load.

I will Not provide an API, Its Just not going to happen, This is just a way of staying safe for myself.



What do you have to lose? And how is giving money to you "safe" for investors?

Quote:


Reason I did not Scam for 20Billion and start there, was because i am looking to gain the trust of other players, And Not Be known as a scammer, Who Is not worth the Blink of an Eye.



With a post like this, I doubt you could get 20 billion anyway (it's not particularly a good time either). Most people (attempt to) build trust before they scam, at least the good ones. Saying you want to attain trust is therefore, seen by some as a "bad thing" to say. In all actuality though it's not much to go on.


So let's see what we have here:

-No statement of NAV
-No knowledge of how long you have been trading
-No actual proof you are trading
-Absolutely no forum history
-Unwillingness to provide API for fear it is "unsafe"


Not looking that good.

Ardcil
Posted - 2010.09.25 05:51:00 - [5]
 

Quote:
With a post like this, I doubt you could get 20 billion anyway (it's not particularly a good time either). Most people (attempt to) build trust before they scam, at least the good ones. Saying you want to attain trust is therefore, seen by some as a "bad thing" to say. In all actuality though it's not much to go on. So let's see what we have here: -No statement of NAV -No knowledge of how long you have been trading -No actual proof you are trading -Absolutely no forum history -Unwillingness to provide API for fear it is "unsafe" Not looking that good.


Eh, fine, you can be that way, I said in my original post that there was some risk, So be it. Someone who comes around will be worth my time an effort.

Minerva Vulcan
Caldari
Ctrl Alt Elites
Posted - 2010.09.25 07:49:00 - [6]
 

What is this I don't even.

Fat Uncle
Posted - 2010.09.25 09:17:00 - [7]
 

Confirming this is my ISK holding toon and all transfers should be to me. Transfer now to start earning 11% on your ISK.

Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
Posted - 2010.09.25 09:46:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 25/09/2010 09:47:12
Quote:

...Chunks From different people so that I can build reputation



Did you know that this attracts bad karma?

The first doubt it rises: "build reputation for WHAT? To step up into a medium timeframe 20B scam like many others?"

Let reputation breeze at you, actively building it is seen as a Forced and Suspicious Thing.

Edit: Proper English does not breeze at me Crying or Very sad

israus
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.09.25 09:48:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Ardcil

Eh, fine, you can be that way, I said in my original post that there was some risk, So be it. Someone who comes around will be worth my time an effort.


you know for somebody looking for public money your very hostile in your posts. and you really can't have much clue about what investors will need from you in order to invest at the very least they would want is an audit. and saying you won't scam this time because you want to build rep isn't going to have investors jumping to invest.

Nathan Jameson
Talocan Vanguard
Talocan United
Posted - 2010.09.25 10:02:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Ardcil
Originally by: Berikath
There are lots of problems with this... Umm, I guess lemmie start with questions I'd have that weren't answered.

What volume have you been trading so far?
Why do you need more ISK than you can field yourself?
Are you willing to provide your API to confirm that you have, in fact, been trading in Jita?
Are you expanding into different markets than you are currently trading in?
You said there would be some kind of movement at times; where? What precautions do you plan on taking to safeguard your (the lender's) product?
If you are confident enough that you can make 20 billion ISK in a month as a scammer, why don't you get your startup capital that way? Then you'll pay 0% interest.

Your request has essentially no specifics in it. Your post gives the impression you put about 2 minutes into it, and most of the thought involved was coming up with different ways to say "trust me, I'm good for it, honest!!" People aren't just going to throw money at you because you make a post requesting it on the forum. (... yes, I do fully realize the irony of me saying this. Don't bother, trolls)


Well, Fine

lets try to get these questions solved, shall we?

I have been Trading In A fair volume.

I need more ISK so that I can Start Trading on a Larger scale, and start Bringing in ISK By the Bucket-load.

I will Not provide an API, Its Just not going to happen, This is just a way of staying safe for myself.

Yes I am Expanding into a few New Feilds That i have not yet had The ISK To start in, But that makes a very good profit.

Movement will Be Very Short at all times if any, Mostly station-station inside of Jita.

Reason I did not Scam for 20Billion and start there, was because i am looking to gain the trust of other players, And Not Be known as a scammer, Who Is not worth the Blink of an Eye.

Hope I Helped your Questions out.




Hmm, I think that answers a grand total of: zero questions.

P.S. capitalizing Random words Inside Your sentence is The new Thing.

Fat Uncle
Posted - 2010.09.25 10:27:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Nathan Jameson
P.S. capitalizing Random words Inside Your sentence is The new Thing.


Capitals Help showing that I Mean serious Internet Business. Now Pony up the Dough!

Dr Nefarius
Posted - 2010.09.25 11:08:00 - [12]
 

This loan attempt seems to position itself just below the 'give me isk and I'll give nothing back' scam.
If you want a snowballs chance in hell of ever seeing the isk, you need to get somone trusted to get your API. Since you have already said you are only a smalltime trader, you're not likely to have any big market secrets that the big bears in here will even care about.

Berikath
Posted - 2010.09.25 13:35:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Ardcil

Well, Fine

lets try to get these questions solved, shall we?

I have been Trading In A fair volume.

I need more ISK so that I can Start Trading on a Larger scale, and start Bringing in ISK By the Bucket-load.
Without numbers, your answers are... quite frankly worthless.

Quote:
I will Not provide an API, Its Just not going to happen, This is just a way of staying safe for myself.
With this seeming... borderline at best, you're gonna have to get really, really, REALLY lucky to get any ISK at all with that answer.

Quote:
Yes I am Expanding into a few New Feilds That i have not yet had The ISK To start in, But that makes a very good profit.
numbers

Quote:
Hope I Helped your Questions out.
No you didn't. Not at all.

Ardcil
Posted - 2010.09.25 13:47:00 - [14]
 

Fat Uncle does not belong to me.

Lecherito
Posted - 2010.09.25 14:06:00 - [15]
 

You write like phish.

-L

Rykker Bow
Posted - 2010.09.25 14:50:00 - [16]
 

Good grief...at first I thought this was a joke and there may Even be a message embedded in The post. But no luck, Either the op is clueless or (hopefully) the code is too hard for me to figure out. to the op...you Need To revise your bond, make your plan more Open and come back with a better Prospectus.

Ardcil
Posted - 2010.09.25 15:09:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Rykker Bow
Good grief...at first I thought this was a joke and there may Even be a message embedded in The post. But no luck, Either the op is clueless or (hopefully) the code is too hard for me to figure out. to the op...you Need To revise your bond, make your plan more Open and come back with a better Prospectus.



Thank you.

Ardcil
Posted - 2010.09.25 15:20:00 - [18]
 

Lock her up please.

Dethmourne Silvermane
Gallente
Origin.
Black Legion.
Posted - 2010.09.26 04:23:00 - [19]
 

personally, i don't See why you guys think there's a Code or Anything in this Message.

(Hint: there's one in mine!)

Minerva Vulcan
Caldari
Ctrl Alt Elites
Posted - 2010.09.26 05:13:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Dethmourne Silvermane
personally, i don't See why you guys think there's a Code or Anything in this Message.

(Hint: there's one in mine!)


I see what you did there.

Rykker Bow
Posted - 2010.09.26 13:53:00 - [21]
 

Sad and mine? . . . with a great reply to it on post #17!

just having some fun, come on back with a decent proposal and you may have better luck op.


 

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