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Niraia
Seekers of a Silent Paradise
Posted - 2010.09.25 11:12:00 - [151]
 

Originally by: CCP Dropbear
It's still possible, despite this, for Sansha sympathisers (or local pirates, etc) to run interference. Right now though, the extent to which they can is limited in scope. If there's the time to, we'll try and broaden that.


Very disappointing, and will make me think twice about participating in future events. I asked a question here some time ago about what was being done for sympathisers of the incurring factions, but didn't receive a response. Now I know why. Thanks for communicating with your players.

Sabahl
Minmatar
The Executives
Executive Outcomes
Posted - 2010.09.25 12:23:00 - [152]
 

I am amazed that nobody else has said this yet. Reading through the blog it sounds like the team is trying to sneak a raiding system into Eve which is something I had hoped would never happen.

Che Biko
Humanitarian Communists
Posted - 2010.09.25 13:37:00 - [153]
 

Edited by: Che Biko on 25/09/2010 13:40:28
This is almost like saying "Pilots, we give you faction warfare! Oh, on a side note, we won't to be able to give you the Minmatar militia for the time being."Sad
Edit: Oh, I forgot this: ಠ_ಠ

Widemouth Deepthroat
Posted - 2010.09.25 15:16:00 - [154]
 

Go roleplay as sansha in provi or wherever you guys hang out. Nobody wants to see your cyber pirate stuff while trying to do some pve.

Naomi Wildfire
Amarr
Spricer
Raiden.
Posted - 2010.09.25 15:31:00 - [155]
 

Quote:
Think of it as a moving circus where you have to shoot the clowns. Stupid clowns. You will be able to find them in all areas of space, high sec, low sec and zero sec, with the appropriate reward multipliers depending on where it is of course.


IT alliance is going on a long time journey?

Terra Mikael
Horizon Dynamics
Posted - 2010.09.25 15:44:00 - [156]
 

Originally by: Aria Jenneth
So, the worst expansion since the last one? Funny, I've sort of been having fun with it.


Obviously planetary click-athon was a hit with the mentally challenged.Rolling Eyes

hfo ohforf
Posted - 2010.09.25 17:39:00 - [157]
 

I read it somewhere but i cant remember where. I thought it was coming in this winter expansion: the re-creation of your characters portrait (so its 3D or something).

I was wondering if we were allowed to change race as well?
Back then you had to pick race and bloodline for your attributes, not for your liking to a particular background story. Sad

My char is cald (i think) but exclusively flies minmatar; and i act for it in game (rp). If i'd were allowed to change my race; i could walk the talk. Smile

Drone 16
Posted - 2010.09.26 02:30:00 - [158]
 

Not sure if this has been posted in here yet but here is an interveiw regarding the expansion

http://www.tentonhammer.com/eve/guides/politics/interview-PAX10

CrazzyElk
Big Shadows
Initiative Mercenaries
Posted - 2010.09.26 14:40:00 - [159]
 

Edited by: CrazzyElk on 26/09/2010 14:40:55
Am I correct in assuming that Sansha space itself isnt going to get invaded?

Adrian Schultze
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2010.09.26 14:51:00 - [160]
 

As long as there are still options around to make a ship unprobeable in space while doing a mission, this idea is totally stupid. As soon as possible you will have unprobeable carebear gangs everywhere......


Katarin Savage
Gallente
azinko
Posted - 2010.09.26 16:50:00 - [161]
 

AND DONT FORGET: not everyone as an alliance or many friends they can call on to help defeat a fleet-sized battle...

I lost my best mega recently koz no one came to help me and I got blatted by just three other BS pirates, so please make sure them new 'Sleeper Ai' dont 'overkill' us for a poxy one meg reward like wot happened to me last week!!!

soem us like playing solo and I wouldnt want to see this ruin PvE for us if we get sucked into this 'new' mishon engine alone and without backup...

If fact, why cant I just buy some NPC friends to help out if we need them like we used to do in Dungeons and Dragons and all the other role-playing games of times lost forever????

guess I'd have to wait another two years b4 I get some help!!!Rolling Eyes

MrZany
Amarr
Brood of Redemption
Posted - 2010.09.26 17:35:00 - [162]
 

Originally by: Adrian Schultze
As long as there are still options around to make a ship unprobeable in space while doing a mission, this idea is totally stupid. As soon as possible you will have unprobeable carebear gangs everywhere......




Never thought I would see the day that players complain about more players in low and null-sec. More people in local means more targets that may make a costly mistake, similar to, but not exactly like, your attempt at a meaningful post. Pirate tears(?!?!)...I hope no one you know is reading this...they may revoke your eye patch ugh

Sarge Tigershark
Posted - 2010.09.26 19:56:00 - [163]
 

if they force me to join a corp to run level 4 missions and/or if they nerf the level 4 mish income and/or if i will have to travel all around systems to complete an objective for some few isk reward i ll quit eve.

Sarge Tigershark
Posted - 2010.09.26 20:19:00 - [164]
 

can someone tell me are they changing high sec agent missions ?

John McCreedy
Caldari
Eve Defence Force
Posted - 2010.09.26 22:20:00 - [165]
 

I know it's early days yet but is Incursion going to be only PvE content or will the be other cool stuff for those of us who prefer shooting real people in the face?

Zsel Gant
Amarr
Posted - 2010.09.26 23:06:00 - [166]
 

Actually, you can get some help with this problem right now.
Go play DDO if you want to play an MMO singleplayer with bots.
Now I bet he claims he was being 'Ironic'

Matalino
Posted - 2010.09.27 05:04:00 - [167]
 

Originally by: John McCreedy
I know it's early days yet but is Incursion going to be only PvE content or will the be other cool stuff for those of us who prefer shooting real people in the face?
Does a Faction mothership and fighterbomber count? Specific details are pending, but it is on the list of features.

Arriana Alterana
Posted - 2010.09.27 05:48:00 - [168]
 

Originally by: CCP Dropbear
Originally by: Che Biko
Edited by: Che Biko on 24/09/2010 19:24:43
Originally by: CCP Soundwave
There are no mechanics to take sides in currently, [..]

QuestionCan't we at least have something like NPC ships attacking Nation space in 0.0, or NPC ships attacking nation complexes and base spawns in empire, or even NPC ships fighting the Sansha ships in the same event? Players on both sides try to eliminate the other side's NPC's, or something like that?
It's not a perfect solution, but something like that would be relatively easy to implement in the meantime I guess?

It's seems a bit unfair to not be able to enjoy the purpose of this (player teaming up vs NPC) if you happen to support the Nation team.


What Soundwave means there is that there's no "opt-in" mechanics for "sides" to choose, such as you get in Faction Warfare. It's still possible, despite this, for Sansha sympathisers (or local pirates, etc) to run interference. Right now though, the extent to which they can is limited in scope. If there's the time to, we'll try and broaden that.


dropbear, I just died a little inside.
seriously dude, like, way to betray the nation folks after they put so much work in.

Hun Jakuza
We Are So Troubled Everyone Runs Screaming
Posted - 2010.09.27 06:16:00 - [169]
 

Edited by: Hun Jakuza on 27/09/2010 06:32:47
This is an another CCP lagfix or just CCP want kill the drone users play ?

More AI for NPC equal with shot drones. Less drones, less lag ?
But all NPC will using more scripts = more lag.

I hate CCP lagfixes, that's is ridicuolus, such as new local refreshing settings which they set now 1 minute delay and the players cant see instantly who got global criminal flag.

Or overview delay settings what they ruined 3 sec delay.
My favored situation, when a 4-5k speed interceptor want to catch me and the distance on overview jumping 12-15km.
Corp info came to 5 and 15 minutes delay, personal info windows too.

Windows delaying is not lagfix, just a joke.
And this changes against drone users too.

CCP please do it real lagfixes, such as more spare nods.
Now the reinforced systems needs corpmail, message etc before 1 days.
Create a new system, which the backup nods will everytime online and connected to regions and where a script controlling them and checking systems and where need more resources because too many players in those systems or regions and, just moving the backup nods instantly realtime ,there and that's will better than all windows delay tricky lagfix. Thats would be help against 400 mans's pvp playing lag, because the system moving without reinforce requesting to script controlled reinforce mode.

carebear one
Posted - 2010.09.27 07:44:00 - [170]
 

Edited by: carebear one on 27/09/2010 07:55:26
Hi,

hm this thread is going the same way like every time.

First all are happy about the new things that will (maybe) come.
Second (after the information is processed) the low sec members start to whine
Third the big whining of 0.0/PVP-Members starts

Just see it like it is. CCP wants to do something for the biggest parts of players and this is (also viewable in the quarterly business report) the high sec and PvE-Players.

PS: THANK YOU CCP FOR TAKING AWAY THE ATM MACHINES FROM 0.0-SEC
Since no one else have this in the game why should 0.0 have this

John McCreedy
Caldari
Eve Defence Force
Posted - 2010.09.27 10:07:00 - [171]
 

Originally by: Matalino
Originally by: John McCreedy
I know it's early days yet but is Incursion going to be only PvE content or will the be other cool stuff for those of us who prefer shooting real people in the face?
Does a Faction mothership and fighterbomber count? Specific details are pending, but it is on the list of features.


No, not really. A Faction Mothership will be the Eve equivalent to the Bugatti Veyron, accessible only to the super-rich, not for mere mortals who will never be able to afford one. Nor do either enhance PvP from a day to day standpoint. I'm interested more in the long promised "features" that will change blobbing to being the final stage of Sov warfare, not the be-all and end-all of it. Not all of us have PCs capable of handling large scale battles these days but that doesn't mean we should be excluded from the process. The last set of changes in it did nothing to reduce this.

Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
Posted - 2010.09.27 10:39:00 - [172]
 

Originally by: Sarge Tigershark
if they force me to join a corp to run level 4 missions and/or if they nerf the level 4 mish income and/or if i will have to travel all around systems to complete an objective for some few isk reward i ll quit eve.
can someone tell me are they changing high sec agent missions ?

If I say 'yes, they will', can I have your stuffs? can I can I?

Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
Posted - 2010.09.27 10:41:00 - [173]
 

Originally by: Katarin Savage
AND DONT FORGET: not everyone as an alliance or many friends they can call on to help defeat a fleet-sized battle...

I lost my best mega recently koz no one came to help me and I got blatted by just three other BS pirates, so please make sure them new 'Sleeper Ai' dont 'overkill' us for a poxy one meg reward like wot happened to me last week!!!

soem us like playing solo and I wouldnt want to see this ruin PvE for us if we get sucked into this 'new' mishon engine alone and without backup...

If fact, why cant I just buy some NPC friends to help out if we need them like we used to do in Dungeons and Dragons and all the other role-playing games of times lost forever????

guess I'd have to wait another two years b4 I get some help!!!Rolling Eyes

*facepalm*
You got exactly what you wanted!
You want to play solo, you have to take all the danger alone. That's what playing solo is about.. please god, let it rain some brainz.

Estimated Prophet
Ye Olde Curiosity Shoppe and Trading Company
EVE Trade Consortium
Posted - 2010.09.27 11:04:00 - [174]
 

Originally by: John McCreedy
No, not really. A Faction Mothership will be the Eve equivalent to the Bugatti Veyron, accessible only to the super-rich, not for mere mortals who will never be able to afford one.

I wonder if we'll see drops of BPCs for the other Sansha ships (Succubus, Phantasm and Nightmare) from either the main fight, or the lead-up encounters?

Isabella Thresher
Fat Kitty Inc.
Posted - 2010.09.27 13:59:00 - [175]
 

Edited by: Isabella Thresher on 27/09/2010 14:04:31
Edited by: Isabella Thresher on 27/09/2010 14:00:08
Quote:

you'll probably remember the static 10/10 complexes


Quote:

Now you may be asking yourself "why did you take them out then, stupid?" The high reward and static nature meant that you could make a lot of money every day at a pretty small effort. It was basically an ATM machine if you imagine it had a single button that said "free money" and was surrounded by neon signs reading "PLEASE COME TAKE MY MONEY."




i don't get it. those ATM machines with the FREE MONEY button still exist and they can be run alone in a t2 BS. they even respawn 2 minutes later so you can easily make hundrets of millions very fast.

you say they have been removed - when? what exactly am i missing here?

i'd really love to see anything above current 5/10 and similar anos/plexes/missions completely removed from game and replaced with pve mechanics that can *absolutely* not be done alone or with an alt. min. 4-5 players for "easy" encounters and for a "hard" encounter you should need a full fleet.

THAT would make many aspects of this game more interesting in the long term.
if the upcoming patch changes just that, then way to go, CCP. can't wait :)

Marconus Orion
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2010.09.28 08:57:00 - [176]
 

Please for the love of all that is holy, disable the background when in solar system view for this expansion!!!

Have a heart for us probers out there. Embarassed

Tester128
Fremen Sietch
DarkSide.
Posted - 2010.09.28 11:43:00 - [177]
 

removing isk printing machines like instantly respawning anomalies in sov space would be a better move.

Mynxee
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2010.09.28 12:58:00 - [178]
 

Edited by: Mynxee on 28/09/2010 13:02:06
Originally by: Tres Farmer
Can those Sansha put up cynojammers once they land in a system?


This could have very interesting consequences for POS owners and aggressors if the Sanshas have a way to cynojam low sec system--especially if the effect lasts for the duration of their presence in the system.

Originally by: CCP Dropbear
What Soundwave means there is that there's no "opt-in" mechanics for "sides" to choose, such as you get in Faction Warfare. It's still possible, despite this, for Sansha sympathisers (or local pirates, etc) to run interference. Right now though, the extent to which they can is limited in scope. If there's the time to, we'll try and broaden that.


It's a suggestion that CSM made at the June Summit when Soundwave discussed this feature with us and mentioned it was still in the "drawing board" stage. Too bad it didn't get slotted in. I would very much like to see a way for sympathizers to support the Sansha...it would make the encounters a lot more unpredictable for everyone--but especially the players who choose to oppose the invasion.


Typhado3
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.09.28 13:18:00 - [179]
 

Funny I remember seeing a thread in Features and ideas forum about something pretty damn similar to this about a week ago. I'm gonna say the same thing I said there. Dynamic is good but you risk making space bland.

Back in the old days (incoming nostalgia) systems used to feel a lot different from each other belt count was a lot more important and in some cases so was moon count (not so much now due to sov changes). Generally these changes are good things but they are destroying the (already pretty low) character of the systems we live in.

I'd say take a look at wormholes they've got plenty of character with all their different spacial phenomena. We need something like this (but something different and new) in regular space as well to counteract all the dynamic content making things bland.


"service garauntees citezenship" - Please don't make standings too big of a reward, standings don't matter much for those who are already near 10 for a faction. Though i'm sure you mean LP you'll probably include some standing in there too.

Addicted User
Posted - 2010.09.28 14:50:00 - [180]
 

Want lvl5 missions back Crying or Very sad and now 10/10 we will see, but I'm not to optimistic.


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