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Propotkin
Caldari
The Kairos Syndicate
Transmission Lost
Posted - 2010.09.23 11:14:00 - [1]
 

As the title says - according to dotlan goons n test have been attacking BCA pilots in bca space, as a member of that allinace (and at work so i cant log on atm) anybody know whats going on ? A why the attacks ?

thx peeps

Mark Hadden
Amarr
Endstati0n
Raiden.
Posted - 2010.09.23 11:24:00 - [2]
 

BFF

garfield26
Amarr
2nd Blood Raven Assault Squad
Majesta Empire
Posted - 2010.09.23 11:29:00 - [3]
 

because Goons want all of Dek... nothing else is the reason in my opinion. the BS what they say is just cover.

Cpt Underpants
Caldari
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.09.23 11:33:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Cpt Underpants on 23/09/2010 11:33:54
Just love how Kugu is a banned word on the forums.

u mad garfield?

garfield26
Amarr
2nd Blood Raven Assault Squad
Majesta Empire
Posted - 2010.09.23 11:36:00 - [5]
 

no,why should i be? i only think that there was a beter way to do this.. but u guys know

Verys
Caldari
I Heart Chaos
Posted - 2010.09.23 11:39:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: garfield26
because Goons want all of Dek... nothing else is the reason in my opinion. the BS what they say is just cover.


Hidden agenda's in my eve? You don't say...

Halor Glaw
Amarr
Sacred Templars
RED.OverLord
Posted - 2010.09.23 12:00:00 - [7]
 

what does it matter why they attack??
just keeel them (or be keeled by them :p)

Doctor Ungabungas
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.09.23 12:12:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: garfield26
because Goons want all of Dek... nothing else is the reason in my opinion. the BS what they say is just cover.


We want it so bad we were going to give you two more systems. Cool

Gixxer 1000
Caldari
Ceptacemia
Unforgiving.
Posted - 2010.09.23 12:26:00 - [9]
 

Is waiting for a reset announcement from MM and Razor to Goons. Gets beer, beef jerky, and cheeto's.

Lord TGR
Minmatar
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.09.23 12:45:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: garfield26
because Goons want all of Dek... nothing else is the reason in my opinion. the BS what they say is just cover.


*contacts mittani*
*asks for 2 systems for "breathing space*
*gets offer for systems elsewhere in deklein*
*also gets offer for upgrading the 2 aforementioned systems*
*tells own members "we're never getting any other systems, ever"*
*gets alliance killed*
*blames the evil goonies*
*is Numenor Balmenor*

Samantha Kensington
Gallente
Rhane's Research and Development Labs.
Posted - 2010.09.23 12:59:00 - [11]
 



*looks at BCA alliance*
*notices refinery is in Goonswarm hands*

well your dead.

I was hoping you'd survive up there, or at least until you dropped a few factory outposts and 'then' watch Goons take you out.

But then I noticed you upgraded your refinery to 45% for whatever reason.

......

People go read science and Industry forum, anything above 40% is a waste.... come on... For the cost of that upgrade you could have had 75% of a second outpost egg.

Initiative. please take note, no more 45% refineries please....

Gnulpie
Minmatar
Miner Tech
Posted - 2010.09.23 13:27:00 - [12]
 

Looks like you sided with the wrong guys Laughing

Murauke
Caldari
EvE Cookie Collective
Posted - 2010.09.23 13:47:00 - [13]
 

Hey prop - sorry to see Goons screwed you. In all honesty I think they were looking for any excuse to evict you.

good look with the evac - word of advice to Own... Get your **** safe too, watch your back True.

Dr Cheeto
Minmatar
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2010.09.23 14:58:00 - [14]
 

via Mittens:

Quote:
bca proposal
From: Numenor Balmenor
Sent: 2010.09.20 02:20
To: The Mittani,

Greetings Sir,

Black Core Alliance has reached a critical point in its development in terms of over-population and lack of strategic systems. We do our best to be as loyal as possible to the Deklien Coaliton in all ways, and work hard to maintain a strong presence in foriegn / domestic pvp.

To keep BCA stable, and growing we are in need of a few systems. The systems I have in mind that would greatly help BCA is E-FICO and 3QE. These systems are joined to BCA and would be the greatest asset to our alliance if acquired. We would be able to place jump bridges to 3QE which would allow us to cut-off any incoming hostile traffic into our triangle.

The issue of over-population has been a problem with BCA for a while, but not until recently has it become a urgent issue. We cannot grow without the aid of Goonswarm Federation and ask for support in our time of need. We have never asked for anything, and I will assure you that BCA will always be loyal to Deklein, because this is our home and we love it here.

Those two systems are the most critical portions that BCA needs. The topic of acquiring E3 / Lek are purely defensive to aid the Deklien Community with faster BCA response time and mobility. Of course all BCA jump bridges are availabel for use by any Deklien / NC member free of charge.

Also: BCA fully upgrades all of their systems with cyno jammers, etc. except for C7y, so capitals have a way to getting into BCA sov.

We would glady work around any logistical issue from Goonswarm Federation even if that means placing more jump bridges at your convience.

Nonetheless, BCA is trying to become a greater asset to the NC and the DC,
we've just reached our limits sadly. Thank you for your time, I appreciate everything you can do. Have a good day sir! o7

Respectfully
Numenor Balmenor
Executor of Black Core Alliance
CEO of Frontier Explorations Inc.


-------

Re: bca proposal
From: The Mittani
Sent: 2010.09.20 21:21
To: Numenor Balmenor,

I've consulted with Xttz. The reason we can't give you sov in the two systems you requested is that they have a significant money moon population (double R64s in each) and we need the beacons in those systems for both tower management and capital defense. That's strategic stuff and thus non-negotiable.

However, what I can do is extend BCA's rights into those systems and install any system upgrades you might want there. I can also grant you E3 or LEK, take your pick which you want. For upgrade installation it's easy to contact Xttz or any goonswarm diplomat to get in touch with our Logi types. We're happy to help your alliance get 'breathing room', but the fact is that you don't actually need the sov in those two systems to have that breathing room - you need rights to plex, upgrades, anoms, etc. That we can give you, happily.



Apparently this generous offer wasn't generous enough, to the point that he would be willing to sabotage our collective efforts against Ev0ke. v0v

Dr Cheeto
Minmatar
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2010.09.23 15:02:00 - [15]
 

via Mittens:
He claims to his directors that we are 'never giving BCA space ever', despite me having just given him rights to 2 systems + a bridge:
Quote:
Bad News...
From: Numenor Balmenor
Sent: 2010.09.21 10:41
To: Fadedlurk, SKTLANDFILL, Townsaver80,

Hey Guys,

Well, it looks like my political endeavours have failed. We are not getting any more systems in Deklien ever again it seems. We have the ability to take E3 because it is realitively useless on the moon market. Here is The Mittani's response to my BCA proposal for E-FICO - 3QE.

*snip*

I am currently talking to Morus Mihi and Mostly Harmless about aquring new space. We will hopefully be acquiring more space where we can put a station. I will then split BCA forces most likely to each region. Goonswarm Federation will not be giving us more land in the future I can see, if they cannot sacrifice 2 systems that are very vital for us, then don't imagine others.

Well guys, there's the rump. BCA needs to make a decision soon on what to do. I do not want to be that alliance that is here becuase we live off of another's scraps.

Please send me your responses, it will give me something to think about, I can't believe all BCA has done for them to reject such an easy thing to make us happy, but it is EVE. long live BCA

Best,
Numenor Balmenor

Digital Emperor
Amarr
Cryptonym Sleepers
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2010.09.23 15:05:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: Digital Emperor on 23/09/2010 15:09:11

BCA is being ******ed. And has no value to Goon and/or TEST when they say "We will not help defend deklein" if we dont get those systems.

In all fairness. goons gave a good proposal to them, but they refused and acted with the quote above.

bye O/


EDIT:

[WANT TO RENT] I have a few nice BCA Systems for rent. Convo me.

illy velo
Gallente
Production N Destruction INC.
Posted - 2010.09.23 15:26:00 - [17]
 

This. Blows. I hope the member corps, loyal to the NC, that had no part in this political mess will be allowed to evacuate safely and soon.

Shiranui Uwibami
Amarr
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2010.09.23 16:06:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: illy velo
This. Blows. I hope the member corps, loyal to the NC, that had no part in this political mess will be allowed to evacuate safely and soon.



This was stated repeatedly, things will get sorted. Diplo's are standing by the batphones to receive your calls now!

Joking aside, after goons "screwed over" BCA they offered all of BCA to stay save for Numenor's corp. SO EVIL RITE?

Dr Cheeto
Minmatar
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2010.09.23 16:07:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: Dr Cheeto on 23/09/2010 16:08:58
Edited by: Dr Cheeto on 23/09/2010 16:08:19
Originally by: illy velo
This. Blows. I hope the member corps, loyal to the NC, that had no part in this political mess will be allowed to evacuate safely and soon.



From Vile Rat:

Quote:
...Most of BCA are friends and wish to remain so, they will be granted the opportunity to continue to fight by our side to the best of our ability to accommodate this. I expect most will move to OWN or TNT and we will give our full encouragement and support in this.

Frontier Explorations Inc., Numenorís corp, will not be granted this courtesy and their assets will be locked in station until we are certain they will be unable to disturb our otherwise benevolent and peaceful station handover.

laks2
Minmatar
Ants
Posted - 2010.09.23 16:28:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: laks2 on 23/09/2010 16:30:03
did anybody expect anything different?

own and tnt should start packing their assets imo

the rzr-mm combo and their new goon buddies dont need the smaller entities atm to defend their turf. no atack in sight for the forseable future. so the nc heavyweights clean some space for themself. if they want you out they will find or construct an incident to get you out without looking to greedy.

rzr-mm and gooncombo have NO interest in the smaller alliances in the north getting powerful. they dominate the area completely and want to keep it that way. you should remember that every smaller entity in the north can be replaced within days by another alliance thats willing to lick the rzr and mm arses. you helped defend their space in the last war now u can go.




Kuar Z'thain
Caldari
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.09.23 16:34:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: laks2
Edited by: laks2 on 23/09/2010 16:30:03
did anybody expect anything different?

own and tnt should start packing their assets imo

the rzr-mm combo and their new goon buddies dont need the smaller entities atm to defend their turf. no atack in sight for the forseable future. so the nc heavyweights clean some space for themself. if they want you out they will find or construct an incident to get you out without looking to greedy.

rzr-mm and gooncombo have NO interest in the smaller alliances in the north getting powerful. they dominate the area completely and want to keep it that way. you should remember that every smaller entity in the north can be replaced within days by another alliance thats willing to lick the rzr and mm arses. you helped defend their space in the last war now u can go.


Send me a couple ounces of whatever you're smoking.

I'm out.

Kephael
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.09.23 16:49:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: illy velo
This. Blows. I hope the member corps, loyal to the NC, that had no part in this political mess will be allowed to evacuate safely and soon.


Can I buy your stuff?

Vile rat
Amarr
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.09.23 17:20:00 - [23]
 

It took this long for a CAOD thread to be posted? Come on guys.

As stated individual member corps in BCA need to contact me or any of our diplos ASAP. Don't panic, don't firesale your stuff, just relax and we'll work this out.

Unless you're in Numenor's corp in which case I'd suggest you jump over to another corp sooner than later.

If you are in fact Numenor I'd suggest you take up your status with the NC leadership but I'm pretty sure your status is "Refugee" right now so good luck with that.

SavageBastard
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.09.23 17:31:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: garfield26
because Goons want all of Dek... nothing else is the reason in my opinion. the BS what they say is just cover.



Now here's a man who knows his space politics. TEST you are next!

PipingHotCookies
Gallente
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2010.09.23 17:40:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: SavageBastard
Originally by: garfield26
because Goons want all of Dek... nothing else is the reason in my opinion. the BS what they say is just cover.



Now here's a man who knows his space politics. TEST you are next!


TEST is the only thing standing between you and the Guristas menace. It would be foolish to interrupt our great works in that campaign.

Kuar Z'thain
Caldari
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.09.23 17:56:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: PipingHotCookies
Originally by: SavageBastard
Originally by: garfield26
because Goons want all of Dek... nothing else is the reason in my opinion. the BS what they say is just cover.



Now here's a man who knows his space politics. TEST you are next!


TEST is the only thing standing between you and the Guristas menace. It would be foolish to interrupt our great works in that campaign.

This man speaks the truth!

UVPhoenix2
Gallente
Rim Collection RC
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2010.09.23 18:03:00 - [27]
 

Unreasonable

Artemis97
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2010.09.23 18:06:00 - [28]
 

Contact me for renting opportunities.

Crias Taylor
Gallente
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.09.23 18:16:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: illy velo
This. Blows. I hope the member corps, loyal to the NC, that had no part in this political mess will be allowed to evacuate safely and soon.



There is only one true screwed Corp in BCA that will never get their **** and you're not in it. Don't dock or undock till you talk to our diplomats (say diplomat in title and listed as such). Hopefully this mostly works out for most BCA cause they were pretty good.

Vile rat
Amarr
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.09.23 18:41:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: garfield26
because Goons want all of Dek... nothing else is the reason in my opinion. the BS what they say is just cover.


What a bizarre statement. Deklein already belongs to GSF and TEST. Everybody else there is a tenant. We don't need to take all of Dek, we already own it. Once one of our tenants decided they didn't want to deal with us anymore the path forward was crystal clear.

Wait Numenor didn't tell you guys that you owned the space outright did he? If he did that then he's a bigger scam artist than I thought and we might have a place for him after all.


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