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Gailion Jut
Caldari
Carbon Credit Hogs
Posted - 2010.09.17 21:48:00 - [1]
 

[Proposal]
Blueprint & Blueprint Copy Icon Changes

The current icons in use for blueprints could use a few tweaks and updates. I find it time consuming and a bit frustrating to have to open each and every blueprint to see if it is a BPO, a BPC or to see what its ME and PE levels are. I know that you can open up the Manufacturing & Industry window and get some of this information but you cant click and choose the blueprints from there and then drag and drop them into a cargo hold, hanger or can. Having this information displayed at the station hanger level would be a useful addition. I find that even if I try to make sure that I have grabbed a BPO to transport to my POS for research, it is not uncommon to discover that somewhere in that bunch of blueprints I grabbed a copy instead.
My proposal is as follows. Please feel free to add constructive remarks to this:

BPOs:
A non researched BPO icon would not change from its current appearance. Thus quickly identifying it as a basic, non researched BPO.
BPCs:
A BPCs icon would have some visible identifier indicating that it isnt a BPO but a BPC. Something like a different colored frame around the icon or a different colored background. Or maybe a clearly visible letter C in the upper lefthand corner of the icon. But some easily identifiable indicator showing that it isnt a BPO.
ME & PE levels:
An additional feature would be in the lower right and left corners of BPOs a ME and PE counter showing the current levels of research that has been completed on that particular blueprint.

So. Whatdaya think?

Darveses
Fantastulousification Inc.
Posted - 2010.09.18 10:01:00 - [2]
 

Good idea, quick draft for how copies could look like:
(note: "quick", didnt have much time :P)

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As for ME/PE levels on the icon, I'm afraid for the numbers to be readable, the corners would need to be too big.

Alternate suggestion would be to add sort by ME/PE/# of copies left in the hangar-columns - shouldnt be too much work as a) CCP is already working on adding columns for metalevel and all that stuff and b) the system is already in place for the blueprint selection/manufacturing window.

Venkul Mul
Gallente
Posted - 2010.09.18 10:07:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Venkul Mul on 18/09/2010 17:07:25

Features and ideas discussion thread -> Commonly proposed ideas -> post 5, link to -> Makes BPOs and BPCs distinguishable -> why it can be done without redoing the whole database

Originally by: Amarr Leroy
Originally by: Darveses

As for ME/PE levels on the icon, I'm afraid for the numbers to be readable, the corners would need to be too big.


Displaying me/pe on the icon would require a database call for each bp each time it's displayed. That would kill the database.

BUT: Supporting differentiation between BPO/BPC



Even the difference between BPC and BPO will kill the database, read the linked thread.

Amarr Leroy
Posted - 2010.09.18 15:23:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Darveses

As for ME/PE levels on the icon, I'm afraid for the numbers to be readable, the corners would need to be too big.


Displaying me/pe on the icon would require a database call for each bp each time it's displayed. That would kill the database.

BUT: Supporting differentiation between BPO/BPC

MNagy
Posted - 2010.09.20 00:05:00 - [5]
 

I found an issue when the bpo is in a container and you "info" it from a different system - you dont get to see the pe/me on the bpo. It shows it as if its a basic blueprint.

Anyone have this happen ot them?

ChrisIsherwood
Posted - 2010.09.20 02:25:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Venkul Mul

Displaying me/pe on the icon would require a database call for each bp each time it's displayed. That would kill the database.

BUT: Supporting differentiation between BPO/BPC



Even the difference between BPC and BPO will kill the database, read the linked thread.




But a fairly common response to this objection is add Drag & Drop to the S&I dialog. I.e., there is already a dialog box that lists these in a grid. It already has a "copy yes/no" column; i.e. no addition db lookup required; the EvE client has already looked all that up before the grid is displayed. You have a nice list of your BPO/BPCs; you could now select and drag some to containers, hangars and cargo holds rather than doing a show info on hundreds of items. Not the most elegant of solutions, but far more functional than what is shipping now.

As an aside, I can not understand how an employee could have signed off on the existing system as suitable for shipping.

Venkul Mul
Gallente
Posted - 2010.09.20 06:40:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: ChrisIsherwood
Originally by: Venkul Mul

Displaying me/pe on the icon would require a database call for each bp each time it's displayed. That would kill the database.

BUT: Supporting differentiation between BPO/BPC



Even the difference between BPC and BPO will kill the database, read the linked thread.




But a fairly common response to this objection is add Drag & Drop to the S&I dialog. I.e., there is already a dialog box that lists these in a grid. It already has a "copy yes/no" column; i.e. no addition db lookup required; the EvE client has already looked all that up before the grid is displayed. You have a nice list of your BPO/BPCs; you could now select and drag some to containers, hangars and cargo holds rather than doing a show info on hundreds of items. Not the most elegant of solutions, but far more functional than what is shipping now.

As an aside, I can not understand how an employee could have signed off on the existing system as suitable for shipping.



But that is not the proposal you are supporting (bolded for reference).

Laxyr
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2010.09.20 10:45:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Laxyr on 20/09/2010 10:46:18
Supported

However, I don't think it's gonna happen. It has been proposed a couple of times in the past years. CCPs standpoint always was that, with the new database layout, a differentiation between BPOs and BPCs was no longer possible. Back then we simply wanted the "old" view of Purple/Blue and even that was said to be impossible for reasons concerning the database.

I don't recall the precise explanation for it, see for yourself: BPO/BPC color

Regards, Lax

Theel Maas
The Praxis Initiative
Majesta Empire
Posted - 2010.09.20 22:31:00 - [9]
 

i don't know about more info, but changing the icon would be good.


 

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