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Gravemind GER
Caldari
Fnord Works
The Initiative.
Posted - 2010.09.17 19:17:00 - [1]
 

http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=797

The New (Ninja)Looter of the Carebears? Very Happy

Discuss.

Lance Fighter
Amarr
Posted - 2010.09.17 19:32:00 - [2]
 

not really enough cpu to fit combat probe and useful fits..

Liang Nuren
Posted - 2010.09.17 19:34:00 - [3]
 

I was thinking it'd be better as a wormhole ship. :)

-Liang

Joe SMASH
You Got A Purty Mouth
Posted - 2010.09.17 19:40:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Gravemind GER
http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=797

The New (Ninja)Looter of the Carebears? Very Happy

Discuss.


Actually, this is perfect ANTI-ninja salvager/looter ship. Look at the insane tractor range. Since ninjas cannot tractor your wrecks, that bonus is worthless to them. However if you have a dedicated salvager pilot who follows you in missions, then that guy can clean up without moving on most missions. Fully skilled to ORE Industrial V, you should get 60km out of tractors, then faster cycling salvagers means your salvage pilot will pop a wreck faster.

If anything, this is a direct response to all the whining about ninjas.

That said... I love the Primae hull and I cannot wait to fly this.

Awesome job CCP. Very Happy

omgfreemoniez
Posted - 2010.09.17 19:44:00 - [5]
 

A carebear ship, how wonderful.


Stick Cult
Posted - 2010.09.17 19:51:00 - [6]
 

Let the trolling commence.

(Actually, this is really cool..)

Corozan Aspinall
Perkone
Posted - 2010.09.17 19:51:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Corozan Aspinall on 18/09/2010 08:07:13

Yeah I am not too keen on those bonuses. Seem a bit ott.

So now Joe Carebear can have his 2nd account salvage alt follow him in his missions and scoop up all the salvage while he afk's the objectives? Yawn.




Hari Markkus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2010.09.17 20:03:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: omgfreemoniez
A carebear ship, how wonderful.

omgiagreewithomgfreemoniez.

Any chance of a new combat ship? Or four? A speedy Caldari boat would be my preference. But anything that has more turret and missile hardpoints than the The Noctis would be cool.

Not Happy.

Lance Fighter
Amarr
Posted - 2010.09.17 20:04:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Hari Markkus
Originally by: omgfreemoniez
A carebear ship, how wonderful.

omgiagreewithomgfreemoniez.

Any chance of a new combat ship? Or four? A speedy Caldari boat would be my preference. But anything that has more turret and missile hardpoints than the The Noctis would be cool.

Not Happy.


keep in mind the design your own ship contest.... im fairly certain that will be a combat ship Laughing

Alara IonStorm
Caldari
Posted - 2010.09.17 20:05:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Stick Cult
Let the trolling commence.

(Actually, this is really cool..)

Hey Sticks were you been?


Stick Cult
Posted - 2010.09.17 20:07:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Alara IonStorm
Originally by: Stick Cult
Let the trolling commence.

(Actually, this is really cool..)

Hey Sticks were you been?

Oh ya know, around...

with your sister...

Gravemind GER
Caldari
Fnord Works
The Initiative.
Posted - 2010.09.17 20:09:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Joe SMASH
Originally by: Gravemind GER
http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=797

The New (Ninja)Looter of the Carebears? Very Happy

Discuss.


Actually, this is perfect ANTI-ninja salvager/looter ship. Look at the insane tractor range. Since ninjas cannot tractor your wrecks, that bonus is worthless to them. However if you have a dedicated salvager pilot who follows you in missions, then that guy can clean up without moving on most missions. Fully skilled to ORE Industrial V, you should get 60km out of tractors, then faster cycling salvagers means your salvage pilot will pop a wreck faster.

If anything, this is a direct response to all the whining about ninjas.

That said... I love the Primae hull and I cannot wait to fly this.

Awesome job CCP. Very Happy


there were whine threads about people who ever wanted this kind of shiptype now they get it.

Corozan Aspinall
Perkone
Posted - 2010.09.17 20:12:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Gravemind GER
Originally by: Joe SMASH
Originally by: Gravemind GER
http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=797

The New (Ninja)Looter of the Carebears? Very Happy

Discuss.


Actually, this is perfect ANTI-ninja salvager/looter ship. Look at the insane tractor range. Since ninjas cannot tractor your wrecks, that bonus is worthless to them. However if you have a dedicated salvager pilot who follows you in missions, then that guy can clean up without moving on most missions. Fully skilled to ORE Industrial V, you should get 60km out of tractors, then faster cycling salvagers means your salvage pilot will pop a wreck faster.

If anything, this is a direct response to all the whining about ninjas.

That said... I love the Primae hull and I cannot wait to fly this.

Awesome job CCP. Very Happy


there were whine threads about people who ever wanted this kind of shiptype now they get it.


As long as the Ninjas can use them against the bears wrecks before he can .. its all good. Very Happy

Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
Posted - 2010.09.17 20:12:00 - [14]
 

I ate Veldspare for dinner. Thank you ORE.

Gravemind GER
Caldari
Fnord Works
The Initiative.
Posted - 2010.09.17 20:13:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Corozan Aspinall
Originally by: Gravemind GER
Originally by: Joe SMASH
Originally by: Gravemind GER
http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=797

The New (Ninja)Looter of the Carebears? Very Happy

Discuss.


Actually, this is perfect ANTI-ninja salvager/looter ship. Look at the insane tractor range. Since ninjas cannot tractor your wrecks, that bonus is worthless to them. However if you have a dedicated salvager pilot who follows you in missions, then that guy can clean up without moving on most missions. Fully skilled to ORE Industrial V, you should get 60km out of tractors, then faster cycling salvagers means your salvage pilot will pop a wreck faster.

If anything, this is a direct response to all the whining about ninjas.

That said... I love the Primae hull and I cannot wait to fly this.

Awesome job CCP. Very Happy


there were whine threads about people who ever wanted this kind of shiptype now they get it.


As long as the Ninjas can use them against the bears wrecks before he can .. its all good. Very Happy


solo you cant ninja the bears wrecks, but in a fleet you can with a cov op and the noctisYARRRR!!

Stick Cult
Posted - 2010.09.17 20:14:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Corozan Aspinall
As long as the Ninjas can use them against the bears wrecks before he can .. its all good. Very Happy

They won't. Tractor bonuses will be useless, has 300 CPU, and only goes 150-ish m/s. If you're ninja-ing, you want something faster, and that can fit combat probes better.

Lance Fighter
Amarr
Posted - 2010.09.17 20:18:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Stick Cult
Originally by: Corozan Aspinall
As long as the Ninjas can use them against the bears wrecks before he can .. its all good. Very Happy

They won't. Tractor bonuses will be useless, has 300 CPU, and only goes 150-ish m/s. If you're ninja-ing, you want something faster, and that can fit combat probes better.

wow. Back to the first reply already Laughing how quickly this thread moves

Corozan Aspinall
Perkone
Posted - 2010.09.17 20:21:00 - [18]
 

Edited by: Corozan Aspinall on 17/09/2010 20:57:54
Originally by: Gravemind GER


As long as the Ninjas can use them against the bears wrecks before he can .. its all good. Very Happy


solo you cant ninja the bears wrecks, but in a fleet you can with a cov op and the noctisYARRRR!!


Yup. Did some thinking after my third beer and it occured to me you are right there. Apologies CCP! Fan Boi recanting!

In fact it could be cool using them in this way AND suiciding the bear's one in mission before warping in your own to fleet corp/mate. Or just suicide the bear's one in a thrasher for terribad karma! Given they are going to cost 100m+ and, if you wait until he's filled it up for you: Win! Arrr! YARRRR!!

omgfreemoniez
Posted - 2010.09.17 20:23:00 - [19]
 

WTF is up with that inertia modifier? That thing will align like a Dramiel.

Alara IonStorm
Caldari
Posted - 2010.09.17 20:31:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: Alara IonStorm on 17/09/2010 20:32:06
Originally by: Stick Cult

Oh ya know, around...

with your sister...

My sister is twelve, so federal prison!

Edit: How is the food there!

Stick Cult
Posted - 2010.09.17 20:41:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Alara IonStorm
Edited by: Alara IonStorm on 17/09/2010 20:32:06
Originally by: Stick Cult

Oh ya know, around...

with your sister...

My sister is twelve, so federal prison!

Edit: How is the food there!


Now you have your answer to where I was.... Laughing
It was actually good food... Just don't drop the soap..

Rexthor Hammerfists
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2010.09.17 20:41:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Alara IonStorm
Edited by: Alara IonStorm on 17/09/2010 20:32:06
Originally by: Stick Cult

Oh ya know, around...

with your sister...

My sister is twelve, so federal prison!

Edit: How is the food there!



Why do you ask, considering joining him?

Neat little ship with a proper role etc.
maybe a good opportunity to look at the number of t1 frigs and cruisers and also some bcs and t2 ships that either have no role or canot fulfill it due to weak attributes ;)

Riho
Gallente
Drop of Blood
Posted - 2010.09.17 20:45:00 - [23]
 

been waiting for when they decide to make this kind of ship :)

even tho i very rare do missions... this thing will be nice for those that loot and salvage

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2010.09.17 20:46:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: omgfreemoniez
WTF is up with that inertia modifier? That thing will align like a Dramiel.
Take your Primae for a spin and see how it handles…

…and consider what it will end up like once you load it down with expanders and all the other heavy bits and pieces to make it hold all the crap you want to suck up.

Osiris Heart
Posted - 2010.09.17 21:00:00 - [25]
 

Does anybody know what the size of this ship is? I mean will this ship allowed to enter into all mission pockets or it going to be restricted for it as it is restricted for BC, BS and bigger ships? Question

yani dumyat
Minmatar
Pixie Cats
Posted - 2010.09.17 21:01:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Corozan Aspinall

Given they are going to cost 200m+ and, if you wait until he's filled it up for you: Win! Arrr! YARRRR!!


Blueprint was going to be about 290 mill, same as a battlecruiser. The ship itself will end up about 30 mill after a brief period of silly introduction prices.

Still plenty of tears to be harvested though ^_^

Corozan Aspinall
Perkone
Posted - 2010.09.17 21:07:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: yani dumyat
Originally by: Corozan Aspinall

Given they are going to cost 200m+ and, if you wait until he's filled it up for you: Win! Arrr! YARRRR!!


Blueprint was going to be about 290 mill, same as a battlecruiser. The ship itself will end up about 30 mill after a brief period of silly introduction prices.

Still plenty of tears to be harvested though ^_^


Hehe. I edited that to 100m half an hour ago! Sniped! Shocked

Yeah, for sure! Still well worth ganking .. then bringing in your buddy in his to clean up the mess. YARRRR!!

Creiter
Posted - 2010.09.17 21:22:00 - [28]
 

Several things come to mind

1. Awesome!
2. Whoa! (price)
3. ???
4. Crying or Very sad

Not going to be worth flying for awhile once its released. Its probably going to retail for as much as a hulk or more by looking at the price of that BPO (which means alot of salvaging to pay it off Shocked), probably be released sometime around when Hulkageddon "Barrel Shoot" IV rolls around at the end of the year, and predictablty of the EVE community to gank easy targets could make me some money if I could bet on it and not get cheated Laughing. Hurricane is still cheaper for the alt at 1/10th the price and with a marauder I can already round up most wrecks into a tight ball, easy to fly out and pick up the 50km stragglers with the alt.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2010.09.17 21:32:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Creiter
Its probably going to retail for as much as a hulk or more by looking at the price of that BPO
The BPO costs as much as a battlecruiser (no surprise there, since that's the size of the Primae hull)
Quote:
Hurricane is still cheaper for the alt at 1/10th the price
More along the lines of 2/3ds the price — the build requirements for the thing is about 50% higher than a BC.

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2010.09.17 21:40:00 - [30]
 

Edited by: Akita T on 17/09/2010 21:42:27
Originally by: Creiter
2. Whoa! (price)

Excuse me ? What "whoa" ?
At current mineral prices, it's going to sell for under 50 mil in a week after release or thereabouts, and I'd be surprised if it will sell for more than 35 mil after a couple of months. Price will probably settle at barely over 30 mil, or even less than that if mineral prices keep dropping like expected.


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