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Brolly
Caldari
5ER3NITY INC
Posted - 2010.09.17 19:56:00 - [31]
 

Absolutely fantastic, wasn't expecting a salvaging ship so soon.

Most appreciated Very Happy

Gun Hog
Caldari
APEX ARDENT COALITION
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2010.09.17 19:57:00 - [32]
 

Now THAT is one sexy salvaging beast!! I will have to get my industrial gear ready to make one!! :D

Helena Troy
Posted - 2010.09.17 19:59:00 - [33]
 

Hmm why is it exactly that Many new ships are ORE ships that only get seeded in far away places that 95% of the EVE population will find it hard to reach?

Does CCP have a special love for the alliance that controls this area?

Monistat Seven
Caldari
Posted - 2010.09.17 20:01:00 - [34]
 

At least 1 or 2 drones!!

There are some pesky rats that ruin a salvage op. Just a piddle of defense should not be too much, to be offensive.

Pretty please???!?

Latrodanes
Independent Combat Support Services
Posted - 2010.09.17 20:01:00 - [35]
 

Awesome news. Very Happy

So that was what CCP Manifest was hinting at GENCON when we were discussing the sadness of the Primae. It is such a beautiful model and has a completely useless role in-game. Noctis will definitely fulfill its role well, given these stats. I am very glad to see the Primae design become more than just a hangar queen/suicide target.

Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
Posted - 2010.09.17 20:04:00 - [36]
 

Edited by: Chribba on 17/09/2010 20:09:20
w o w !

edit/and also... ORE Industrial... finally. /bows

I came. Did you?

Marlenus
Ironfleet Towing And Salvage
Posted - 2010.09.17 20:04:00 - [37]
 

At last, at last, at long long long-awaited last!


Daenna Chrysi
Amarr
Omega Foundry Unit
Shadows Of Betrayal
Posted - 2010.09.17 20:05:00 - [38]
 

awesome...

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2010.09.17 20:06:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Helena Troy
…Many new ships are ORE ships that only get seeded in far away places…
Ehm… such as?

Which was the last one before this that only god seeded "far away"?

zcar300
Gallente
Posted - 2010.09.17 20:07:00 - [40]
 

Very cool. I was a upset that the primae was so useless. It's a very nice looking ship. I'm a little surprised there isn't a bonus to salvager effectiveness. Although I guess you can fit it with plenty of rigs...

Lolion Reglo
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2010.09.17 20:09:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: Veliria
To qoute someone famous..."Hell, it's about time!"


damn it i was gonna use that quote...lol. still THANK YOU CCP!!!!!! now i can dustball my destroyer in favor of a ship i can salvage better in.

zandayus
Posted - 2010.09.17 20:14:00 - [42]
 

nice addition to the EVE universe with a unique mission.now can we get some unique design new type space stations.let your players come up with the unique basic designs.

bcs1
Minmatar
River-Rats in space
Posted - 2010.09.17 20:15:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: Aelana Anais
Edited by: Aelana Anais on 17/09/2010 19:24:02
WOO +1 CCP!

Originally by: Nila Talluc
Just can't wait for this! This is exactly what we mission runners need to both save time and money (if we look away from the price of the BPO).


Actually 390m seems a little on the low end compared to covetors and orca.


Agreed, def worth the isks and surely something us mission runners could use, looks nice too, I loved the look of the Primae when it can out, and seeing the Noctis on that Hull was pleasantly surprising...

Now to just figure out when the next expansion is to be released and to wipe the drool off the corner of my mouth...

:D

Props for this CCP...

Bill

Cool

bigpaxi
Posted - 2010.09.17 20:16:00 - [44]
 

Very nice I think we will enjoy it lets hope it can go into the mission sites since there are ship restrictions. Would like to see this ship in the deltole sites as well to pull more wrecks back to stations instead of being left lay around. With this ship it should help clean up the game a lot more these upcoming days. Hope you give it more to power and cpu to run more equipment on them. Thanks again for the dedicated salvager been waiting I use a hurricane with 4 salvager 2 and 4 small trac with t2salvage tackle rigs. When is this being patched in I would like a date and time of this so we can prepare for where to be at for pickup.

Kinta Huron
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2010.09.17 20:18:00 - [45]
 

Awesome! Love this ship, thanks CCP!

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2010.09.17 20:18:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: Aelana Anais
Actually 390m seems a little on the low end compared to covetors and orca.
It's as much as the other battlecruisers — add the import tax from Outer Ring onto that, and you'll probably get a price tag that is more to your liking… Wink

Monkey M3n
GK inc.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.09.17 20:20:00 - [47]
 

more pvp ships less of this garbage please,

KTHX BI

FT Diomedes
Gallente
Factio Paucorum
Posted - 2010.09.17 20:23:00 - [48]
 

Looks great!

CCP Greyscale

Posted - 2010.09.17 20:24:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: Sgt Blade
Very awesome, although if these BPO's are only in Outer Ring then I expect those stations to be camped like hell for a few days after release Laughing


Yeah, I'm kinda assuming that anyone with 390m to spend will be able to work out for themselves that OR will be gank city on day 1 Wink

Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Zilabeth Vomarr
I usually carry my salvage ship (hurricane) around in the Orca, which is our squadron's mobile base of operations. I hope the Noctis will be more BC sized and still fit in an Orca for transport to mission sites.
Since it's based on the Primae hull, I'll assume it will be BC-sized — 270k m³ assembled.


Confirming this, forgot this wasn't in the fitting info. It's BC-like in many respects (including volume), but it's treated as an Industrial by the code, same as the Primae (overview group, acceleration gate restrictions etc).

Originally by: zcar300
Very cool. I was a upset that the primae was so useless. It's a very nice looking ship. I'm a little surprised there isn't a bonus to salvager effectiveness. Although I guess you can fit it with plenty of rigs...


Cycle time reduction for salvaging gets you more attempts per minute, so it should work out as an overall effectiveness boost.

Gogela
Freeport Exploration
Posted - 2010.09.17 20:29:00 - [50]
 

This was getting kicked around in the "Features and Ideas" section for some time... we are thrilled. :) http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1370118
YARRRR!!

Tonto Auri
Vhero' Multipurpose Corp
Posted - 2010.09.17 20:32:00 - [51]
 

Reduce all numbers ten times and it MAY BE became useful.
60 mil build cost for a damned salvager - my destroyer overthrow it by a huge margin.
There's just no field for such unproportionally overexpensive othervise-useless boat.
It should cost no more than a Covetor to build.

Skarfase
Posted - 2010.09.17 20:33:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: Tonto Auri
Reduce all numbers ten times and it MAY BE became useful.
60 mil build cost for a damned salvager - my destroyer overthrow it by a huge margin.
There's just no field for such unproportionally overexpensive otherwise-useless boat.
It should cost no more than a Covetor to build.

Honestly, I don't have that much of a problem with this. It'll easily cut my salvaging time into a quarter of what it was before, probably much less, and it'll pay for itself in no time at all.

Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
Posted - 2010.09.17 20:35:00 - [53]
 

Originally by: Tonto Auri
Reduce all numbers ten times and it MAY BE became useful.
60 mil build cost for a damned salvager - my destroyer overthrow it by a huge margin.
There's just no field for such unproportionally overexpensive othervise-useless boat.
It should cost no more than a Covetor to build.


considering many people consider the hurricane to be the best salvage ship it really isn't that much more expensive.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2010.09.17 20:39:00 - [54]
 

Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
Originally by: Tonto Auri
Reduce all numbers ten times and it MAY BE became useful.
60 mil build cost for a damned salvager - my destroyer overthrow it by a huge margin.
There's just no field for such unproportionally overexpensive othervise-useless boat.
It should cost no more than a Covetor to build.
considering many people consider the hurricane to be the best salvage ship it really isn't that much more expensive.
…in fact, considering how it's become increasingly common for people to use T3 ships to get to similar bonuses, it's downright dirt cheap.

Iguanoid
Caldari
No.Mercy
Merciless.
Posted - 2010.09.17 20:41:00 - [55]
 

OMFG this is the best thing ever that i could imagine being implemented into eve. Its game changing and saving all in one.

But seriously, 2 pages of carebear erections say its true, but im left wondering if there isnt something that needs to be fixed instead of just throwing the hi sec players a cookie ugh

Desya Dak'ann
Caldari
No Ducks Allowed
Posted - 2010.09.17 20:43:00 - [56]
 

Well thank god for that, my Caty doesnt do it fast enough, i hope it comes out soon and possibly more infor on where i can get this ORE Industrial skill book Very Happy

Tonto Auri
Vhero' Multipurpose Corp
Posted - 2010.09.17 20:44:00 - [57]
 

Edited by: Tonto Auri on 17/09/2010 20:48:16
Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
considering many people consider the hurricane to be the best salvage ship it really isn't that much more expensive.


Comparing backwardly, you are?

Let's get it straight:
Hurricane: Excelent gunship, both PvE and PvP, fair Gas Harvester, decent salvager. Wins six points. (2 for each intended role, and one for each unintended)
This... crap: Salvager. Only. Very good one, however. wins four points. (Exceptional bonuses, no doubt)
(27 mil / 6) * 4 = 18 mil
I was right, 18 mil is an averaged Covetor price currently.

P.S.
My suggestion: reduce build cost to 10-15 mil (about exactly 5 times), reduce speed/range bonus to 40%/per. Retain 5% duration bonus.
Or add turrets to it and give some Gas Harvesting love. But then it lack normal tank to sustain low/nullsec encounters.

Shandir
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2010.09.17 20:45:00 - [58]
 

Edited by: Shandir on 17/09/2010 20:48:24
60m is a steal for what this boat does.
Your math above is flawed, a ship should be valued for the sum of all the roles it can do *at once*. Just because it can do four things doesn't mean I should pay four times as much for each of the four ships I'm no doubt going to buy to fill those roles.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2010.09.17 20:50:00 - [59]
 

Originally by: Tonto Auri
Comparing backwardly, you are?
Not really. If you buy a BC for salvaging duty, chances are that you're buying it only for salvaging duty — tackles don't mix well with something you'd want to add in for combat purposes…

It's a special-purpose battlecruiser — being as cheap to build as a normal BC is entirely reasonable due to its limitations.

Tonto Auri
Vhero' Multipurpose Corp
Posted - 2010.09.17 20:53:00 - [60]
 

Edited by: Tonto Auri on 17/09/2010 20:54:57
Originally by: Shandir
60m is a steal for what this boat does.


Nothing my destroyer can't do 2 times slower for 1/150 of that cost. compare 2 and 150 now.

Quote:
Your math above is flawed

No. I'm comparing potential of one hull to potential of another hull.
Not comparing certain fittings (where, yes, you should compare what it does).

Originally by: Tippia
It's a special-purpose battlecruiser — being as cheap to build as a normal BC is entirely reasonable due to its limitations.


Aww, sorry my noobness, which of the non-special-purpose battlecruisers cost 60mil to build?
I'm seeing only those around 20-25mil.


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