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Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
Posted - 2010.09.13 10:57:00 - [31]
 

Edited by: Rodj Blake on 13/09/2010 10:57:33
Originally by: Corozan Aspinall


Also minimum per unit pricing will effect you! You will see noticeable increases in all but spirits.



With the sorts of figures being quouted (ie 50p per unit) it will only affect cheap booze in supermarkets.

Pub prices won't be affected, and neither will the prices of any non-sale half-decent beer or wine in the supermarket.

Jin Nib
Resplendent Knives
Posted - 2010.09.13 11:01:00 - [32]
 

"Canada has some of the highest rates of taxes on cigarettes and alcohol in the world."

And it really, really, really, sucks.Crying or Very sad People don't smoke or drink any less because of it, they just pay more. Nip it in the bud while you can.


Corozan Aspinall
Perkone
Posted - 2010.09.13 11:11:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: Rodj Blake
Edited by: Rodj Blake on 13/09/2010 10:57:33
Originally by: Corozan Aspinall


Also minimum per unit pricing will effect you! You will see noticeable increases in all but spirits.



With the sorts of figures being quouted (ie 50p per unit) it will only affect cheap booze in supermarkets.

Pub prices won't be affected, and neither will the prices of any non-sale half-decent beer or wine in the supermarket.


Wine will suffer. Being unit dense and relatively cheap. I regularly buy a couple of bottles of San Giovese a week and they cost 3.99. Under the proposal that would rise to a min. 5. Thats a direct tax on me for being a casual drinker of 'cheap' alcohol. Justifed as Nanny Knows Best? Or just an excuse to tax me more?

Whatever way you look at it, minimum pricing is anti competative, anti capitalistic, anti choice and ultimately is just another stealth tax. Also its a precedent I am unfomfortable with - what's next? Fat tax? Scissors tax?

Cheap booze will in some cases almost tripple in price too. Its not hard to imagine what that will mean to those who currently spend their benefits on booze. They'll spend their benefits and then come take some of your stuff to make up the difference.

Xrak
Pat Sharp's Potato Rodeo
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2010.09.13 21:34:00 - [34]
 

Originally by: Corozan Aspinall
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Edited by: Rodj Blake on 13/09/2010 10:57:33
Originally by: Corozan Aspinall


Also minimum per unit pricing will effect you! You will see noticeable increases in all but spirits.



With the sorts of figures being quouted (ie 50p per unit) it will only affect cheap booze in supermarkets.

Pub prices won't be affected, and neither will the prices of any non-sale half-decent beer or wine in the supermarket.


Wine will suffer. Being unit dense and relatively cheap. I regularly buy a couple of bottles of San Giovese a week and they cost 3.99. Under the proposal that would rise to a min. 5. Thats a direct tax on me for being a casual drinker of 'cheap' alcohol. Justifed as Nanny Knows Best? Or just an excuse to tax me more?

Whatever way you look at it, minimum pricing is anti competative, anti capitalistic, anti choice and ultimately is just another stealth tax. Also its a precedent I am unfomfortable with - what's next? Fat tax? Scissors tax?

Cheap booze will in some cases almost tripple in price too. Its not hard to imagine what that will mean to those who currently spend their benefits on booze. They'll spend their benefits and then come take some of your stuff to make up the difference.


You read the Daily Mail don't you?

Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente
Sigma Special Tactics Group
Posted - 2010.09.14 06:12:00 - [35]
 

Just got word from a friend about a Plum Tree - left alone meaning organic - that is not being harvested by the owner. This means enough for at least 5 gallons of Plum Wine.

(Takes about 20 lbs).





Fumitsugu
Posted - 2010.09.14 06:37:00 - [36]
 

Edited by: Fumitsugu on 14/09/2010 06:38:02
I think the most unjustifiable is inheritance tax, mostly because the capital contained in that which is passed on has already been taxed via income tax.

Oh, and the Brits have never had a gun culture so the idea of "the man" coming for "our guns" is ludicrous. The most recent legislation, if I remember correctly, was the banning of handguns and an amnesty (where you could give them up to the police, no questions asked) after the Dunblane massacre. Because, let's face it, handguns are strictly anti-personnel firearms. Plenty of outdoorsy types have shotguns for wildfowling etc.

I also make my own fruit brandy for personal use, but I'm not sure what the law's stance on that is.

Corozan Aspinall
Perkone
Posted - 2010.09.14 08:36:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: Xrak
Originally by: Corozan Aspinall
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Edited by: Rodj Blake on 13/09/2010 10:57:33
Originally by: Corozan Aspinall


Also minimum per unit pricing will effect you! You will see noticeable increases in all but spirits.



With the sorts of figures being quouted (ie 50p per unit) it will only affect cheap booze in supermarkets.

Pub prices won't be affected, and neither will the prices of any non-sale half-decent beer or wine in the supermarket.


Wine will suffer. Being unit dense and relatively cheap. I regularly buy a couple of bottles of San Giovese a week and they cost 3.99. Under the proposal that would rise to a min. 5. Thats a direct tax on me for being a casual drinker of 'cheap' alcohol. Justifed as Nanny Knows Best? Or just an excuse to tax me more?

Whatever way you look at it, minimum pricing is anti competative, anti capitalistic, anti choice and ultimately is just another stealth tax. Also its a precedent I am unfomfortable with - what's next? Fat tax? Scissors tax?

Cheap booze will in some cases almost tripple in price too. Its not hard to imagine what that will mean to those who currently spend their benefits on booze. They'll spend their benefits and then come take some of your stuff to make up the difference.


You read the Daily Mail don't you?


Xrak! No u! Laughing


Ultim8Evil
Ministry Of Eternal Disorder
Posted - 2010.09.14 12:09:00 - [38]
 

As a pub landlord in RL (yes, really), I can categorically say that the duty on beer does indeed suck massive balls.

But it isn't this that is killing the pub industry.

It's the Supermarkets.

I am all in favour of a tax vs alcoholic content as this wouldn't affect pubs or brewerys; only the likes of Tesco who are allowed to sell alcohol for cost price (or just below) in order to get people through their doors.

Anti-social behavior and health problems are not caused by pubs, they're caused by kids/idiots/alcoholics loading up on the cheapest central-heating-for-tramps crap they can get their hands on and getting off their heads.


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