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Yeay Fritg
Caldari
Confrerie de Kaedri
Cluster Of Rebirth
Posted - 2010.09.08 15:45:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Yeay Fritg on 10/09/2010 12:22:20
Edited by: Yeay Fritg on 10/09/2010 10:38:57
Edited by: Yeay Fritg on 10/09/2010 10:37:26
Edited by: Yeay Fritg on 10/09/2010 10:36:06

I will update Pros/cons based on feedback.

CCP with Dominion ask us to pay for the system upgrades why not applying Tyrannis roleplay logic to Dominion and remove Isk for Sov?

Feed the TCU and InfrastructureHub with Tyrannis Fuel rather then paying Isk ?
It can add up to 2-3 more items to fuel per system.

Ideas:
Crazy KSK - Introduce specific Fuel for TCU and other Sov items.
Arklan1 - Large bay to ensure a long play time between refueling this critical assets for Sov.
Darveses - POS refueling is annoying and can be reviewed (There is an other proposal on this point).

Pros :
- Sov will really means that you can afford one by organization not only by having fixed pve incomes. Can Concord really can trust us when we kill a npc in 0.0 ? In a region where concord don't change our security status when we podkill? Sounds strange in a rpg way.
- Crazy KSK : Add more fun and alternative way to conquer a system


Cons:
- CCP will sell less GTC.
- CCP will need to code it and it will cost them time in bug fixing
- Mass of people impacted but no more than with the Tyrannis expansion
- Fuel the Sov Blocker too ?
- Bagehi : Fueling can be a nightmare for large organization.


Bagehi
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises
Posted - 2010.09.08 15:55:00 - [2]
 

No. DIAF. Fueling dozens of systems would be a nightmare. I would rather do faction warfare than be faced with something like that.

Crazy KSK
Posted - 2010.09.08 19:08:00 - [3]
 

YES! bring the fueling back BUT! introduce fuel cells that are made from ice products and from planetary ones

1. having to fuel tcu and Ihub would make it much harder for even big alliances to hold large amounts of systems
2. it would make it possible isolate a system preventing it from getting refueled and thus the tcu going off line
also harassing a alliance by attacking its transports could lead to the alliance giving up on some systems
3. it would lead to alliances having chains of system rather than some spread out single ones


and all that would lead to less systems occupied and better chances for small groups to get into 0.0

to make it fair though I would say Ihub and tcu can both hold a week worth of fuel which should be one whole freighter of fuel cells for one system with hub and tcu

Yeay Fritg
Caldari
Confrerie de Kaedri
Cluster Of Rebirth
Posted - 2010.09.09 12:26:00 - [4]
 

Updated based on comments.

Arklan1
Dunedain Rangers
Posted - 2010.09.09 17:57:00 - [5]
 

hmm. potentially interesting, as long as they dont need refuling too often. cautiously supported.

wr3cks
Reliables Inc
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2010.09.10 04:11:00 - [6]
 

@ the OP: How many towers do you currently fuel? I'm guessing 0-1. There are a lot of problems with this game, but a lack of "chores" to do isn't one of them.

This is a terrible idea, not to mention an almost totally incoherent post.

Yeay Fritg
Caldari
Confrerie de Kaedri
Cluster Of Rebirth
Posted - 2010.09.10 10:38:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: wr3cks



Sorry,

I don't understand your points.

Not talking about POS but about TCU and Hub.

Can you please develop ?

Yeay

Darveses
Fantastulousification Inc.
Posted - 2010.09.10 10:46:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Yeay Fritg
Originally by: wr3cks



Sorry,

I don't understand your points.

Not talking about POS but about TCU and Hub.

Can you please develop ?

Yeay


Fueling POSes is a drag. Fueling sov structures would be another one. So no thanks.

Dierdra Vaal
Caldari
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2010.09.10 13:25:00 - [9]
 

this is a bad idea - the whole point of simply paying for sov upkeep instead of fueling POSes (the old system) was because everyone hates having to fuel all those structures.

Yeay Fritg
Caldari
Confrerie de Kaedri
Cluster Of Rebirth
Posted - 2010.09.10 15:47:00 - [10]
 

For my point of view paying Sov Upkeep to a system force (Concord) not present in region is irrelevant.

No fuel is not a problem for me, it can be a good roleplay way too.

But paying for Sov in 0.0 to an not present 'authority' is not.


 

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